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Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 16:30:27 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. I'd like to read some OTchatthoughts on this.LOL fuck that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 30 17:11:24 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. What, not in Hamburg, Düsseldorf, Köln or other cities?The existence of "safe zones" implies they've allowed no-go areas. You know, the ones they keep denying exist. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 19:18:08 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. It reminds me of an incident decades ago at an NYC zoo (I forget whether Bronx or Central Park) in which numbers of captive zoo birds were being killed inside their open air (but caged) enclosures.When some said that the birds have to be put inside secure enclosures others said this would be a terrible concession to violence in society. But at least one person said that in a society where people will no longer control their own impulses we have to consider physical barriers. I may be recalling the details imperfectly but that's the gist of it. So in Berlin. If that society can not or will not count on the restraints of civilization to prevent mass violence against women in a celebration, we may need to offer women a "cage," not to keep them in, but to keep the thugs out. I can't think of a way to put it more politely. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 19:27:04 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 30 17:11:24 2017. In japan they have women only subway cars... you know... safe zones... |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 19:35:04 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 19:27:04 2017. They had them on the H&M waaaay back in the day, but that's been considered quaint since before my time. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Dec 30 19:41:49 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. It's not unanimously accepted as a good idea |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 20:35:15 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. Here's MY final solution ( pun intended, accompanied by an emoji so not to invoke Poe's law) 😃Deport all foreigners from Berlin, Germany, Europe. Problem solved. If problems still persist, deport all ethnic non-Germans. There ya go! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 20:38:35 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 20:35:15 2017. Your proposal has already been suggested 80 to 90 years ago and definitely rejected. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 20:57:42 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 20:38:35 2017. If only the non-ethnic-Germans were simply deported. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 21:01:31 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 19:35:04 2017. It says so right in the name: Hombres y Mujeres. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:10:08 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 20:38:35 2017. How's THAT working out for Germany nowadays? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 21:12:05 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:10:08 2017. #1 economy in Europe? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:12:24 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 20:57:42 2017. ONLY if they don't behave! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 21:14:15 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:12:24 2017. SMDH |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:25:38 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 21:12:05 2017. This thread is about safety, NOT the economy. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:26:50 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 21:14:15 2017. In agreement? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 21:28:19 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:25:38 2017. Ok, the US murder rate is 6 times higher than in Germany. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:33:12 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 21:28:19 2017. See title. ^^^^ |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 21:41:39 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 20:57:42 2017. I'm referring to 80-90 years ago. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:51:12 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 21:41:39 2017. I know! |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 21:56:37 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:25:38 2017. Poorly vetted immigrants are causing a crime problem in Germany. It is however a small crime problem relative to the overall US crime problem. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 22:07:22 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:33:12 2017. Berlin is in Germany, congrats you learned some geography today |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:12:34 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 19:18:08 2017. So in Berlin. If that society can not or will not count on the restraints of civilization to prevent mass violence against women in a celebration, we may need to offer women a "cage," not to keep them in, but to keep the thugs out.I can't think of a way to put it more politely. No need to put it more politely. In performing a major humanitarian act, Germany inadvertently let in a whole bunch of thugs. Now Germany has to figure out the best way of preventing the thugs from doing more damage without destroying the political progress it has made in the last 100 years. The "cages" obviously aren't an ideal approach, and they may not even be a good approach. But maybe they are a good short term solution. They are certainly a better short term solution than returning to authoritarianism. In the longer term, the goal has to be to make it clear to the thugs that their behavior will not be tolerated, and that there will be severe penalties for engaging in it. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:13:12 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 22:07:22 2017. Except when it's in New Hampshire. :) |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:24:25 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by SLRT on Sat Dec 30 20:57:42 2017. No. I had family members who had Prussian ancestry dating back 200 years who were deported in 1939. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 30 22:28:25 2017, in response to Berlin "Safe Zone" thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 30 16:23:59 2017. Women celebrate the same as men. Just without the harassment. Without being gawked at, propositioned unwantingly, and generlly hassled for simply being in the room. Something like being civilized. There's a serious need for it. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Dec 30 22:55:06 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:13:12 2017. There's one in New York, too! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:11:14 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 21:56:37 2017. Nevertheless, my solution is still accurate. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:14:20 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 22:07:22 2017. Oh really? WOW, I had NO idea! What's next, someone's gonna tell me that Ponce is in Puerto Rico?! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:18:16 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:12:34 2017. Returning to Authoritarianism is a better solution than having the indigenous natives resort to being put in cages. The P.C. ideology is keeping the animals OUT of the cages, but the Germans in? Um..yeah, no. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 01:46:29 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:14:20 2017. Then stop saying stupid shit |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 01:47:52 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:18:16 2017. When americans support ideologies that arent american. I think ISIS and you have quite a bit in common |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 01:51:35 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 01:46:29 2017. What am I saying that's stupid? First off, if you don't like my harsh responses to you, you shouldn't be opening up your cocksucker in the conversation to begin with! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 01:56:40 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 01:47:52 2017. I think someone that supports native populations in cages are more aligned with Isis ideology. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Dec 31 02:33:15 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Dec 30 22:07:22 2017. Here you fucking mental midget. Maybe you can learn somethingUnited States[edit] Berlin, California, the former name of Genevra, California Berlin, Connecticut Berlin (Amtrak station), rail station in Berlin, Connecticut Berlin, Georgia Berlin, Illinois Berlin, Indiana, extinct town Berlin, Kansas Berlin, Kentucky Berlin, Maryland Berlin, Massachusetts Berlin, Michigan (disambiguation) Berlin, Nebraska, a former name of Otoe, Nebraska Berlin, Nevada, a ghost town Berlin, New Hampshire Berlin, New Jersey Berlin, New York Berlin, former name of Dunton (LIRR station), New York Berlin, North Dakota Berlin, Holmes County, Ohio Berlin, Williams County, Ohio Berlin, Pennsylvania Berlin, Tennessee, unincorporated town Berlin, Texas, an unincorporated community Berlin, Vermont Berlin, West Virginia Berlin, Wisconsin, a city Berlin (town), Green Lake County, Wisconsin, a town Berlin, Marathon County, Wisconsin, a town Berlin Heights, Ohio |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 07:02:55 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 01:51:35 2017. No, if you dont say obvious stupid ahit you dumb fuck, I wouldnt have to correct your ignorant ass |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Dec 31 10:03:48 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Dec 30 21:26:50 2017. You're missing his point, Bill. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 31 10:53:24 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 22:24:25 2017. Never mind, I see your point. Yes, the eventual outcome of the suggestions was much more extreme than the original proposals. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 31 11:20:14 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 00:18:16 2017. Returning to authoritarism=turning the whole country into a cage. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 11:34:26 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 01:56:40 2017. Suggesting authoritarianism this early in the discussion shows you haven't really thought this through. Authoritarian rule puts everyone in a cage and is beyond the last resort. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 11:56:10 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 11:34:26 2017. If you go back and reread what I said, I do not tell you how many to do that. I gave you my solution. The 800-pound gorilla in the room that lots of people that don't want to discuss is Islam immigrants who don't want to assimilate to German ways and customs. These followers expect the Germans to accommodate their worldview |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 11:58:59 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 31 07:02:55 2017. You were showing your stupidity again because you don't even know what the original fridge subject is about, you're going off on your own here. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 12:02:55 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 31 10:03:48 2017. Dave, I'm not. I'm just having some fun with him. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 31 12:04:32 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 12:02:55 2017. I agree. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 12:05:12 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 31 11:20:14 2017. My solution is better. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Dec 31 12:07:36 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 12:02:55 2017. Then I misunderstood, sorry. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 12:09:35 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 11:56:10 2017. What I find comical is that people think that Germans can't solve this. Yes, safe zones are stupid but they're probably some municipal employee's idea to make his or her job easier, rather than dope out a long term solution. And that doesn't include going full Hitler. The last hijacking attempt in Germany was over in under a minute with all hijackers killed. Nobody went full Hitler then and they won't now. They'll fix it; they always do. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 31 12:10:18 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 31 12:05:12 2017. Disgusting. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 31 12:22:19 2017, in response to Re: Berlin ''Safe Zone'' thread, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 31 12:09:35 2017. I would find it comical if it weren't so dangerous. There are significant minorities in every country who want to go full Hitler, and BB and others egg them on. |
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