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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 00:20:52 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 17 23:23:47 2017.

Trump with his nonexistent political experience, pussygrabbing comments, con universities, questionable links with Putin and lawsuits galore isn't by any stretch of the imagination Presidential material... Hillary's email business is child's play in comparison.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 00:23:05 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 17 23:41:18 2017.

Yes and good he will get what he deserves.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 00:31:01 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 17 23:25:37 2017.

Still makes me several grades ahead of you.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 18 01:02:11 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 00:23:05 2017.

he said cops beat him up.

He looks pretty beat up.

Markeith is the first time I've seen Keith in Afrocentric form.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 18 01:11:45 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 18 01:02:11 2017.


This name is a modern English creation, most likely combining Mark or Marcus with the Gaelic/Celtic name Keith. . . .

Last year it ranked 3,918th in the U.S. Social Security Administration list of most popular baby boy names.
Well, that is what this site claims.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:18:55 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 00:20:52 2017.

nonexistent political experience
A plus in my book.

pussygrabbing comments
As opposed to Bill Clinton's intern program?

con universities
Arguably a sign of a successful businessman.

questionable links with Putin
As opposed to Hillary Clinton who would set us on a path to war with the Russians... you know, the only guys in the world who could nuke us and have a chance at getting away with it?

lawsuits galore
No argument here.

Still a better deal though - Trump never let his maid handle state secrets...

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 01:31:03 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:18:55 2017.

I don't want to improve relations with Russia. Russia is our enemy. Fuck Russia.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Jan 18 01:38:24 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:18:55 2017.

1. It wasn't a plus when Obama was running(even though he had more experience than Trump has)...

2. He was impeached and besides what does that have to do with Hillary running for pres?

3. Signs of a con artist

4. That's a change in stance of the right. Before Trump started kissing Putin's backside the same ppl were saying the Obama admin were being too soft on the Russians esp in Russia's dealings with the Ukraine. Now that it seems Trump will go even softer it's all of the sudden ok?

5.We agree on something?...lol



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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:48:38 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 01:31:03 2017.

I put self-preservation over ideology 100% of the time. That and a lot of my close friends were Russian, growing up in Rego Park. There is no red scare anymore, communism has fallen, and the Russians spend less on their military in a year than we do in a month. We made nice with Japan it's time to do the same here, for everyone's sake.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 18 01:59:51 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:48:38 2017.

Those "Russians" in Rego Park are not Russian.

I did not know you have ties to Rego Park. I call it Rego Parkistan.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jan 18 05:59:13 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 00:31:01 2017.

ahh. tit for tat, eh? time for me to elucidate teh proceedums.

1. naghhh naghhh.

i believe i've made my point.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 18 08:29:51 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:48:38 2017.

There is no red scare anymore, communism has fallen

Not true. Never was true. The "fall" of the USSR (it voted itself out of existence, but did it go away?) is not the same as communism falling; thanks to Red China, it expanded further than at any point in human history.

and the Russians spend less on their military in a year than we do in a month

Spending is irrelevant; it's what you get for the spending.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 10:09:07 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 01:48:38 2017.

Self-preservation does not require us to play nice with Russia.

And were your friends really Russian? I hate Russia due largely to the fact that my parents are from the USSR.

We made nice with Japan because Japan is totally cool now. I have nothing against making nice with Russia if Russia were nice, but it's not. All they did was replace communism with fascism.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 10:09:44 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 18 08:29:51 2017.

LOL!

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 11:01:19 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 10:09:07 2017.

The Republican attitude toward Russia seems to have gone from one extreme to the other.

On the one hand, we should always be discussing and negotiating with Russia. They are a major country and have lots of nuclear weapons, and we should do the best we can to avoid unnecessary hostility that could provoke them into possibly dangerous actions. "Evil Empire" talk was never particularly helpful.

On the other hand, we shouldn't roll over and play dead and allow them to do things that are contrary to our interests. OK, their taking over Crimea didn't really hurt us. But it was right for us to make a big fuss because if they get too encouraged and invade a Baltic state it will destabilize Europe and that will really hurt us. Therefore we have to make it clear that they will suffer consequences such as more severe sanctions if they meddle too much in the Baltic states or Ukraine.




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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 11:34:12 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 18 11:01:19 2017.

Although I supported Russian annexation of Crimea.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 21:20:48 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 10:09:07 2017.

My friends were the children of Jewish Russians who fled the USSR. Not surprising, since while the USSR was mostly an equal-opportunity religious suppressor, they seemed to particularly have it out for that group.

But, the USSR no longer exists. Russia is just people of a common heritage fighting to survive while surrounded by countries trying to choke the life out of their economy, jihad them, and paint them as global supervillains.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 18 22:02:02 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jan 18 21:20:48 2017.

But, the USSR no longer exists

Sure about that? The current state of affairs over there is that Moscow is being led by a KGB revanchist who called the fall of the USSR "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the (20th) century" and has moved to pull all former Soviet states back into his sphere of influence. He still carries his CPSU card, and had the nerve to compare the Moral Code for the Builder of Communism to the Bible's Ten Commandments.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:36:42 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 17:40:11 2017.

Meaning no use crying over what is already done.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:41:27 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 22:54:31 2017.

Go back to class.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:44:01 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:36:42 2017.

I disagree.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:47:36 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Jan 17 23:32:14 2017.

I noticed it, but had to ask anyway.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:49:45 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 16 20:11:23 2017.

Yep! The Lefty troublemakers want to cause mayhem and destroy property BUT they do not wan't to be held accountable for their actions!

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:52:14 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:47:36 2017.

That doesn't make sense because I wasn't talking about that. "The right kind of people" referred to something else entirely.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:02:26 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:44:01 2017.

It's NOT going to change the outcome.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:03:20 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 13:52:14 2017.

I know that you meant the elite.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:25:08 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 13:49:45 2017.

???

The DC Chief of Police wants to allow lefty troublemakers to cause mayhem and destroy property without being caught. Do you have any backup for that very strong statement?



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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 19 14:40:30 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:25:08 2017.

LOL!!!!

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 14:58:15 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:02:26 2017.

Nobody says it will. But I would like to change future outcomes.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 19 15:00:06 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 19 14:03:20 2017.

No, actually, I wasn't. Do you think I believe that the elite elected Trump and the Republicans? And even if you did, that still wouldn't make sense.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 19 15:07:28 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:25:08 2017.

how else do you explain this decision?

Someone is conspiring against police here.

The Left now realizes that THEIR behavior can now be documented and they want to press the DELETE button or not record at all.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:15:27 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 19 15:07:28 2017.

Someone is conspiring against police here.

Who could possibly have given the order to turn off cameras other than a high DC police official?





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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 19 15:17:25 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:15:27 2017.

Where would they get the directive from?

A politician most likely.

It's obvious why someone would want to turn off the cameras.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:36:32 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 19 15:17:25 2017.

Have you considered the possibility that most of the story is pretty much a fake?



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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jan 19 15:49:48 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 15:36:32 2017.

#fakenews ?

Ok. But I'll bet you that most of the protesters and Hillary voters would agree that in this event the cams should be off.

We live in a hashtag society. That's how people think.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jan 19 21:30:20 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 17:17:52 2017.

Wonder where Mr Rightie's answer is?

Jimmymc25

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jan 20 15:30:56 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 19 14:25:08 2017.

Actually, it was a judge.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests - REVERSED

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 20 17:24:43 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Jan 20 15:30:56 2017.

Just noticed it was reversed at the last minute.

Apparently someone actually looked at the law the ACLU had invoked to get them to turn it off and found that recording the protesters was not illegal if the intent was not to track the identities of peaceful protesters.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests - REVERSED

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 20 17:59:03 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests - REVERSED, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 20 17:24:43 2017.

Interesting.

And the American Communist Litigation Union is never out for anything good.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests - REVERSED

Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 20 18:25:28 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests - REVERSED, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jan 20 17:24:43 2017.


Apparently someone actually looked at the law the ACLU had invoked to get them to turn it off and found that recording the protesters was not illegal if the intent was not to track the identities of peaceful protesters.


Snopes already had that several days ago. I have my doubts about this whole story.





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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 01:36:05 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 18 11:34:12 2017.

I do too.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 02:16:44 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:39:23 2017.

Leftists voted for The Bern, not Hillary.

Then many of them stayed home on Election Day. The really idiotic ones voted for Jill Stein.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Jan 22 03:54:23 2017, in response to DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 16 17:34:27 2017.

Sorry, the Magic Question Mark made the body cameras always have been there retroactively.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 10:08:48 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 18 22:02:02 2017.

The USSR fell completely because of an ill-timed, failed military coup. Communism would have ended even if the union had remained together. Gorbachev had a plan to convert the SSRs into things more closely resembling our states. The name was to change to "The Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics" so that the acronyms would hold in both languages (USSR, CCCP, SU). Before the coup, nine of the remaining SSRs were in favor of this change. After, they feared that the military might try again and steal back control, so they left the union using the exit clause. I might add, that even the iron-fisted Soviet Union provided a legal means for the members to leave. This is something none of our states in the "land of the free" are allowed to do.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 12:55:58 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 22 02:16:44 2017.

That’s because of foolish claims by many that Trump had “no chance” of winning.

This country deserves what happens to it.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 22 12:57:19 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 12:55:58 2017.

I do agree with that. The left took for granted. It burned them.
But then again, they often take for granted.

That all said though, Hillary spent 8 times the amount on campaigning that Trump did. I wonder what would have happened it there was a level playing field on spending.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 13:30:28 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 10:08:48 2017.

I probably would have liked that. My main “beef” with the USSR was the communism. I consider my ancestry to be “Soviet” and not “Russian.” I only use the latter to avoid the association with communism. But if I were to visit any of the homelands of my ancestors, I would never set foot in the Russian Federation.*

*My father was born in the RSFSR but that was sort of an exile.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 15:00:31 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 22 13:30:28 2017.

My beef with the USSR was three fold:
1. The way dissent was suppressed and silenced. Using the Gulags for political activists.
2. Failing to feed their own people.
3. Their treatment of the Jews and other groups as literal second class citizens (banned from certain topics of study in University and certain jobs).

The entire place was on its way to becoming North Korea / the Hunger Games (depending on where you thought it would go), and the people were not happy about it.

Gorbachev was trying to fix it without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The free travel and unified monetary and defense system for the entire region was basically what the EU is trying to keep together. Since the SSRs were to gain more of a say, "Russia" would have simply had a few seats at a larger table, rather than holding all the keys to the region (by virtue of being the largest). The FSU will likely never see that kind of unity and cooperation again.

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Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 00:49:39 2017, in response to Re: DC Police forbidden to use body cameras at Inauguration Day protests, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Jan 22 15:00:31 2017.

Brezhnev's USSR was not North Korea/The Hunger Games.

Like Supply-Side Economics, Communism is a failed economic doctrine and just as anti-human.

When the price of oil dropped in the 80's, so did the Soviet Union's ability to still be a world player. Throw in the nationalisms and that house of sand collapsed very quickly.



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