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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 16 16:01:42 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 16 11:58:13 2019.

Not that I think America could pull off a functional universal healthcare system

By "universal", do you mean "government-run"?

The presence of doctors and hospitals is "universal" by definition. Were things better or worse when doctors paid people visits at their homes, something that almost never happens anymore?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 16 17:09:17 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Mar 16 11:49:21 2019.

any form of photo ID+SSN

Even stolen SSNs?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 16 17:23:52 2019, in response to Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 12:21:37 2019.

can anyone show me in history where stupid ass wall worked ??

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Mar 16 17:46:40 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 15:08:37 2019.

I don't recall ever being told to carry my draft card.

Read the back of your draft card.

"The law requires you to have this certificate in your personal possession at all times..."

Read the back of your classification card.

"The law requires you to have this Notice in addition to your Registration Certificate, in your personal possession at all times and to surrender it upon entering active duty in the Armed Services."

Should you be reported for burning your draft card?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 18:06:09 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 16 17:23:52 2019.

Yeah. Your house.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:07:02 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 16 17:23:52 2019.

Berlin

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:07:18 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 18:06:09 2019.

Not analogous.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 18:09:39 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:07:18 2019.

I'm very glad your wife is getting better.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 16 18:11:06 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:07:02 2019.

Yes, but only because the Berlin Wall was equipped with little adornments like gun towers.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:12:43 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Mar 16 18:11:06 2019.

Well, yeah.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 16 18:25:50 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 18:09:39 2019.

thank you very much sir !

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Mar 16 18:27:18 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Mar 16 13:55:10 2019.

i did not even bother to register in 1971 !!!!
not going to the vietnam war

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:28:38 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:07:18 2019.

The overwhelming majority of single family homes in the LA area have significant fences. Especially in lower income areas where crime is more common. Seems fairly analogous.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:35:05 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:28:38 2019.

That is more analogous. I agree.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Mar 16 18:36:39 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:28:38 2019.

That sounds extremely immoral and discriminatory.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:46:41 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:35:05 2019.

More analogous for the 10% to 20% of the border whose American side is suburban or low density urban.

Not analogous for the 1000+ miles of border where the US side requires a 100 mile walk through the desert once you've crossed. Very few houses in LA have a 100 mile expanse of desert in their front yard.



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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:49:24 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:46:41 2019.

Actually, it’s completely analogous. Some homes need simple fences, others need big fences or walls, and some others need nothing at all.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:53:30 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:46:41 2019.

Still similar. No one watches your home when you're away just like no one watches the fence. Neither are effective in stopping anyone. Criminals/migrants are forced to be ever so slightly more creative. Yet people install fences to feel safer.

To continue the analogy, what we need to do at the border after building the wall is to release about 10 million pit bulls. That would do the trick.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:54:43 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 18:49:24 2019.

OK, except CMM uses the comparison to houses as a reason the entire border needs a wall, not a reason why half the border needs a vehicle fence and 10% needs a high fence to keep people out.



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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:56:00 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:53:30 2019.

10 million pit bulls

Helicopters and drone are so much cheaper, because you don't need as many.


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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 16 18:56:51 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:54:43 2019.

Are you joining us next month?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:58:22 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:56:00 2019.

I think that we could have e-verify everywhere and people would stop coming. Cheapest solution of all.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 19:07:28 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 18:58:22 2019.

I agree. And we had 2 years of Republican House, Senate, and President, and it never even came up for a vote. :(

This is why I think Republicans are exploiting the illegals issue and not actually trying to solve it.



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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Easy on Sat Mar 16 19:15:19 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 19:07:28 2019.

Agreed. Wanting to build a wall is an emotional response, not a well thought out solution.

I recall reading that e-verify couldn't handle all jobs, but I would imagine spending the billions intended for the wall would make it possible.

But if you think that people (Democrats, latinx, socialists, etc) are anti-wall and anti-ice, just wait until something that would actually work is presented. People that have jobs, work, and raise a family would lose their jobs. Our economy might even crash, certainly California would.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Mar 16 22:46:30 2019, in response to Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 12:21:37 2019.

Votes

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Mar 16 22:52:39 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Mitch45 on Sat Mar 16 22:46:30 2019.

They don't need them for "votes".

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 23:38:51 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Mitch45 on Sat Mar 16 22:46:30 2019.

Who wants to vote for more illegals?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 17 00:13:24 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 19:07:28 2019.

BINGO!

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 00:15:27 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 23:38:51 2019.

The theory is that people here illegally and their progeny will be voting democratic for generations.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 00:27:54 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 00:15:27 2019.

Not a theory. Already in practice.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 17 00:36:52 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 17 00:15:27 2019.

And I thought politicians were short-sighted.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 17 04:23:43 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by bingbong on Sat Mar 16 13:16:08 2019.

No it ain't!

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 08:15:32 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 13:33:45 2019.

Yes, yours was a place for a good fence where there isn't one already. The last hundred miles of the Rio Grande is pretty much the only place though. If Trump hadn't falsely politicized the whole thing it would be getting built there with no fanfare whatsoever.





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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 09:54:31 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 00:27:54 2019.

So why aren't the republicans offering them a better deal? In fact, that applies to just about every other group in this country, aside from old white men...

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 09:58:42 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Mar 17 04:23:43 2019.

Yes, it is. I don't hear anything about deporting illegal Norweigans, as if there are any.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:28:23 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 09:54:31 2019.

"old white men" A very self hating thing to say.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 10:43:30 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:28:23 2019.

Why? She isn't an old white man.

If I said it, that would be different. :)





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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 17 10:44:13 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Mitch45 on Sat Mar 16 22:46:30 2019.

Illegals do not vote.


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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:45:42 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:28:23 2019.

She's an old white man?

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:45:57 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 10:43:30 2019.

I don't think she's old. But she is white.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:46:33 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:45:42 2019.

I don't think she's old. But she is white.


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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:48:41 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:46:33 2019.

But is she a man, baby?

If not, you gotta understand that feminists hate men.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:51:45 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 10:48:41 2019.

You are sounding like Luch with that last line :)

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:52:20 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:45:57 2019.

And she is not a man, but we can’t be so sure these days.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Mar 17 10:57:02 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:51:45 2019.

I was thinking that too.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 11:04:05 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:51:45 2019.

Nope; feminists will tell you that themselves. And if they don't, then you aren't talking to the honest ones. That goes way back before Luch's birth.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sun Mar 17 11:06:43 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:52:20 2019.

She self identifies as a woman. That should be enough these days.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:27:37 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 17 10:51:45 2019.

Yes, he is.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:29:40 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 11:04:05 2019.

Not exclusively. The majority are actually happily heterosexuals. We like our bras.

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Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 17 11:38:36 2019, in response to Re: Why are Democrats so desperate to coddle illegal aliens?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Mar 17 10:44:13 2019.

They would never go near any place to vote, either. Risk of arrest is always in the back of their minds

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