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Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018

He's a goner, IMO.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 07:34:29 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

Why?

If so, it'd be because of left-wing RINOs such as Jeff Flake.

And no, the conditions that led to Bork being gone are no longer there.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 07:42:04 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

I believe her story but Americans are tired of these tactics.

These tactics are why Trump won.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 07:44:48 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 07:42:04 2018.

I believe her story

I don't. She's a knitter of "pink pussy hats".

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:48:16 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

Too soon to tell.

The only reason they want him rammed through and 90% of the documents redacted is that McConnell fears losing the Senate.

But rape is a very serious offense. Merrick Garland anyone ?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:49:18 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 07:34:29 2018.

Anyone not a Trumpican is a liberal to you.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 07:52:58 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

While I think something is off about the Professor’s story because this was known awhile ago, I think the Republicans lost a majority because of his comments about “abortion inducing drugs” and a lax attitude toward precedent. The Democrats better be careful what they wish for because there are plenty of jurists more extreme than Kavanaugh and with less of a track record. Trump could easily nominate Amul Thapar as the first Indian-American Supreme Court Justice.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:59:38 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 07:42:04 2018.

The tactics that caused Merrick Garland to not even be considered for 10 months ?

Trump won because of the stupid blue collar Dems in the 3 rust belt states believed his populist horseshit and their local plants would re-open. With his approval rating down to 36%, that advantage is gone.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:00:03 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 07:52:58 2018.

I believe the story. Her motivation for telling it now is political.


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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:00:34 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 07:52:58 2018.

I believe the story. Her motivation for telling it now is political.


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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 08:01:14 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 07:52:58 2018.

Over turning Roe v Wade is a slippery slope to banning contraception.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:03:03 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:59:38 2018.

This is the first time you ever responded to one of my posts.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:03:04 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:59:38 2018.

This is the first time you ever responded to one of my posts.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:04:36 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:03:04 2018.

Just remember that the FBI said nothing about this alleged "story" when screening Kavanaugh.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:07:21 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:04:36 2018.

I believe it but still think they should vote.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:11:23 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 08:01:14 2018.

No one wants to stop abortion.

We need more abortion to lower crime.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:15:09 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

Dave please don't tell me you're against his confirmation.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:16:28 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 07:42:04 2018.

More proof you're a liberal.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:54:43 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:07:21 2018.

I believe it

Why?

Because "Kavanaugh"?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:55:25 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:16:28 2018.

Oh; he's a flaming liberal. Lots of those can masquerade as conservative when they want to.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:56:03 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:15:09 2018.

He was for Abortion Barbie for TX governor versus Greg Abbott.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:31:45 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:03:03 2018.

Pure coincidence. I was not avoiding you.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:32:49 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:16:28 2018.

What do you think this Kavanaugh is going to do to improve your life ?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:41:47 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:11:23 2018.

Over-turning Roe v Wade won't stop abortion.

It was passed as a public health issue, not a partisan issue. Abortions had been a function of location and wealth. Done under dangerous conditions for all others.

Reagan made it partisan in order to get the vote of the Fundamentalist, who have now hijacked the GOP. No consideration to the health of the mother. Pure sexism.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 09:45:56 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:41:47 2018.

lol!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 09:49:25 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:32:49 2018.

That is likely the most ignorant statement that you've ever made on this venue. Supreme Court Justice stices are only supposed to decide cases brought before it based on the constitution. They are not supposed to try to make your life better.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 09:50:24 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 09:49:25 2018.

So he thinks we have a kritocracy?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:14:28 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 07:34:29 2018.

Very bad PR in this political climate to vote for an alleged groper.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:17:22 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 08:00:03 2018.

She told the story several months ago. Sen. Feinstein received the letter back in July, IIRC.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:22:30 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 08:15:09 2018.

I hope he is confirmed. I think he'd make an excellent justice and has the potential to be chief.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 10:23:14 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:22:30 2018.

Thank you Dave.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 10:39:57 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Sep 17 08:55:25 2018.

Iawtlp

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 10:40:47 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:22:30 2018.

I have my concerns, namely his belief in unchecked power of executive/judiciary. See his comments regarding Carpenter and previous writings on investigations of the President. When you give the government that much control it never ends well. I also have concerns about his attitude towards precedent. His answers were what I would expect from someone like Justice Sotomayor, a Justice who has zero respect for precedent if it goes against her view of the Constitution. We do not need another Justice who thinks that the Constitution is what the individual Justice says it is.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 10:41:18 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 09:32:49 2018.

Properly interpret the constitution, and not legislate from the bench.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 10:42:33 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 09:49:25 2018.

Iawtlp

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Sep 17 10:43:43 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 10:40:47 2018.

Zero respect? Just because it was accepted once doesnt mean it was right. It is the job of the court to correct such things. So disrespect is a pathetic word to use

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 10:46:34 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Sep 17 10:41:18 2018.

How do you determine whether an interpretation is proper and not legislating from the bench? Decisions on controversial questions are rarely unanimous these days. Reasonable people can differ when terms are ambiguous.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:13:59 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 09:49:25 2018.

Such decisions can have a drastic impact on people's lives, positive or negative.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 12:20:58 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:13:59 2018.

But that is not supposed to I the decision.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:27:19 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

Because of an allegation that happened when he was in fucking high school 36 years ago or so?! I mean anybody that is going to take that into consideration or to have their head examined! What has he done in his 20s, 30s, 40s, and now 50s?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:28:55 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 10:14:28 2018.

Hold the presses! I lifted up my neighbors skirt when we were in kindergarten and we were the same age! I hope I better not run for public office one day, lest this comes back to haunt me!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:29:39 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 07:59:38 2018.

Why were they stupid?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:31:05 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 09:49:25 2018.

Exactly!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:31:13 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:27:19 2018.

Again, why is this allegation invalid, when child molestation charges are brought long after the crime was committed, without questioning the victim's veracity?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:31:53 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:28:55 2018.

Drunken 17 year olds do stupid things, and it is a matter of he said / she said. But she said she feared for her life. Little different than making a pass at someone.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:33:49 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 08:01:14 2018.

Why does everybody left have sent to say this for? Nobody says they're overturning Roe vs Wade!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:35:07 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:29:39 2018.

Because they believed his crap. Killing NAFTA, TPP, and imposing massive tariffs does not reopen shuttered plants. But it will raise their consumer prices.
Such isolationism caused a huge economic downturn again in 1937.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:37:39 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 12:33:49 2018.

Of course not. He does not want to blow away Murkowsi and Collins vote.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:07:04 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 17 12:31:13 2018.

I question the validity and veracity if child molestation charges are brought up decades after they happened. I know, and you know that this is just a desperate attempt to try to derail his appointment. It's like whistling against the wind, it's not going to do any good and he is going to get confirmed anyway so that's that, there's nothing we could do about it!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 13:08:06 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 17 12:31:53 2018.

She feared for her life decades ago, but by all means let's not say anything until 2018!

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