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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 12:50:59 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:26:52 2019.

Sorry to break it to you, but all "English" measurements are defined based on metric units. One inch is defined as 0.0254 m.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 12:53:19 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:27:46 2019.

I love the French Calendar. But it would have been awful always celebrating a birthday on the same day of the week.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 12:54:00 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 12:30:13 2019.

No, you don't. It depends on the bank, though.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 13:06:40 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 12:54:00 2019.

Ignoring any ATM fee's, since I don't know if TD Bank or RBC in the US and Canada let you do it fee free and all,
No fee at all. So like, when I use a credit card at the walmart and I get charged those few cents for the exchange rate, the ATM isn't doing that?

Something is not jiving. Why does the bank rip you off at the teller, but not at the ATM?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 13:09:01 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 13:06:40 2019.

I have a checking account with Charles Schwab, and they don't charge for foreign transactions, and even reimburse foreign ATM fees.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 13:19:58 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 13:09:01 2019.

"checking account with Charles Schwab"

I'm going to be nicer to you now.

But I'm not kissing up to you on that demonic metric and gutting the Electoral College suggestion.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 13:27:38 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 13:19:58 2019.

WTF?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 14:00:29 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 13:06:40 2019.

I make sure I get the cash I need by going to my supermarket and using my debit card when shopping and ask for the cash back amount at the end of the transaction.No fees.
Sometimes, I get cash from the ready teller at my local bank, no fees.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 14:02:35 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 14:00:29 2019.

I get cash reimbursement for outside ATM use. This way I don't have to plan ahead to get cash, and can use a credit card for shopping.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 14:21:54 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 14:02:35 2019.

If I don't need cash when I supermarket shop, I use My Amtrak credit card, and accumulate points.I use my Amtrak MasterCard for everything. I have so many Amtrak points, I ride free!

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:13:50 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 14:21:54 2019.

Most small banks reimburse for ATM's now. They vary if it's infinite or just a few times per month. The community banks do this. I'm thinking of trying one of those out next (I've been bank hopping lately, and the only big bank so far that hasn't been a total disgrace has been Wells Fargo...).

Publix, and I'm assuming there must be another chain out there, has had their own ATM's forever with their own "network". Some banks subscribe to it, no fee. So you can use the ATM right outside the door instead of doing cash back.

Some other banks belong to Allpoint. Which is those tiny little ATM's you see at drug stores, and I guess bars. But considering that some ATM's let you get every demonination now from 1's through hundreds, and Wells Fargo does 20's and 50's, why would I want to degrade myself there.

I stopped doing the cash back at the supermarket. I'd check my bank statements and spend a few hours trying to figure out when I spend x dollars until I remembered it was a cash back transaction. Luckily, with the options I mentioned above, I don't lose any convenience at all.

Most banks suck so bad, may as well just find the one that has the best locations to you*. Then again, like I posted elsewhere, I got like a dozen in a 4 traffic light radius. That doesn't seem to be normal.

*I limit this to American banks. European, especially Spanish banks, need to be BDS'd out of the country.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:16:09 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 12:50:59 2019.

What does a Catalonian Inch equal?

Just 'cuz you can convert it, doesn't mean it's based there.

And when I say English, I mean spoken. You can go ask for 145 grams to the lady at the counter like she's even gonna listen to you anyway while I go grab my cup, or my pint, or my quart and just be done with it and out the door while you're still there measuring.
I may be better at numbers than names, but I wouldn't even go so far as to convert my speech to binaries next.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:25:22 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:16:09 2019.

No, it is literally based on that number.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:41:39 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:25:22 2019.

This reminds me of a complaint I have about wikipedia that is on steroids when it comes to forums. Something that would be a 400 page book gets destroyed and sucked down to one sentence oversimplification.

Got a book behind me that talks about the Catalonian Inch, I don't see it online. I guess that's why everyone votes democrat nowadays.
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I had a great article that I lost and still haven't been able to find. It was about how the poles and dimensions of earth are perfectly in sync with inches and feet....oh wait that's too complicated, you can only use inches...u know, metric simplification and all with it's one and only one measurement.

So, when a girl asks you your height, instead of just saying four-ten, do you say something like one-hun-dred-and-twen-ty-four cen-ti-met-ers, or do you do the one-point-twen-ty-four meters and force her to do the conversion herself?

U know, if Metric was so great, we would be using yards for our height here. Maybe you can start the trend. Should we say 1.61 yards to make you feel more homey? Or just 1 yard and 22 inches?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:46:19 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:41:39 2019.

I don't understand your point. The United States maintains formal definitions for various units. These are officially defined based on conversions to SI units, which are, in turn, based off of inviolable physical constants.

Are you 4'10"? Sucks to be you.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 16:30:58 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 15:46:19 2019.

Midgets are totally in dude.

We say inches, feet and yards. They have centimeters...then it goes to meters. None of the people in those countries seem to understand how you state your height. Lease they never do like they taught us in the states to simplify the conversion. So, since you've gotten rid of the useful "foot" in the Imperial unit, how do you state your height now. Are you in the camp of just saying something like 58 inches, or the whole 1.61 yards? Or will you get fancy and say one yard 22 inches which I've never seen done in the metric way?

Note, I've takin away the syllable dictation that shows how nerdy metric is, and how no democrat - urban or immigrant - will ever use it.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 16:41:42 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 16:30:58 2019.

I use feet and inches. If we switched over, I'd memorize my height in meters and go with that.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 26 18:20:07 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 15:16:09 2019.

Metrics caught on quickly at liquor stores. Used to be quarts, & pints & half pints. Now its liters & half liters. NOt a quart or pint to be found.

Listening AAA??

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 26 18:34:25 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Aug 25 18:44:51 2019.

So did I. They were quick, competent (as opposed to the overly aggressive with treatment orthopedist stateside that ruined my aunt's arm in the process) and there was no bill for any of it.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Aug 26 19:27:01 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 26 18:20:07 2019.

Correct, I just bought a bottle of booze, all metric My doctor told me to drink 2 liters of fluids /day, so I thought of the large soda bottle.I also did the English conversion, 67.62 oz.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 21:43:18 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 26 18:20:07 2019.

They explained why soda's converted back when I was in public school. But I'll never remember the lame reason. A liter is so close to a quart anyway, it's like .89 or even .87. Difference is too small for a guesstimation.

That's how I figured out that one-hun-dred and thir-ty cents (not a buck 37 as in English!) per li-ter is like $5/gal. To give a quick middle of the night example.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 21:45:32 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 16:41:42 2019.

Why? You're allowed to get rid of the feet now if you hate it so much. It's good to get into practice for the eventual change. Just pretend the yard is a meter and give your format correctly. Since metric doesn't have the shortcut that English Imperial units do.

Next topic of business.

Why do you hate saying $1.23? What makes 123 cents per liter superior as Metric does? Why does metric hate decimals and cents?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:14:22 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Aug 26 21:45:32 2019.

What?

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:54:21 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 26 18:34:25 2019.

Some poor Canadian shmuck wound up paying for it.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 07:43:36 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 26 22:14:22 2019.

You don't even know how they use (or misuse) metric overseas.

Next order of business.

Why are we using Liters in a gas tank? They used to talk about gasoline in units such as Cups and oil in terms of ounces. Now we use Gallons and quarts.
As our gas tanks get bigger, why are we shrinking the unit of measurement? How is that practical for everyday life?
We don't say 222 cents (sorry I got the cheapest gas in the country) per gallon.
So I suggest you convert now. Say 512 cents per gallon next time you go out, or 654 cents or whatever obscene prices you pay.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 07:48:51 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Aug 26 22:54:21 2019.

I don't know how their income taxes work up there, but considering I pay possibility the highest sales taxes in the country (food not exempted), the extra 3% was no shocker to me.
I doubt 3% is what pays for their antiquated medical care with full on wait lists and people dying in the streets.

So I can only image what a Canadian system (which every Canadian doctor says will fail soon) would cost in America. We have the extra costs of the massive amounts of graft and corruption. As my 10% isn't going to anything down here as is.

I can't wait until they start building hospitals solely on the basis of race and zip code. Which reminds me. New York is one of the last states that is holding up healthcare via an antiquated and failed "Certificate of Need" Law.

They opened up a half billion dollar hospital near me that I can see out the window. And a freestanding ER with helicopter pad. In NY that would not be allowed due to outdated crony laws.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 09:52:43 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 07:43:36 2019.

As our gas tanks get bigger, why are we shrinking the unit of measurement? How is that practical for everyday life?

Why should gas tanks get bigger? My next car will not have a gas tank at all and will run on 100% inorganic fuel.

The U.S. Dollar was the first decimalized currency. The US used to be at the vanguard of these things, and then tradition set in.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 11:23:39 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 09:52:43 2019.

In history, my gas tank and those on the Immigrants SUV's are much bigger than in the 30's.

Einstein says those who don't like to learn about the past (like culture, comedy, art, music) are the ultimate snobs.

Next question.

If I am driving down the highway, and I want to pull off 39 miles away, I always know to the minute when I will get there. I cannot do that with metric without a bunch of silly conversions I was promised I didn't have to do.



Therefore, I never get tired of #winning.

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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 27 11:29:46 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 09:52:43 2019.

Why should gas tanks get bigger?

Even for gasoline powered cars, tanks have gotten smaller. I once owned a car with a 20 gallon tank that I could drive 400 miles without refueling. I just rented a car last week, drove it 350 miles before refueling, and it was almost on empty. It took less than 10 gallons. So maybe 60% the tank size and the same range.

The U.S. Dollar was the first decimalized currency.

Bring back the farthing!


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Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Aug 27 11:34:57 2019, in response to Re: Fotos: Niagara Falls, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Aug 27 11:23:39 2019.

That assumes you're actually going 60 MPH and you expect to maintain an average of 60 MPH. How often does that happen?

Speed limits in North America are criminally low compared to Europe.

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