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Circles in the Sky

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 10:53:43 2019

I was sitting in my jumpseat facing aft waiting to begin my Business Class service, the so called Elegance in the Air. I got tired of staring directly into the bulkhead wall so I got to thinking about why the airplane never flies the shortest distance to the destination but instead goes in a curved line. You can clearly see it on the map in the back of the magazine. Even I knew in elementary school that a straight line is the shortest distance.between two points... and donít tell me it is because of the wind because it happens every flight. The pilots talk over my head and are of no help.

#pretendpilot
#330tojoin170orgreatertothemarkertower


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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by Dave on Sat Aug 24 13:03:32 2019, in response to Circles in the Sky, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 10:53:43 2019.

LOL! Nice description of the great circle route.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 24 13:52:28 2019, in response to Circles in the Sky, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 10:53:43 2019.

Map Projections

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 14:28:01 2019, in response to Circles in the Sky, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 10:53:43 2019.

I don't fly into JFK often so I don't know if this is normal but from Buffalo we turned south flying over the center of Manhattan and out over the Bay where we turned east. We continued east reaching Amityville before turning north over Republic Airport to Long island sound. Turned west until we turned south around North Shore Towers, along the Cross Island Pkwy and onto 22R, I'm guessing. Now that's one big circle.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 14:38:44 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 14:28:01 2019.

I donít fly...

Good call.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 14:53:51 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by cortelyounext on Sat Aug 24 14:38:44 2019.

Flying tomorrow from Republic to Atlantic City. 24 minutes and no 2 hour check in.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Aug 24 16:41:09 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 24 13:52:28 2019.

Interesting

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by Easy on Sat Aug 24 18:13:02 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 24 13:52:28 2019.

Perhaps somewhat but I think that the primary reason is to be able to show routes without overlaying the lines on the map. Anyone looking at an airline destination map can see this.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 24 18:31:58 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 14:28:01 2019.

I forget the site but I remember seeing the set routes used in NYC when the airports have certain runways in use for arrivals and others for departures. Your arrival route into 22R had to avoid LGA traffic (its departures and its arrivals and its arrivals' missed approach path) amongst other things. Deer Park is a common fix relevant to the route.

Just landed on 4R from a transatlantic. Came in over Providence, then the North Fork, diagonally crossed Long Island and ended up along the coast of New Jersey before finally turning around for the landing. It's dragging out the agony after such a long flight but that's the way it goes.

It would be cool to get a better view of the skyline after coming in from the sea but there's not much chance as transatlantic flights don't land at LGA, yet.

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by Dave on Sat Aug 24 19:09:14 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 24 18:31:58 2019.

https://flightaware.com/resources/airport/KJFK/procedures

https://www.airnav.com/airport/KJFK

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Re: Circles in the Sky

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Aug 24 19:35:56 2019, in response to Re: Circles in the Sky, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 24 18:31:58 2019.

Thanks for the info.

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