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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:46:36 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 16 14:41:01 2017.

But DT is FAR from Alt-Right, hell, even Right for that matter.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 14:47:26 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:46:22 2017.

Nobody is proposing that they should be represented by two or three major city's viewpoints.






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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:47:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 14:21:57 2017.

I don't think I will get that, but me too! LOL. Although granted, it's no longer my primary vehicle.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:48:18 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 13:32:48 2017.

What anti-First Amendment rhetoric? Do you even know what the First Amendment says?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:48:55 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Feb 16 14:43:52 2017.

What does that have to do with free speech? Even though I agree 100% that they should be married civilly.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 16 14:49:20 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Feb 15 16:13:19 2017.

If he gets impeached, then that is that. But then the left will get Mike Pence, who is a religious nut. I promise you that they will be even more upset with him.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:49:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:36:53 2017.

Those damn facts!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:50:26 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:34:01 2017.

And I owned it since 2003, so it's not like I got it that way..... :)

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:51:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:38:14 2017.

Their vote does count more! How else is 62,985,106 considered greater than 65,853,625?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:53:22 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:20:10 2017.

I wish that had happened so that the electoral college could finally be abolished. It will take bipartisan support.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:54:44 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 14:43:04 2017.

Being a brusque, NYC smart-ass, egotistical businessman who is blunt is HARDLY reason to compare him to Hitler.

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:55:23 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:46:22 2017.

The population of NY and LA is collectively about 12 million. The population of the whole country is about 320 million.

Sorry, but NY and LA do not represent the majority of the country. Even if they did, that would be no reason to underenfranchise them.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:56:25 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:43:28 2017.

Exactly. Most of the people in my neighborhood voted for DT according to the media. It's a neighborhood in Brooklyn.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:58:40 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:11:46 2017.

People have used protests as excuses to break shit for a long time. Nothing has changed in that regard and you know full well that the legitimate Democrats know that the idiots make them look bad.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:59:08 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 14:20:15 2017.

Exactly.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:59:22 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 14:20:15 2017.

There's also the wasted vote effect.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Feb 16 14:59:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:43:28 2017.

Not at all, not everyone in New York City for example votes to the left.

And not everyone in Mississippi (or Florida, or Michigan) votes Republican. So why should either be winner take all?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:01:29 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:55:23 2017.

And out of the 320 million, how many are eligible to vote? Out of those eligible to vote, how many actually DID vote? Then take into consideration the Johnson/Stein voters.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:02:14 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:54:44 2017.

You are correct. That is not only hardly a reason to compare him to Hitler, it is NOT a reason to compare him to Hitler.

Attempting to scapegoat the problems of our nation on specific ethnicities is a reason to compare him to Hitler.

Attempting to overrule the Judicial and legislative bodies of this nation are reasons to compare him to Hitler.

ETC.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 16 15:02:18 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:58:40 2017.

Unfortunately, legitimate Democrats have no way to shut these people up or keep them from breaking stuff.




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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 16 15:03:05 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:01:29 2017.

You're just making Spider-Pig's point stronger.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:03:45 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:48:18 2017.

It doesn't talk.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 15:04:12 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Feb 16 14:28:45 2017.

Yes, but the right isn't the side that claims to be (for better or worse).

The left does.

The diffrerence is, the rightists may come and stab you, but the leftists will smile in your face, and then when you turn around stab you.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 15:05:27 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:01:29 2017.

That's not the point. Unless you believe that people in NY and LA are more likely to vote.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:06:09 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 16 14:49:20 2017.

Pence is worse, agreed.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 15:06:37 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 14:29:55 2017.

Ridiculous. It makes any other argument you or others who do that seem even less credible.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:06:54 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 14:53:22 2017.

It CERTAINLY will not be going anywhere after THIS election! No one would want to take the General Election (sheeple) results prima facie!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:07:42 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 15:06:37 2017.

You have long ago made it clear that you have no judgement of credibility.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:08:19 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:07:42 2017.

This is true.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:10:03 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:02:14 2017.

When did he scapegoat specific ethnicities?

He won't and can't overrule them. He knows it, he's just grandstanding to his voter base. Come on man! You should know that!! "I tried folks, but THEY overruled me!"

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 15:10:26 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:06:54 2017.

If you don't want popular elections, then why even bother? Just have Congress elect the president and be done with it.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:11:17 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:30:44 2017.

Still not unhinged. Not like FEMA camps. Or Obama not a citizen.

This is the first I've heard of anyone complaining about the curtains lol

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:12:47 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:06:54 2017.

why not? that's democracy, one person, one vote.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:15:04 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:10:03 2017.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:15:14 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:10:03 2017.

It's what a person says that counts, not what you rationalize afterward.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Feb 16 15:25:37 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 16 14:49:20 2017.

I actually agree both Trump and Pence is crazy. Yrump os crazy but making it up as he goes along politically speaking. Pence is crazy but has the experience and knowledge to know EXACTLY what he's doing. That's worse.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:29:31 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:54:44 2017.

Who scapegoats many large demographics, (Judicial system, Muslims, Mexican, Media), tries to Executive Order his way around the Judicial and Legislative branches. Those are actions, not just bully talk.



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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:32:09 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:10:03 2017.

His advisors such as Flynn and Miller are outspoken bigots against Muslims, or they would not be his advisors.

Several courts have over-ruled his "Travel'(Muslim) Ban", carefully avoiding Muslim-majority nations that have sent their worst, and that he has hotels in.

Wake up.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:34:25 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:36:53 2017.

Stupid distraction by an unhinged, right winged fanatic, just like your buddy's Nordstrom tirade last week.

We don't care whose drapes are in the Oval Office.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:34:38 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by AlM on Thu Feb 16 15:03:05 2017.

How so? I don't see it.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:36:13 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 16 15:10:26 2017.

But you need the individual vote to determine which electoral votes go to who.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:37:00 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Fred G on Thu Feb 16 15:12:47 2017.

Because, have you SEEN society lately?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:38:04 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 14:36:18 2017.

Calling MSNBC and CNN "Fake News".
Calling the Bush-43 appointed Federal judge in Washington State "So-Called Judge".

The purpose is to discredit them and silence them, so that any other judge who rules against Trump will be intimidated to not do so or they will be personally singled out as well.

All out of Hitler's Playbook to consolidate power into the Executive Branch.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:39:18 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:15:04 2017.

He's talking about the country of Mexico, NOT the mexican people themselves. Just like Cuba sent us all of their problem children during the Boat Lift. It doesn't mean that the Cuban people themselves are bad.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Feb 16 15:42:32 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:32:09 2017.

I'm wide awake baby!

So, do you REALLY think that a prerequisite to be his advisor is to be a bigot against the muslims?

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by R30A on Thu Feb 16 15:43:59 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:38:04 2017.

I think it is important to point out that this is Hitler 1934, not Hitler 1939.

But we would never have seen Hitler 1939 without Hitler 1934.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Feb 16 15:44:24 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:29:31 2017.

Trump ran on the good ol Us vs Them strategy.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 15:54:30 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 16 15:34:25 2017.

LOL!! Yes, but it's the leftists that brought it up. Yes, even huffingpost. It was hilarious!

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by AlM on Thu Feb 16 15:54:50 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by ftgreeneg on Thu Feb 16 15:25:37 2017.

Pence is more dangerous for domestic politics because he could get some real damage done. Trump probably has less skill in doing damage.

Trump is more dangerous for foreign politics because he could just blunder into something really horrendous.

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Re: President Mike Pence

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Feb 16 15:55:00 2017, in response to Re: President Mike Pence, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 16 14:08:16 2017.

But if you see the representative results, such as congress, the Democrats got a bloodbath.

But Senators and Representatives, just like Electors, represent regions with wildly different populations. That's how Republicans were able to take 57 percent of House seats with 52 percent of the vote. And Democratic Senate candidates won fewer seats than Republicans while getting 5.9 million more votes. Bloodbath indeed.

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