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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 12:26:24 2020 Finally some truth.JTA/Times of Israel
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 12:56:30 2020, in response to US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 12:26:24 2020. Why are there even Arabs in East Jerusalem? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 12:58:38 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 12:56:30 2020. That's like asking why there are masjids on what is called the "Temple Mount" (actual location of the Temple is immediately south of there, on the Ophel). Never mind "East Jerusalem" containing all of old Jerusalem, including the City of David. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 13:06:46 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 12:58:38 2020. FALSE! The Temple was on what is commonly called the "Temple Mount." Which is why it's called the "Temple Mount." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 14:20:53 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 13:06:46 2020. False, eh? Then why is the Ophel always cited as the location in any antiquity, never mind Scripture? And why is the Gihon Spring still in the center of the Ophel, as it was in the center of the Temple?(Not expecting a logical answer to that one.) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 14:25:19 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 14:20:53 2020. Then why is the Ophel always cited as the location in any antiquity, never mind Scripture?Historical fiction doesn't count. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 14:48:42 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 14:25:19 2020. LOL, knew I wouldn't get a logical answer. Never mind an antisemitic one, which I got. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 15:01:05 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 14:48:42 2020. You claim “scripture” as factual and you have the nerve to talk about logic?Nothing antisemitic about wanting to know facts. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 15:15:42 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 15:01:05 2020. Since when was anything from the Torah fictional? It's all been proven, even just about all of the towns have been found.Regardless, you are talking about the entire platform of Harold's Temple. He is correct about the actual physical place. That physical spot, which Abraham saw through to Jacob...well are you calling people and planet Earth fiction now? Also, Notice no x-tain will argue about why their churches in their so-called "holy" cities are all mosks now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 15:34:06 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 15:15:42 2020. Since when was anything from the Torah fictional? It's all been proven, even just about all of the towns have been found.Most of it is fictional. The fact that real towns are used is meaningless. Lots of fiction takes place in real places: The fact that Spider-Man is from Queens doesn't mean that either Spider-Man is real or Queens is fictional. The real place is widely believed to be where the Dome of the Rock is now. Of course, if you have some real, non-scriptural source as to the exact location of the Holy of Holies I'll pay attention. Unfortunately it's not possible to do archaeology there because God-forbid* the "Palestinians" might have to come up with new lies to explain away the thousands of years of Jewish presence. *Not saying this ironically. That physical spot, which Abraham saw through to Jacob...well are you calling people and planet Earth fiction now? I am calling Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob fictional. It was obviously written to explain the importance of the existing Temple site, in case some people might have wanted to rebuild elsewhere (or in Shchem like a Samaritan). |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 16:14:17 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 15:34:06 2020. "f you have some real, non-scriptural source as to the exact location of the Holy of Holies I'll pay attention"Ohh. I see, so you want a wikipedia version where soemone who wasn't there, thousands of years later, will tell you. You'd be prefect in Islam. As to all of your assertions: PROFF? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 16:46:58 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 16:14:17 2020. And your scripture gives you facts? Like the world was created in six days, the Earth was created before the sun and the stars?Maybe the people who were there should have left the exact latitude and longitude. But maybe their all knowing God was bad with directions. So you only believe that the Temple existed despite actual archaeological evidence for it because it's written in the Bible? LOL! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 16:57:57 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 16:46:58 2020. despite? It's on Google streetview and youtube! What are you, in the dark ages! Speaking of dark ages, give me proff of whatever creation story your faith gives you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 17:00:34 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 16:57:57 2020. What faith? I’m an atheist. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 17:36:48 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 17:00:34 2020. Atheism is a faith. That's how you get to whatever belief you have about the creation of the universe.Of course, had this been offline, you just ran in circles around the room screeching. That's the only comparasion to you running around and unable to hold onto the original topic at all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 18:19:09 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 17:36:48 2020. 1. No, it’s the absence of faith.2. What? This was natural thread drift as it was Olog-hai who brought up the lie that the Ophel was the site of the Temple. I actually looked up scripture and it turns out it was where the temple staff lived. So obvious NOT the Temple which was sacred and not to be profaned with living quarters. Now as for why I believe that, even though the only evidence is scripture, it may well be false, but it fits within the parts of the Bible that are objectively true. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 13 18:36:59 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 18:19:09 2020. I would consider agnosticism to be the absence of faith, and atheism to be faith in the precept that God does not exist. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 18:41:54 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 13 18:36:59 2020. Maybe, but I heard a good point against that theory of agnosticism being a true void. I didn't write it down though.In reality, there's no such thing as a void. How down and nihlistic are you not to take joy in anything or believe in anything, including yourself? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 19:04:04 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 13 18:36:59 2020. I don’t agree. Agnostic is an adjective and atheist is a noun. You’re describing a gnostic atheist. An agnostic atheist takes the lack of any god as the null hypothesis. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 19:05:28 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 18:41:54 2020. Because I’m not a small child who needs to believe in Santa Claus. Sometimes the world sucks. And other times it is so beautiful. The beauty of the natural world doesn’t need a deity. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 14 08:38:32 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 18:41:54 2020. Sad that the libs ruined this thread with hijacks. Guess they hate Israelis and love "Palestinians". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 14 08:40:15 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Mar 13 15:15:42 2020. Since when was anything from the Torah fictional? It's all been proven, even just about all of the towns have been foundYes; the bigger point is that continuing archaeological work is proving the Jews' claim to East Jerusalem. And the US State Department finally calls the Arabs what they are, rather what they are not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 14 11:29:13 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 14 08:38:32 2020. You ruined this thread by your impression of a “Palestinian,” lessening the Jewish claim on the Temple Mount. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Mar 14 18:12:19 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 14 11:29:13 2020. don't you have even a smidgen of any sense let alone common sense?you try to seem smart. you fail. and you definitly don't like jewish people. that's very clear. nor israel. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 14 22:18:59 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by ntrainride on Sat Mar 14 18:12:19 2020. Fecal matter is no substitute for brain matter, which explains your utter stupidity. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 15 15:57:25 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 13 19:05:28 2020. "The beauty of the natural world doesn’t need a deity.""Doesn't need" is a very interesting phrase. And I didn't have time to say in the post you are responding too, atheism is a belief, it is the faith in itself. So let's work backwards. Why does the world need you? Why doesn't the word need whatever a "deity" is? Why do you think a bunch of "jews" from Poland can write a book so accurately describing the cities in Israel so well, when they're not from there? If you were keeping up with your Bible studies, last weeks portion -towards the beginning - describes that if you don't wash your hands, you die. Jews live with the portion of the week, and I keep hearing about handwashing all the time. Seems pretty apt and accurate to me. But you're telling me its all wrong. "Sometimes the world sucks. And other times it is so beautiful. " False. It is always beautiful. "Because I’m not a small child who needs to believe in Santa Claus." You're not even near the wisest man that ever lived either. Humility can do you some good. That way you won't try to impress us with 1L legal studies like a girl at a bar. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 15 15:58:51 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 14 22:18:59 2020. And yet at the end of the day, "East" Jerusalem probalby had more synagogues than the western end.Just because some occupation force destroyed them all in '67, doesn't validate the Eurotrash narrative. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 15 16:11:16 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 15 15:57:25 2020. What is meant by need is that explanations for natural phenomena work perfectly well without a superfluous deity whose existence has to be shoehorned in. Like believing that evolution was “guided” by a god. Why would it need to be guided? It works perfectly fine without guidance.Huh? The Jews are native to Israel. The Bible was written in Israel. The Bible is perfectly fine for life lessons, it’s largely useless as history. I am a wise man; it is the name of my species. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 15 16:12:51 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 15 15:58:51 2020. There were also plenty of Jews living in Judea and Samaria before 1948-49 when they were expelled. What is your point? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 15 16:18:05 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 15 15:58:51 2020. The problem that I have with you is that you (and Olog-hai) seem to believe that the only reason that Jews are the people of Israel is because the Bible says so. The problem with that is that the Bible is significantly ahistorical* and your God does not exist. I, on the other hand, accept reality and reality shows that Jews are the people of Israel and always have been, without resort to any fantasy.*There are some factual events and places depicted in the Bible, such as the existence of the ancient Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and the existence of the Jerusalem Temple, etc. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 12:42:13 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 15 16:18:05 2020. The problem I have with people like you (and spider-pig) is that you think just because you mention how you feel, you think it is fact. Yet, no one cares about your feelings.And you haven't been able to answer a question anyone has posted to you about politics, news, hygene, or history for several months now. Yet you act like you have valid opinions when you can't even give an opinion. Stick to giving us a mediocre 1L discourse. I'll pawn you there too like I used to. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 12:50:34 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 12:42:13 2020. This isn't about feelings, this is about facts. Just because you believe in the tooth fairy doesn't make it real.And the Holy of Holies at the center of the Temple complex was located where the Dome of the Rock stands today, and not anywhere else. Why do you think the squatters built it there? You've never pwned me on anything. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 13:05:34 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 12:50:34 2020. "You've never pwned me on anything."LMAO (literally). Those would be the threads you abandon. Or like here, evade. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 13:08:31 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 13:05:34 2020. Changing the subject?You’re still ignoring Olog-hai’s pernicious lie about the temple site. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 13:10:09 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 13:08:31 2020. says the guy who said the world sucks and is ugly. In this thread. Your subject. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 16 13:49:24 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 13:08:31 2020. Can you explain Olog's lie about the Temple and even a possible motivation? I don't know enough to follow the argument.Just curious. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 14:03:26 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 16 13:49:24 2020. He claimed that the Temple was located on the Ophel, a plateau along the south edge of the temple site. This is offensive because it claims that the Temple was other than where it was always known to have been. I don't know where he gets it but it's probably some fundamentalist revisionism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 14:04:57 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 13:10:09 2020. Says the guy who claims the world can't work without a creator deity. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 16 14:15:15 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 14:03:26 2020. OK, thanks.I thought you might perhaps have known the reason why he would make this claim, but there is no real reason why you should have. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 15:31:28 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 14:04:57 2020. The tooth fairy also said don't operate wet markets or else you'll get a deadly disease and have to stay inside with anxiety and start 100's of losing fights on the internets.lol pwn3d!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 16 15:55:00 2020, in response to Re: US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 16 15:31:28 2020. It's cute that you believe that the tooth fairy said that and not the human that wrote that scripture. What are you, 8? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 22 11:57:45 2020, in response to US State Department will no longer call Arabs in East Jerusalem “‘Palestinian’ residents”, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 13 12:26:24 2020. bump |
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