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Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 16:03:57 2020


Says administration can deny grant money


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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 16:40:05 2020, in response to Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 16:03:57 2020.

Good. Illegal aliens are owed nothing and deserve nothing.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 16:49:03 2020, in response to Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 16:03:57 2020.

Good.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 16:49:32 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 16:40:05 2020.

Then why do you vote democrat?

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 16:49:32 2020.

The United States is a representative democracy. Everyone should vote like a democrat. Would you prefer he voted (like an) authoritarian?





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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dan on Wed Feb 26 16:59:47 2020, in response to Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 16:03:57 2020.

Good news but 'The latest decision conflicts with rulings from other appeals courts across the country concerning sanctuary policies, indicating a Supreme Court review is ultimately likely.' I expect the SCOTUS to go along with the 2nd Circuit. Adios muchachos!

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 17:16:12 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020.

LOLA1M!

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 17:16:52 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020.

The Rationalizer in one of his less rational moments

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 17:22:03 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 17:16:12 2020.

Do you support CMM's language misuse?


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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 17:43:28 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020.

First asshole, your name is not Spider-Pig, second I asked him NOT YOU why he voted democrat, as in the democrat party.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 18:26:03 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 17:22:03 2020.

We both know what he meant. Why do you have to be such a priss?

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 18:28:15 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 18:26:03 2020.

It's what he does

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 18:40:18 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 18:26:03 2020.

Because use of "democrat" as an adjective is a deliberate insult. If he's going to insult me, I'm going to tell him his grammar stinks.



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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 18:46:32 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 17:43:28 2020.

You are correct on two points.
1) it's the democrat party. Based on past performance the democrats are certainly not democratic.

2) AlM is certainly an asshole.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 18:51:39 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 17:43:28 2020.

If you insult us Democrats, i will point out the crappiness of your grammar.



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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 18:57:52 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 18:46:32 2020.



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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 18:58:38 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 18:51:39 2020.

My grammar is no worse than Salaam's

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 26 19:00:53 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 18:40:18 2020.

You’d have to be pretty sensitive to consider that an insult. It’s used more commonly than the alternative.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:01:18 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 18:58:38 2020.

I agree. I think yours is considerably better than his, actually.




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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 19:01:27 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 18:26:03 2020.

iawtlp

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 19:01:35 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 18:28:15 2020.

iawtlp

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:02:05 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 26 19:00:53 2020.

It's a deliberately designed insult. You can Google the history of it. Someone here posted the details of how it evolved.



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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 19:02:09 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:01:18 2020.

LOL.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 26 19:07:15 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:02:05 2020.

Perhaps. Even more often it’s common vernacular.

On the news they used to put (R) and (D) next to politician names. The “D” stood for Democrat afaik.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:10:27 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 26 19:07:15 2020.

Yes, in that case Democrat is a noun, and that is correct.

It's using Democrat as an adjective that is the deliberate insult.


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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 19:25:23 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:10:27 2020.

Wikipedia - LOL

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 19:34:43 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 16:49:32 2020.

I don’t. I vote for Democrats. I do so because I agree with them more than I agree with Republic candidates.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 26 20:24:47 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 19:34:43 2020.

Well you do realize it's the democrats that love these illegals.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 26 20:39:41 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:01:18 2020.

RATS!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 26 20:46:25 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 18:40:18 2020.

OMG, I've heard it all!

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 26 21:02:28 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020.

Stop.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 26 21:03:45 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 26 20:46:25 2020.

Ridiculousness

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Feb 26 21:34:45 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 16:59:34 2020.

You're getting a lot of hate here, but I appreciated the pun.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Feb 26 21:50:09 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 19:34:43 2020.

I am somewhat curious as to what current (R) positions are keeping you from their side.

My remaining policy objections with (R)s are:
-they go too hard on personal responsibility and cutting safety nets... yes "teach a man to fish" is better than "give a man a fish", but at least help the man get a fishing rod, lest he vote to socialize fisheries
-rolling back environmental policies haphazardly
-the war on drugs
-the cutback on legal immigration
The Libertarian influence on the party seems to have dulled that last point.

That said, the two main pillars of the left right now are either cut back on economic freedom via socialism, and assraping the 2nd amendment. Those objections are too large and important for me to lodge a protest vote. If the eventual candidate doesn't back off that rhetoric on both fronts, as far as I'm concerned #KAG.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 21:55:59 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 26 19:10:27 2020.

Man up, Mary.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 21:57:02 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 18:58:38 2020.

My man...that's not exactly difficult to do!

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 26 22:25:46 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 21:57:02 2020.

And I do it without auto correct.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:38:16 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 26 20:24:47 2020.

You win some you lose some.

It used to be that labor Democrats were against immigration because they take jobs from poor Americans, but then the woke SJWs infested the liberal mainstream.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:45:04 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Feb 26 21:50:09 2020.

1. This one
2. Also this
3. And this
4. Not this. I am for skilled immigrants and maybe some unskilled but I can pretty much take it or leave it.

As for my own points:
1. Their judicial appointments.
2. Abortion and related matters
3. The influence of the even jellicles/religious right.
4. Urban/rural. The Republicans are the party of the country, not the cities.
5. Healthcare reform
6. Crime/criminal justice reform.
7. Voting.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 22:48:52 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 21:55:59 2020.

Well said

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 22:50:32 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:38:16 2020.

Hypocrisy though. Democrats want higher minimum wage but support liberal immigration which helps keep wages lower

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:53:47 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 22:48:52 2020.

Figures

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:54:21 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Train Dude on Wed Feb 26 22:50:32 2020.

Because they’re torn between supporting the working man, and idiots.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 26 23:05:08 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 26 18:58:38 2020.

YOU ARE AVERAGE

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 26 23:05:21 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 26 21:57:02 2020.

WHO CARES

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 26 23:05:34 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Feb 26 22:25:46 2020.

I DONT

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Feb 27 02:23:16 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 26 22:45:04 2020.

(1). ✔️ That's a reflection of the platform, makes sense.
(2). They've retreated to "no taxpayer funded abortions" and "no 3rd trimester abortions" rather than none at all. I don't think Roe v Wade is in imminent danger.
(3). That influence is almost gone at the federal level. The stance has moved from moral authoritarianism to more libertarian, and I've been increasingly seeing more moral authoritarianism from the left. If it were anyone other than Trump this shift would not have happened, because his younger supporters are irreligious. The party is more like NY Republican than bible belt Republican.
(4). Got anything more specific?
(5). ✔️ I agree with you here, I'll add that to my list.
(6). Trump pushed through the First Step act against the wishes of half his base and it hasn't had any horrible side effects yet. The NYS Bail reform is a dumpster fire. I don't actually trust the Dems to do criminal justice reform right now, they're blinded by "enforcing laws is racist"... which is a pretty racist attitude to have.
(7). All I've seen is they want accurate voter rolls and voter ID, those aren't bad things. I haven't followed this aspect of their platform so If I'm missing something LMK, got any specifics?




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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 27 02:49:45 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Feb 27 02:23:16 2020.

2. But I support taxpayer funded abortions and I disagree that Roe is safe. Red states keep passing increasingly ridiculous abortion restrictions.
3. Which is probably temporary as long as libertine Trump is in office. But they still have influence. Look at his trans in the military ban, Pence, and the Indiana mafia’s control of HHS.
4. It’s a general thing. The party that gets rural votes will champion rural causes and the party that gets urban votes will champion urban causes.
6. That doesn’t mean that bail reform isn’t a worthy cause. NJ bail reform is not a dumpster fire.
7. Those are bad things. They are going through massive efforts to use all legal methods to make sure that as few people as possible can vote. Voter ID is a solution in search of a problem. So is purging voter rolls. Also gerrymandering, reducing voting hours, watering down prop 4 in Florida. It took the election of a Democratic Senate in NY to implement early voting, one day primaries, and unrestricted absentee ballots.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Feb 27 03:47:00 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 26 23:05:34 2020.

We know.

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Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Feb 27 04:24:38 2020, in response to Re: Court hands Trump win in sanctuary city fight, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Feb 26 23:05:08 2020.

You are below average.

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