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NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15 |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jan 16 17:53:30 2019 It's the third rise in the city's base wage since Dec. 31, 2016 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 16 18:08:22 2019, in response to NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Dave on Wed Jan 16 17:53:30 2019. Just as the terrible "righties" predicted. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 18:31:42 2019, in response to NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Dave on Wed Jan 16 17:53:30 2019. Who is surprised by this |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 16 18:52:00 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 18:31:42 2019. People like Alexandria Cortez-Ocasio, no doubt.Someone will try to introduce legislation prohibiting reduction of work hours solely due to a salary raise. That will force stores to close completely. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Jan 16 19:57:52 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 18:31:42 2019. The leftists |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jan 16 20:45:18 2019, in response to NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Dave on Wed Jan 16 17:53:30 2019. Gosh golly gee, I never thought that this would happen 😁😁😀 |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 23:44:12 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 16 18:52:00 2019. Perhaps it will and then they'll all be assed out. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:01:02 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 18:31:42 2019. "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him."- Robert A. Heinlein |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 08:31:51 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Jan 16 23:44:12 2019. Then they'll pass legislation prohibiting stores from closing due to lack of sufficient profits. They will put a cap on how much profit a business owner is allowed to make, thus ensuring that businesses remain open. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 08:53:59 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 08:31:51 2019. That sounds a little bit commie. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Jan 17 14:03:56 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 08:53:59 2019. LOL |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 14:23:20 2019, in response to NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Dave on Wed Jan 16 17:53:30 2019. Just audit their finances. Simple, show me the “hurt” |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:48:02 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 08:53:59 2019. I wouldn't put it past the current Democratic House. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:48:49 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:01:02 2019. Heinlein had more common sense than Ocasio-Cortez. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:52:15 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 14:23:20 2019. Do you understand that the government has no right to audit anyone's finances without good cause shown that a crime is being committed? Do you understand the concept of privacy? If making a profit is a crime, then we might as well close up the entire country and move to Cuba.Not to mention the cost of employing thousands of government agents who are to perform these audits. Who is going to pay them? Let me guess: the taxpayers! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:00:44 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 14:23:20 2019. They have no obligation to even remain in business or hire anyone.I predict more automation. Restaurants will give guests tablets to place their orders and they will be delivered by robots, like that mail robot from The Americans. Maybe someone will bring back the automat. Also you know how in Japan they have conveyor belt sushi? I predict more of that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:01:25 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:01:02 2019. Not applicable. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 17 15:01:30 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:52:15 2019. Do you understand that the government has no right to audit anyone's finances without good cause shown that a crime is being committed?Really? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:06:23 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:48:02 2019. LOL! |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:12:32 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:52:15 2019. Did I say government? Workers could sue and force establishments to disclose their earnings and projections, sure the restaurants could close a response. However it would send a message that workers wont simply be used as staging pawns. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 15:21:48 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:00:44 2019. And that was predicted when the fast food workers made their demands for a hike in minimum wage.Be careful what you wish for because in this case you'll put yourself at $0.00 an hour. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:22:00 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:00:44 2019. True but workers could sue, saying their hours were cut out of malice, and demand numbers to prove it. Similar to car wash workers and what they did. There is a precedence.0 |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:23:29 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 15:21:48 2019. Automation comes whether or not, it happened in the auto industry. Its happening even in transit. Workers that cant quit, dont strike, dont need medical. The $15 is just an excuse to use. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 17 15:25:45 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:00:44 2019. Automation is happening anyway. Restaurant owners have enough trouble finding workers who can get themselves a reasonable place to live at the wages they pay, even when those wages are $15.I would contend that the $15 wage is only a slight acceleration of what supply and demand is causing, perhaps occasionally cutting demand and occasionally getting somebody their $15 a few years earlier than they would be getting paid that anyway (or lose their job anyway even in the absence of the $15 minimum wage). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:27:49 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:12:32 2019. What would they sue for? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:28:59 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:22:00 2019. What is the cause of action? As at will employees, the employers could cut their hours for any reason outside of discrimination as a member of a protected class. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:29:23 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 17 15:25:45 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 15:31:50 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:12:32 2019. Bizarre post. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jan 17 15:33:06 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:22:00 2019. Really? Based on what law would I be sued if I decided to up productivity and cut hours commensurately |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:34:55 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:28:59 2019. Thats the question, they could go the racial route and declare that it disappropriately affects X or Y race. There are many resturants luckily paying fair wages and removing tips altogether, hopefully such a trend will continue. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:36:54 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:34:55 2019. Who could go the racial route? I highly doubt that many of these employers cut hours in any pattern that might appear discriminatory. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:37:36 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jan 17 15:33:06 2019. How can you accomplish both? Youre assuming that workers when their time and money are cut will accomplish equal to or more productivity? It depends on their lawyer, they can go discrimination or perhaps even claim wage theft. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:39:34 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:36:54 2019. Who? Shall I go out an do interviews for you? As I said its one of many possibilities. We shall see when and if lawsuits do appear. At the end of the day, the best way to support this is to outright boycott restaurants and businesses that wont support a living wage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:41:06 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:37:36 2019. Wage theft? LOL!So you're saying that these employees will find an unethical lawyer who will file a groundless lawsuit? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:42:34 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:41:06 2019. Lawyers have ethics? Lol?I mean spider how many groundless lawsuits are filed everyday in this country? You forgot what country were in? Lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:45:41 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:39:34 2019. There won't be any lawsuits.I'm not going to boycott restaurants that are just trying to stay in business. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:50:38 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:45:41 2019. the assumption is theyre trying to stay in business, is that necessarily true? Do you believe the story about the trump taxcuts then? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:59:10 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:42:34 2019. Thanks for admitting such a suit would be groundless. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 15:59:32 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:01:25 2019. I KNEW either you or Alm were gonna say that!!!To a degree it is. It is the city of New York forcing small business owners to pay higher wages to the staff then the owners can't afford, under the guise as it's good for business all around |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 16:06:23 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:59:10 2019. I said there could be lawsuits, never said theyd win. Groundless or not doesnt mean they cant or wont happen.Side note... is that your impression of Luch? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 16:12:44 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 16:06:23 2019. Your original assertion was that they could file lawsuits as a vehicle to compel unnecessary disclosure. These things cost money. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 16:16:24 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 16:12:44 2019. And? Your original assertion was that it wouldnt happen. Discovery costs money? Yes, and again groundless lawsuits are filed everyday in this country, Even with them costing money. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jan 17 16:33:16 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 17 15:37:36 2019. I'm an extremely competent manager who can maximize resources. Now what am I going to be sued for? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 17 17:05:58 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 16:12:44 2019. In New York a baseless lawsuit would not survive pre-discovery Motion to Dismiss and would also likely result in sanctions for the attorney pursuant to 22 NYCRR §130-1.1(a) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:48:31 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:48:49 2019. There arent many that have less common sense than her |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:49:38 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 08:53:59 2019. Except that's what the left wants. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:50:00 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 17 14:48:02 2019. Or that winner in city hall |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:51:10 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jan 17 15:31:50 2019. Yes. It reaks of communism |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:52:16 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:00:44 2019. I know a sushi restaurant that you order with iPads. People still bring it but, but ordering is automated. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Jan 17 17:54:23 2019, in response to Re: NYC restaurants cutting staff hours as minimum wage hits $15, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 15:36:54 2019. Yeah, the left's favorite, when all else fails pull out the race card.. |
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