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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 22:32:15 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 21:27:28 2018.

He didn't rape her (at least, I haven't heard otherwise).

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 22:32:42 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Sep 17 21:31:32 2018.

Quiet, Luch. Adults are speaking now.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 22:37:23 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 17 21:56:45 2018.

Police School? You must have me confused with someone else.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 23:20:55 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 17 21:57:33 2018.

LOL. You are mentally Ill.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 23:23:22 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 22:32:15 2018.

Sorry, attempted rape.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 07:30:30 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Mon Sep 17 23:23:22 2018.

That hasn't been alleged, either (AFAIK).

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 08:37:54 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 18 07:30:30 2018.

“While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.”

Sure sounds like it

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 08:59:57 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 08:37:54 2018.

Teenage shenanigans!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Sep 18 09:13:47 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 19:43:01 2018.

I'm talking about votes in nominees.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 09:39:48 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 08:59:57 2018.

Let me do that to your wife then.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:55:36 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 09:39:48 2018.

Good! What did Henny Youngman always say?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 09:55:59 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 09:39:48 2018.

And aren't you in your sixties? That's different than being a teenager out of school party, wouldn't you think?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:01:51 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 09:39:48 2018.

Really, Fred? Do you even think that's an appropriate comment? Even if you believe the story to be true, how do you compare a tale of high school hijinx 35 years ago to a conscious act of sexual aggression by a 60 year old?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:05:38 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:01:51 2018.

He is so non-threatening, I don't even get angry at it. It's what the left does. They always go below the belt with nasty comments like that when they cannot use debate.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:14:50 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:05:38 2018.

Way back when, I went to an all boys high school. We rode the GG local every day with girls from 2 all-girl Catholic high schools. Almost every day, the lights in the last car were shut off and the "play" between the sexes began. Still, those girls always found themselves in the last car. Sexually acting out in your teens is quite normal for both sexes. I'm certain that this woman's story is likely true. I'm sure that she viewed it differently 35 years ago and equally certain that she really doesn't remember who it was with her on that bed, way back when.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:24:27 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:14:50 2018.

When I was in high school, they had this chick nicknamed B9 Brenda ( I hope this doesn't belong on bus chat! LOL ). Anyway, she went to Bishop Connie and she would let all of the guys from FDR and Xavarian groper and finger bang her on the 60th Street bus. Hell, there was a cute Sicilian girl that was in my grade in high school that always used to sit across from me and never wore a bra and you can see her small titties with the brown nipples always peeking out from a white shirt. She knew I was looking and she always sat across from me until we hooked up when we were juniors in high school and she told me that she used to sit across from me purposely so I can look! This is what teenagers do! At least this is what we did in the early 80s

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:02:52 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:24:27 2018.

Yup and now the kids just call it "hooking up".

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 18 11:02:58 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 22:30:34 2018.

I saw that afterwards so I corrected. In my html code I had accidentally put quotation marks around the url.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:03:01 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 10:24:27 2018.

Yup and now the kids just call it "hooking up".

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:07:15 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 10:01:51 2018.

So it's inappropriate behavior. Thanks.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:09:40 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:07:15 2018.

Of course it's inappropriate behavior. It should also come to a grown man that SOME high school kids sometime act inappropriately.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:11:39 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:09:40 2018.

A grown man would realize that no means no and inappropriate behavior is wrong.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:20:41 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:11:39 2018.

And who are you referring to now?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:32:18 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 11:09:40 2018.

So then you would believe that someone could overcome that behavior and grow up to be a more appropriate human being.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 12:53:23 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:32:18 2018.

Of course. Most people do

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 18 13:19:47 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 11:32:18 2018.

Even if the accusation is true, yes.
Considering, they had to go all the way back to high school, and 30-40 years, even more so.

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Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 14:03:18 2018, in response to Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Dave on Mon Sep 17 07:32:12 2018.

Politico

Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing

By Elana Schor, Burgess Everett and Eliana Johnson
09/18/2018 10:07 AM EDT | Updated 09/18/2018 01:32 PM EDT
The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her decades ago has not yet confirmed her appearance at a public hearing the GOP is planning next week as of midday Tuesday, according to top Republican senators.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said that his staff has reached out to Christine Blasey Ford’s camp several times since the California-based professor came forward with her story of a high-school-era assault by President Donald Trump’s high court pick. Although Ford’s lawyer said that her client would be open to “a fair proceeding,” it remains unclear whether she would agree to a planned hearing on Sept. 24 that Republicans have set up to help save Kavanaugh’s nomination.

"I don't know how they can say: I'm just not going to appear. She has the option of a closed session, with cameras or without. We want her to appear. And then she has said, before we made the decision that she wanted to appear. So that's what we want," Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) said after he and other Judiciary Committee Republicans met with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) for nearly an hour.

"She's asked to come and testify, she needs to be heard … I hope she comes."

But Grassley later reiterated that Ford still hadn't contacted his panel: "We have not heard from her."

"Our staff reached out to Dr. Ford’s lawyer with multiple emails yesterday to schedule a similar call and inform her of the upcoming hearing, where she will have the opportunity to share her story with the Committee. Her lawyer has not yet responded," said Taylor Foy, a spokesman for Grassley on the committee.

Republicans have billed the public hearing as an opportunity for both Kavanaugh and Ford to share their sides of the story. GOP leaders made that decision under pressure from undecided members of their conference — chiefly Flake, who said he would vote against Kavanaugh in the committee if senators didn’t get more of a chance to hear from Ford.

"We have a woman who has come forward, she deserves to be heard, it's important that her voice and her story is shared," said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), an undecided swing vote on the nomination, on Tuesday.

If Ford ultimately opts out of the opportunity to testify, however, Republicans suggested that they plan to move forward with a Kavanaugh-only hearing. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), a former Judiciary chairman, said that “I think” the hearing would proceed even if Ford chooses not to accept the invitation to testify.


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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 18 14:05:46 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Mon Sep 17 19:16:05 2018.

"No, it isn't. How a guy approaches women/girls at that age defines attitudes for a lifetime."

Nonsense. What studies do you have to back that up? Every kid I ever knew growing up in NYC got drunk & stupid as a teenager at least once...or twice & still grew up to be good solid family raising professional people. They either went on to College or got their asses shot off in Viet Nam.

We'd go to dances at the old "Martyr Christe" HS in Astoria & some guys (and girls) would get into serious grinding as hormones raged.
The Brother in charge of the dance would come over & try to pry them apart saying "Make Room for the Holy Ghost"
Point being, if you go back to teenage years & check out how many guys (& girls) got into touchy-feely situations, you'd have nobody elected to anything.
As for Kavanaugh, AFAIK, he's been thru at least 6 FBI backround checks & come up clean.

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 14:07:12 2018, in response to Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 14:03:18 2018.

She certainly seems not to want to be put under oath or seek a speedy resolution. Her motives are suspect.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 14:57:48 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Sep 17 23:20:55 2018.

Hardly. You're a misogynist.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 14:58:54 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Sep 17 22:37:23 2018.

Oh so you hate women too.

Yes, police school. Where you learn how to be a cop. Yunno, the job you retired from.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:00:01 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Sep 17 22:02:01 2018.

Two dead links prove nothing.

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 15:04:50 2018, in response to Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 14:03:18 2018.

#irishcatholic
#tfif

Where's AlM?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 18 15:05:23 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 14:57:48 2018.

Really? Based on what? Are you a child molester?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Sep 18 15:07:23 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:00:01 2018.

See my next post. I did the html code incorrectly and accidentally put quotation marks around the url. In the next post I posted the links correctly.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:16:59 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 18 13:19:47 2018.

Full background checks go back to age 16. Kavanaugh was 17 when this happened. This is a valid issue WRT this creep's qualifications.

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:21:41 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 14:07:12 2018.

That's highly doubtful. She has attorneys. She has every right to seek their counsel in persuing this. She certainly should. The planned hearing is a week away, there's one to confirm.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:23:04 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 18 15:05:23 2018.

You've hit the ridiculous there. Just because YOU may be a hateful molester doesn't mean everyone else is. Your posts reveal your hate.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 18 15:24:26 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:23:04 2018.

Really? Do we really want to go there?

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 18 15:26:27 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:23:04 2018.

From one of the most mean spirited hate spewed posters here.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 18 15:31:16 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 18 15:26:27 2018.

She's more than mean spirited.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 15:51:21 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 18 14:05:46 2018.

Exactly!!

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 15:52:15 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 18 15:21:41 2018.

Of course she has attorneys! The crybaby Democratic party is behind all of this! Well guess what? He's getting confirmed anyway, but let's just play Devil's Advocate and say he doesn't, it's going to be someone else who you guys don't like!

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Are dee em on Tue Sep 18 16:09:03 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 15:51:21 2018.

If this doesn’t work the Democrats have just unearthed one of Kavanaugh’s third grade female classmates. She has a Kodak picture of an 8 year old Kavanaugh planting a nervous peck on her cheek at her parents urging while giving her a Valentines Day card. How totally absurd this whole process has become.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 16:11:05 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Are dee em on Tue Sep 18 16:09:03 2018.

absurd? Yes.

But the way alcohol is at the forefront of it all is making my day everyday.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 16:11:57 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 18 14:05:46 2018.

Here is the accusation:

"“While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.”


That's more than copping a feel at the CYO dance.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by Are dee em on Tue Sep 18 16:22:03 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 16:11:05 2018.

I understand the alcohol angle of all this but when are we going to judge people on their entire body of work and stop punishing them for alleged past transgressions that may or may not be related to youthful exuberance and poor judgement. How many of us out there want to be defined by our first 20 years of life

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 18 16:22:43 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 18 15:04:50 2018.

You and your anti-Irish hate again.

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Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Sep 18 16:23:05 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh vote delayed, posted by Are dee em on Tue Sep 18 16:09:03 2018.

Consider that Kagan was confirmed 63-37 and sodamaker was confirmed 67-31, it's clear that the Republicans understand 'advise and consent' while the democrats understand 'hate and resist'.

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Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify

Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 18 16:23:36 2018, in response to Re: Kavanaugh accuser has not yet agreed to attend hearing to testify, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Sep 18 15:52:15 2018.

Likely someone who doesn't feel Trump is above the law.

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