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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 23:08:23 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 15 23:05:44 2019. And the lefties never criticize the Democrats. Even rationalize when it's blatantly wrong |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 16 01:48:40 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 23:08:23 2019. As Spider Pig would say: LOL! |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 03:43:54 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 15 18:26:11 2019. Is that bad? I didn't understand the phrase "B-roll for the VO/SOT" either, but the basics of what he was saying seem clear: someone made a mistake and played the wrong footage. There is no reason to think it was deliberate. It was a result of miscommunication, not of political bias. If you think otherwise, it just shows your own bias against the news media. As the saying goes, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Or by sloppiness. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 05:23:38 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 16 01:48:40 2019. Truth is truth |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 05:24:16 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 03:43:54 2019. Lol. And you know this how? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 06:51:59 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 23:06:49 2019. No, the essence of propaganda is that the story is false. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 06:53:21 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 22:30:34 2019. In this thread you are ignoring his horrible mistake and instead focusing on a single TV station's stupidity in reporting on his mistake. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 07:08:55 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 03:43:54 2019. And you know the opposite how? |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 16 07:38:24 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 19:04:46 2019. LOL! Disney is NOT “leftist media”. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 16 07:49:06 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 16 07:38:24 2019. Ol'Walt is spinning in his grave! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 08:58:43 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 06:51:59 2019. No, the fact is that ABC news tried to make the story worse by pouring a video accelerant on it. In the meantime, I don't recall this level of whining and sniveling when Obama pulled far more US troops out againstMilitary advice and led to the birth of ISIS. Why is the left so hypocritical? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 09:00:45 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 06:53:21 2019. Much as you ignored Obama's horrible mistake that bled to the founding of ISIS. Why are you so hypocritical? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 11:17:27 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 07:08:55 2019. Oops, that was supposed to be addressed to gp38/r42 chris. Anyway, the "rule" I quoted is known as "Hanlon's Razor". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 11:20:58 2019, in response to BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 15 15:52:01 2019. ABC News ✔ @ABC NEW: Citing threats, violence against journalists, Sen. Richard Blumenthal proposes bill making threatening or attacking "anyone doing fact gathering or news operations" a federal crime. https://abcn.ws/2K0BLjq *** ABC eh? And Libs call talking "attacking" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:40:33 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 05:23:38 2019. Except it's not true. Hence the "LOL!" |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:43:28 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 08:58:43 2019. It's TV news, so of course they wanted video. You haven't shown that they purposely used fake video instead of mistakenly using incorrect video. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:45:56 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Oct 16 11:17:27 2019. In any event, since it's impossible to prove a negative, the burden is on the person making the assertion to prove their assertion. The right wingers have failed to show that the video was purposefully used when it was known to be something else. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 11:51:41 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:45:56 2019. PEREZ: “Now I’ll tell you this. Joe Biden has a problem. Because his son was trading in his name. It looks bad, it smells bad. It’s not illegal. Nothing is illegal about it. I mean, you’re benefiting from your father’s name, you’re trading under his name.”UNKNOWN MALE: “Everybody does that though.” PEREZ: “Then that’s the problem. How do you go and say that ‘Donald Trump is the person, get him out of here’ and convict him when your son is doing the same sh*t?” |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 11:55:33 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 11:51:41 2019. Agreed, the fact that Donald Trump Jr. is using his family connections to make money is not a cause for impeaching Donald Trump Sr.Of course, no one has claimed that it is. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 12:13:37 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 09:00:45 2019. Whataboutism. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 12:24:27 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 12:13:37 2019. Also false. I didn't ignore Obama's serious mistake. I was concerned about it at the time.Also not whataboutism because it's not directly comparable to what Obama did. Obama implemented a slowdown of the withdrawal schedule originally put into place by President Bush, and the withdrawal was undertaken after detailed consultation with senior military officials (among whom, of course, there was no unanimous agreement on any single course). In contrast, Trump did this on a whim without consulting anyone, and without any planning to minimize adverse effects. As an aside, maybe the Iranians will tone down their anti-Trump rhetoric now that he's proving himself to be their faithful friend. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 12:32:37 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 12:24:27 2019. You're all over the place. did you just travel through a wormhole?How do you feel about Biden's use of physical threats against his opponents now? Do you feel that threats have a place in politics and public speech? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 12:58:07 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 12:24:27 2019. Also not whataboutism because it's not directly comparable to what Obama did.It is whataboutism BECAUSE it's not directly comparable to what Obama did. And I suspected that you were concerned with Obama's actions just the same, but I can't speak for you unless I'm reiterating something you've already posted. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 13:02:48 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 12:58:07 2019. No it's not whataboutism because I'm comparing reactions of the office e drone to Trump compared that the reactions of the office drone when Obama took similar actions. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:49:28 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 16 08:58:43 2019. Exactly, but the leftists can't accept that fact |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:50:30 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:43:28 2019. Lol!! You're as bad as Al. No it's not acceptable to have fave footage just to have footage (to make it look bad) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:55:45 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 16 07:38:24 2019. Lol. Yeah okay. It's not 1960s Walt anymore. Is that your new explanation now? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:57:27 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:45:56 2019. Lol!! Ah, so it's that angle now for the fake footage and spin. (Yes, spin).I'm sure if it was foxnews, you wouldn't have come up with all these excuses and rationalizations |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 14:01:13 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 11:40:33 2019. Nice try, but it is.Fake video for shock and awe to push an angle |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 14:03:53 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:57:27 2019. +54 |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Oct 16 14:16:54 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 15 19:50:14 2019. I am with you on most everything re. Trump. ThatI cannot discuss Trump without feeling ill, so there's that... |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:46:48 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:50:30 2019. S-P never said that what they did was acceptable. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:48:28 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 14:01:13 2019. So the death of many of our ally's soldiers is not deemed important by viewers expect if accompanied by fake video? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 15:23:42 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:48:28 2019. Stop with the Bullshit.You were silent for years and years during the Obamacaust and we've never heard a peep outta you. And now all of a sudden you're going to feign some concern over what you call a "ally" now. Where were you when Pelosi used to take junkets to Turkey which was followed by mass graves of Kurds? Take your fake tears elsewhere. If anything, this was a brilliant move by Trump so we can finally put those sick bags of garbage back in their place. This regime has been bullying America for way too long with its war crimes "president". |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Oct 16 15:24:42 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 12:58:07 2019. bullshitdon't be such an idiot. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:03:48 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:46:48 2019. IKR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:05:17 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 13:57:27 2019. Bullshit. I just wouldn't have had to because you and the other Trump supporters would have beat me to it. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:18:02 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:05:17 2019. Heh. Actually, last time I pointed out a really stupid (and unimportant) mistake made by Fox News, all the right wingers ignored it, except Olog, who claimed that Fox was actually correct. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:21:03 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:46:48 2019. The fact is the DID use fake video. There is no defending or rationalizing thus |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:22:33 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:18:02 2019. Ah, so you mean people were not 5rying to rationalize and defend it? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:23:02 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:21:03 2019. Which they did inadvertently. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:23:54 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 14:48:28 2019. Didn't say any of that. Still doesn't make it acceptable to use fake video to make it look worse.and actually like it or not the Turks are actually our allies not the other ones. They are a member of NATO. So nice try again |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:25:41 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:21:03 2019. Nobody here has defended it. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:27:30 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:23:54 2019. You are completely correct that it is not acceptable, ever, to use fake video. We have been agreeing with you all along on that.You are wrong in claiming that the Kurds are not considered our allies. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:38:09 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:23:02 2019. Yes "of course". |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:41:20 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:38:09 2019. So you get to assert, with no supporting evidence whatsoever, that this fake video was deliberately aired.Meanwhile, if anyone demonstrates, with ample supporting evidence, why Trump might be a criminal, you just say LOL, TDS. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:45:42 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 16:23:54 2019. You mean the NATO that Trump constantly decries? Strange that now he would feel all obligated under the North Atlantic Treaty. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 17:05:33 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 16 16:23:02 2019. Yes "of course". |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 16 17:06:17 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 16:25:41 2019. Lol |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 17 07:47:57 2019, in response to Re: BUSTED: ABC's 'Slaughter in Syria’ Footage Came From Kentucky Gun Range, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 16 12:24:27 2019. I put the blame for ISIS squarely on the backs of the Iraqi and Syrian govts. The Iraqis gutted their trained military and filled it with corrupt officers, which otherwise would have easily routed ISIL at that time. The Syrians prioritized getting rid of any pro-democracy movements than in getting rid of the vastly more brutal ISIS. |
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