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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:15:57 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by FtgreeneG on Sun Apr 21 01:44:48 2019.

Exactly.

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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 02:29:31 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:15:23 2019.

Can do both. Thatís how politics works

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:33:16 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 02:29:31 2019.

Beating the dead horse doesn't make it come back to life. All this does is make the normies and the Centrists think that there is some sort of Witch Hunt going on

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 03:06:12 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:33:16 2019.

As opposed to the repeated Benghazi and e-mail hearings that resulted in ZERO indictments and helped Trump beat Clinton in 2016?

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 21 03:21:10 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Apr 20 17:43:04 2019.

What felony is Trump covering up?

According to papers filed in court by the Southern District, he directed the falsification of business records to cover up an illegal campaign contribution.





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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:30:50 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:33:16 2019.

normies

Alt-right much?

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 21 03:35:08 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 03:06:12 2019.

Non-parallel situation.

A lot of people who lean Democratic have principles and didn't want to elect someone they feared was a crook.



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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:46:26 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by FtgreeneG on Sun Apr 21 01:44:48 2019.

2020 should be less a traditional presidential election, and more a real referendum on Trump. The Democrats would do well to hit the GOP hard on Trump's indisputable failures, everything from multiple government shutdowns while his party controlled Congress, to his inability to do foreign affairs. On top of this, the Mueller report, damning as it is, should be grist for the Democrats' mill, allowing them to keep that issue in the media to Trump's detriment.

None of it will work, however, unless the Dems get a serious GOTV campaign together, with a real focus on places like Erie, PA or Madison, WI, where Trump gained enough votes to win the EC, because too many Democrats stayed home. Russians pretending to be Black hoteps or gay leaders telling people not to vote, can be overcome by a solid GOTV effort.

Side note: the Democrats know full well how to do this. When Obama was running in 2008, several friends of mine volunteered to join the campaign. The first thing Obama's people did was put them all on buses to Pennsylvania. They knew where the battleground would be. Just sayin'...

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 03:46:51 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 03:06:12 2019.

Clinton defeated herself. Anthony Weiner cost her the election when it comes down to it. Plus that guy getting her on film falling down getting into the car.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 03:49:10 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:30:50 2019.

It's too early for your stupid shit. The term normies has been around for years and it just stands for the normal people. The ones that have eyes and ears and know what's going on.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 03:49:56 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 21 03:21:10 2019.

Do you think they could ever prove it beyond the Reasonable Doubt? If so, go forward with it. If not, leave it alone and let it die.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:50:43 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 03:46:51 2019.

How Trump making fun of a disabled New York Times reporter on national television, wasn't the end of his campaign right there, remains a mystery to me to this day.

Moreover, that "grab 'em by the pussy" tape would have killed the political career of just about anyone else, yet Trump got away with it. 🤔🤔🤔

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 21 03:53:57 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 03:49:56 2019.

Do you think they could ever prove it beyond the Reasonable Doubt?

Yes. Two witnesses and written records.

But they aren't allowed to indict Trump, and the Senate won't convict him on those charges even with proof.

So it won't remove him from office. But it does demonstrate that he's a criminal. That's a valid point for the 2020 election.



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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:32:34 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:46:26 2019.

I'm laughing at the thought that you really believe that Russians pretending they were black leaders and gays telling people not to vote! LOL

You're missing the point. If people keep hopping on the Mueller report as grist for the mill, that's going to turn a lot of people off and it will make Trump look like a martyr.

That being said, it's already a done deal. Donald Trump will win again next year because all of those points that you mentioned in the first paragraph, are not really true, they are just your opinion. As long as the stock market does good, he will get the credit, deservingly or not.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:34:32 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:50:43 2019.

You have to realize that the tape was just locker room shit talkin. And plus it was made years and years before he was a politician. You have to take that into consideration.

When I first saw that I actually laughed out loud when Donald Trump imitated that guy! I'm like now THIS is motherfuker that's going to be entertaining as a president, and you know what? He hasn't let me down yet in that aspect!

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:35:38 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:32:34 2019.

What if the stock market tanks between now and November 2020?

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:36:55 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 21 03:53:57 2019.

People have won in court, even with Witnesses and written records before. It all depends on how good your attorney is.

So then the rest of your statement just verifies the fact that they should just leave it alone, nothing can come of it. By now the public knows who he is and who he isn't. You're either going to vote for him, or you're not

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 04:38:36 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 02:15:23 2019.

When you said beating a dead horse all Iím hearing is ďlet me sweep this under the rugĒ

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:41:51 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:35:38 2019.

Well then he could be in trouble. But no reasonable person wants that to happen.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:42:45 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 04:38:36 2019.

It's over Johnny!

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:43:29 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:42:45 2019.

No, I take it back. Make that a daily issue, and see where that gets everybody in the 2020 election

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Apr 21 04:44:34 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 03:46:26 2019.

"with a real focus on places like Erie, PA or Madison, WI, where Trump gained enough votes to win the EC"

Bingo! Thsys how Clinton loss and Trump won. Dems need yo focus on these places and other 'purple' areas if they are smart.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:46:14 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Apr 21 04:44:34 2019.

They need a candidate like Buttigieg or Klobuchar who knows how to turn out those areas. Fauxcahontas, Crazy Bernie, and Kamala Harris aren't that type of candidate.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:47:32 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:46:14 2019.

I agree.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:48:06 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Apr 21 04:44:34 2019.

Those areas fall for Trump's charm.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:52:28 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:48:06 2019.

If I want entertainment I'd see a show or watch television, not elect a President.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:58:06 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 04:52:28 2019.

That still doesn't negate my fact

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 04:59:20 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:43:29 2019.

It'll get trump back to trump tower. Which is what we need.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:05:32 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 04:59:20 2019.

No, it will keep him right in the White House. You have to realize that you are a fringe element. Normal people don't think like you. They know he has his shortcomings but we are still doing good economically and that's all people want. Jobs jobs jobs!!!

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:12:13 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 03:06:12 2019.

Still playing the Hillary and the Democrats weren't responsible for her loss card?
She, and the Democrats took the election for granted. Became lax. THAT is how they lost. when you have a garden and you don't take care of it, weeds grow.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 05:14:46 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Apr 21 03:06:12 2019.

That was a factor and not the whole factor. People forget or donít know that elections are nuanced and not just one thing deciding the outcome

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 05:14:57 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:12:13 2019.

Thatís part of it too

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:19:52 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:34:32 2019.

If anything, he's probably more down to earth and relatable than many past presidents to many blue collar types, as that is how they talk.


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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:22:07 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 05:14:57 2019.

That's almost ALL of it. Her unlikability was the other part of it.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:23:24 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 21 05:14:46 2019.

That is correct. And 2016 will probably be studied for decades

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:23:26 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:19:52 2019.

He's called the Blue Collar Billionaire

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:24:32 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:36:55 2019.

Al believes in guilty before innocent, instead of the other way around

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:25:40 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Apr 21 04:44:34 2019.

It's not that cut and dry as four years is 4 years and there could be other areas the Democrats will lose if they take for granted

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:26:26 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:05:32 2019.

She almost makes Bernie Sanders look sane

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 05:26:42 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:32:34 2019.

Mueller specifically cites the Russian GRU and their social media activities in his report, and has, in fact, indicted over a dozen of them for doing exactly what I described.

Incidentally, what president can call himself competent when his party controls both houses of Congress, yet the government shuts down four times?

It is possible for Trump to get re-elected, but with a track record like this, it certainly isn't a "done deal".

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:33:47 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Apr 21 05:26:42 2019.

No one says it's done deal but the Democrats have got to be doing different than what they are doing because they are on the road to lose again the way they're behaving and campaigning. Didn't learn from 2016

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:39:07 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:05:32 2019.

You have no clue what normal people think. Being a retired cop, the bulk of your entire adult life was limited to that social microcosm. (It is well known thta cops, given the nature of the work, have a hard time socializing outside their own)So you have no idea what "normal" people think. The best someone like you can do is the polls, which prove you wrong,wrong,wrong.

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:41:13 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:48:06 2019.

He has no charm. He's actually irritating. No doubt he learned to use that trait to his advantage, gett8ng what we wants from others that just want it to stop.

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:50:12 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:22:07 2019.

Wrong attitude. Since when does "likeability" come into it? That's purely sexist. Face it trump is far less likable that Sec. Clinton could ever imagine being. Yet you never mention that. People don't elect politicians on the basis of "like". They do based on platforms. That's why the republicans lose with me. Their platform has been and constinues to be misogynistic.

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:53:03 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:33:47 2019.

How's that? First, the election's over a year away. Second, there's been plenty of discussion about basic platform framework....solutions to healthcare issues, rights, judiciary, infrastructure, education, you name it.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 05:54:52 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 00:30:50 2019.

There were twelve other RINO challengers back in 2016, and the outsider beat them all. (Yes, even Ted Cruz had RINO tendencies, with his "path to citizenship" for illegals and his voting to give Obama certain powers that are unconstitutional with respect to certain treaty talks.)

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Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:55:38 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 04:41:51 2019.

What you want doesn't matter. This is a real issue, it's not hypothetical, what with trump attempting to pack the Fed with syncopants and trade tariffs.

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Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:57:03 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Apr 21 05:23:26 2019.

LOL! He's a seventy+ year old spoiled indulged privileged brat!

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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 21 06:00:15 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 05:33:47 2019.

"(I)t is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost (if not quite) one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals."
That was written by Woodrow Wilson in the 19th century, and during his presidency in the next century, he absolutely put it into practice.

Dems have been left-wing ideologues since the early 1900s, in practice. They're not going to suddenly change now.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Apr 21 06:02:53 2019, in response to Re: All You Trump Haters Owe Trump An Apology, posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 21 05:53:03 2019.

That's wonderful but you'd never know it with all the smoke from the Trump this and that crap.

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