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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 10 13:32:59 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 13:05:20 2019.

Serious reply

"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man.""



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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 10 13:35:54 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 13:18:29 2019.

What I believe is that a wall on the continental USA's southern border is not border security. I also believe it's not the solution for stopping illegal immigrants/drug smuggling.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 13:36:32 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 12:31:48 2019.

I looked it up and the mayor of Knoxville is a chick.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:01:22 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 10 13:35:54 2019.

IAWTP
well said
good post

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 14:03:15 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 10 13:35:54 2019.

The Wall appeals to the Trumpenproletariat because it's a simple monosyllabic solution. An actual immigration policy and properly funding what the CBP [Latin script] wants would be too complicated for those people who make their arguments using memes.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 10 14:05:35 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 10 10:11:42 2019.

But for different reasons.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:17:04 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by WayneJay on Thu Jan 10 13:35:54 2019.

The people who live down there, regardless of their personal politics, are widely opposed to this boondoggle. It really is time to drop this, restart the government and pursue more effective means towards border security.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:27:12 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 10 09:26:28 2019.

The electoral college fluke trump pulled off. And trump is the arrogant unlikeable boob here.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:27:59 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 13:36:32 2019.

Okay. So Chicago lied.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:35:18 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 10 13:32:59 2019.

lol. I know. I'm not being facetious.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:35:56 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:01:22 2019.

figures

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:36:35 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:01:22 2019.

Salaam, why don't you just admit it. You don't believe country's should have any borders, and people on this Earth can go anywhere they please on this planet without consequences, or repercussions.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:40:47 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:35:56 2019.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:41:15 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:36:35 2019.

not really i just disagree on the method

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:41:30 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:27:59 2019.

I didn't lie, I was misinformed. He's the mayor of Knox County Tennessee, which Knoxville, Tennessee is a part of. So it wasn't a lie per se. I was incorrect. A lie is deliberate. That was not deliberate.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:42:26 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:41:15 2019.

Yeah right.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:44:13 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:42:26 2019.

its true i beleive in leaving countries alone so you dont have so many refugees trying to flee

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:52:51 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 14:44:13 2019.

It's all the United State's fault huh?

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 14:56:51 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:41:30 2019.

It’s confusing that their counties call their chief executives mayors.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:57:41 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 9 17:01:20 2019.



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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:58:15 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 14:56:51 2019.

Yes it is bizarre.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 10 15:08:00 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:58:15 2019.

Down here in South Flori-DUH, Miami-Dade County has what's known as a strong mayor, i.e., elected by the citizens and functions much as a city mayor would. There is also a County Commission, but pretty much, the mayor runs things. Unfortunately, he is a corrupt asshole, who fucks up about everything, especially Miami-Dade Transit >:(

Meanwhile, where I live in Broward County, they have a "weak" mayor system. Basically, the Broward County Mayor is one of the county commissioners who is elected by the commission. So the public doesn't elect them, aside from the voters in their particular commission district. This is the current incumbent


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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 10 15:11:54 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:41:30 2019.

A lie is deliberate. That was not deliberate.

I agree.

But weren't you just making the same kind of accusation to Fred when he told a joke and you called it a lie?




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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 15:13:46 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:52:51 2019.

past policies drove people out of central america yes
you will never admit that

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 15:14:30 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:57:41 2019.

NOPE !!!!

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:14:47 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jan 10 15:08:00 2019.

Interesting.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:15:15 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 15:14:30 2019.

They both are idiots.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:15:46 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 15:13:46 2019.

I won't admit to something that's not true.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:16:42 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 10 15:11:54 2019.

Since you want to but in, Link?

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 10 15:37:11 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 13:09:10 2019.

Yes, because he's not a politician so he doesn't have to play the game

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 15:40:39 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 14:56:51 2019.

I'd say so. Mayor was always a municipal xecutive (city). Usually a county has chief executive. Confusing.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 15:43:13 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 10 15:37:11 2019.

Wrong. He has to once he took office. If he didn't ant to do this, he shouldn't have run.

And he's a truly crappy negotiator. Tantrums are not a helpful skill in any negotiation.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 15:44:39 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:57:41 2019.

Yeah. They like rights. All Americans should.

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Re: Bingbing owes me an apology -Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 16:44:59 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:41:30 2019.

For calling me a liar.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 16:46:26 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 15:44:39 2019.

You owe me an apology.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 10 16:51:36 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:27:12 2019.

Trump didn't pull anything off. He won under the current election laws of the United States. There was never a legal challenge to his win.

And that's beside the point. Hillary should never have gotten to the point where Trump could win via the Electoral College. It was a pathetic showing. She should have won by 10 million votes, not 3 million.

I mean - DONALD TRUMP?

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 10 16:57:49 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 14:41:30 2019.

I tried explaining that to them a million times

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 16:58:25 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 15:14:30 2019.

What's your email address? I want to sent you something.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 10 16:58:48 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 10 16:51:36 2019.

AWESOME POST!

She just continues to harp on the Electoral College thing as if it still matters. Yes, I continue to argue in favor of its abolition, but that won't change the past. The EC has been around for centuries and both campaigns knew how it worked. Obama had no problem winning decisive electoral vote victories against normal Republican candidates. It is just pathetic that the Loser Party couldn't beat TRUMP of all people.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Thu Jan 10 17:00:07 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 12:07:02 2019.

Geez, you ugly cunt. Is this what you remain alive for? Get a life.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 17:25:40 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 13:16:26 2019.

So we're cool.😎

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by FtgreeneG on Thu Jan 10 17:29:29 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 10 16:51:36 2019.

Pretty much.

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:41:24 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:15:15 2019.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:42:13 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 15:15:46 2019.

you are ignoring the truth and facts

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Re: Holds His Ground

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 17:44:53 2019, in response to Re: Holds His Ground, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 17:25:40 2019.

Well this looks like this is the closest I'm going to get an apology from you. So sure we're cool.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 17:47:16 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:42:13 2019.

What's your email address? I want to sent you something.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:48:09 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 17:47:16 2019.

transitphotography@yahoo.com

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

my main E mail please !!!

thank you sir

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 17:52:05 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:48:09 2019.

Stand by.

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 10 17:57:31 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 10 17:52:05 2019.

ok !
i will be back later
k

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Re: Trumper Tantrum

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 10 18:01:24 2019, in response to Re: Trumper Tantrum, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 10 14:27:12 2019.

Shrillary is worse. That's why she lost.

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