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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 12 00:14:31 2016

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Can anybody answer my question clearly and concisely? Why is it that when the 4 victims of the Clinton's sexual shens had the chance to be interviewed by all of the major news outlets, NONE of the reporters for any of them chose to do it, with the exception of Hannity of FOX? I mean, we ALL know the answer, but I would like to hear it from one of the many classic "New York Liberals" who are here. MSNBC,CNN, ABC, etc.. had the PERFECT opportuntiy for these women to get out to the public what had happened to them, and what Killery did to them after she found out. Don't you agree?

Bueller....Bueller....Bueller....

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Posted by MTK52983 on Wed Oct 12 05:18:32 2016, in response to Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 12 00:14:31 2016.

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1) Bill Clinton is not running for President

2) We know that all Hillary said was words. She didn't rape anybody. We do not know if Trump actually committed the actions he bragged about in "locker room talk"

3) It actually helps Donald Trump to focus on Hillary Clinton's other issues because talking about what Hillary Clinton said in reaction to Bill Clinton's actions keeps the "Grab 'em by the pussy" tape in the news. If I am the Trump campaign, I would rather have them reporting about the missing e-mails, the comments turned up in WikiLeaks, etc.

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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Wed Oct 12 05:56:09 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by MTK52983 on Wed Oct 12 05:18:32 2016.

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She wiped the e- mails "AFTER" getting a SUBPOENA ! WHAT !

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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 07:24:21 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by MTK52983 on Wed Oct 12 05:18:32 2016.

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(1) +100

(2) We have as much or more corroborating evidence that Trump committed sexual assault (claims by women they were groped without their consent) as we have evidence that Bill Clinton raped anyone.



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Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Wed Oct 12 07:38:09 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 07:24:21 2016.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 12 08:07:31 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 07:24:21 2016.

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Lol!!!

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 10:48:31 2016, in response to Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 12 00:14:31 2016.

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Because it's not 1997 anymore.

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Posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 12 12:01:38 2016, in response to Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 12 00:14:31 2016.

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Only three of them were related to "sexual shenanigans" (one with a completely unsubstantiated claim) WRT Bill. The fourth was a crime victim whose perp was defended by Sec Clinton many years ago.

Now I have a question for you....who paid the travel expenses for these women? brightbart or the trump campaign? Broddick claimed it wa sbrightbart. That's a crime.

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Posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 12 12:04:01 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by MTK52983 on Wed Oct 12 05:18:32 2016.

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Lots of women have been coming forward all year long with their stories regarding trump and what he grasps with his small hands.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 12 12:13:38 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 12 12:04:01 2016.

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he likes to grope women like out ex govonor here

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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 12 12:56:16 2016, in response to Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Oct 12 00:14:31 2016.

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The First Spouse is not a ballot row.

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Re: Question

Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 13:22:53 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 10:48:31 2016.

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IAWTP with 1997 being replaced by 1992.

If Juanita Broaddrick had come out with her claims in 1991 or early 1992, they would have been incredibly relevant and would have gotten very close attention. It is quite possible that Bill Clinton would never have been elected president.





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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 14:22:06 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 13:22:53 2016.

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I would vote for George Bush over a rapist.

I would vote for a rapist over Donald Trump.

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Posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:07:30 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 13:22:53 2016.

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If Juanita Broaddrick had come out with her claims in 1991 or early 1992, they would have been incredibly relevant and would have gotten very close attention. It is quite possible that Bill Clinton would never have been elected president.


Is her allegation that Hillary Clinton attempted to intimidate her into silence after the alleged rape not relevant to the 2016 campaign?

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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:20:53 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:07:30 2016.

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Yes, in a tertiary way. Even if Hillary said exactly the words that she is quoted as saying, they could be taken many ways. There is more evidence that Trump called for the assassination of Clinton than there is that Clinton intimidated Broaddrick.



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Posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:34:17 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:20:53 2016.

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I suspect that women's groups would strongly disagree with your interpretation

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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:38:49 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:34:17 2016.

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Hmm. Clinton supposedly said something to Broaddrick about thanking her. Broaddrick supposedly took it as intimidation. No independent witnesses.

Trump said on TV that the Second Amendment folks might be able to do something about Clinton.

What are you smoking? There is no comparison.




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Posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:47:58 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:38:49 2016.

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I don't think anyone seriously thinks Trump was making a call for an assasination attempt. If they could he would be behind bars right now. As you point out, there were plenty of witnesses. This is just political hype

Women's groups, on the other hand, take the attempt to intimidate and/or silence victims very seriously. And as one might imagine, real threats tend to happen when there are no witnesses

But the Clintons operate under special rules

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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:59:58 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:47:58 2016.

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You're changing your claim. I was discussing the quantity of evidence and you claimed to refute my assertion that there was more evidence against Trump than against Clinton.

Now you are saying of course there wouldn't be any evidence against Clinton.





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Posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 12 16:15:34 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 14:22:06 2016.

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I'd vote George Bush over Donald Trump as well.

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Posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 16:21:01 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:59:58 2016.

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What claim did I make? And where did I then change that claim?

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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 16:29:48 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 16:21:01 2016.

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AlM: There is more evidence that Trump called for the assassination of Clinton than there is that Clinton intimidated Broaddrick.

Charles G: I suspect that women's groups would strongly disagree with your interpretation

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Charles G: real threats tend to happen when there are no witnesses


So you are now agreeing with my original assertion in a backhanded kind of way.




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Posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 17:21:35 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 16:29:48 2016.

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You have quite selectively edited your quotes. Let me help you.

AlM: Even if Hillary said exactly the words that she is quoted as saying, they could be taken many ways. There is more evidence that Trump called for the assassination of Clinton than there is that Clinton intimidated Broaddrick.

Charles G: I suspect that women's groups would strongly disagree with your interpretation


If Hillary said exactly the words she is quoted as saying, women's groups would certainly argue that Clinton was attempting to intimidate Broaddrick.

Even if you omit your "Even if..." qualifier, there cannot be more evidence that Trump called for the assassination of Clinton because there is zero evidence that he did any such thing. The statements you reference were made in public and picked up by thousands and perhaps millions of people. If there were any evidence whatsoever that he was actually calling for an assassination attempt, he would be facing charges.

When you make statements like that, you've just fallen into the parroting the talking points trap. You're usually better than that. If anything has happened in this evening's discourse, it is that you have attempted to avoid answering the original question I posed to you by attempting to change the subject. It did not go unnoticed.






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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 12 17:29:36 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 15:59:58 2016.

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I assuming that if you ever appear on Dancing With The Stars, your specialty will be tap dancing.

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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 12 22:29:43 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:47:58 2016.

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Charles G. Another Trump voter.

Which basket?

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 12 23:46:16 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 12 16:15:34 2016.

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Me too.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 02:47:20 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Wed Oct 12 05:56:09 2016.

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Of COURSE she did!

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Posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 13 02:48:17 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 12 22:29:43 2016.

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Hardly a Trump voter. But very realistic about who Hillary Clinton is and what she will potentially bring to the White House.

People like me will be fine with a Clinton presidency -- probably better than fine. People who really need an improvement in their daily position or long- term outlook. Not so much. What's her public position and what's her private position _ say anything. Not that different from Trump in some odd way. She's just more careful about what she says in front of who....

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Posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 13 02:48:17 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 12 22:29:43 2016.

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Hardly a Trump voter. But very realistic about who Hillary Clinton is and what she will potentially bring to the White House.

People like me will be fine with a Clinton presidency -- probably better than fine. People who really need an improvement in their daily position or long- term outlook. Not so much. What's her public position and what's her private position _ say anything. Not that different from Trump in some odd way. She's just more careful about what she says in front of who....

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:04:18 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 12 07:24:21 2016.

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Oh, I'm SURE DT spent the last 40 years living in lechery. I don't refute that. but the ACTUAL women (save for the 12 year old rape victim) were THERE to be interviewed so we can hear their story FIRSTHAND about how HRC treated them! No one wanted to touch that story with a 10 foot pole! Except FOX. THAT is my issue here.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:06:04 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 12 12:04:01 2016.

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And the Media SHOULD be covering it! BUT they ignore the negativity about Hillary for the most part.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:11:42 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 10:48:31 2016.

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That's like saying in regard to the Trump audio, it's not 2005 anymore.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:12:22 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 14:22:06 2016.

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Why?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:12:32 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 12 14:22:06 2016.

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Why?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:13:08 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 12 16:15:34 2016.

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Which one? Daddy was MUCH better.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 13 03:14:28 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:13:08 2016.

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Nah, he wasn't.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:15:45 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:47:58 2016.

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Yep!

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:16:41 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Wed Oct 12 15:07:30 2016.

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You'll NEVER know by the way the 2016 Media ignores it!

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:18:00 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 13 02:48:17 2016.

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Her presidency will not really affect my life either.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:19:44 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by bingbong on Wed Oct 12 12:01:38 2016.

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Yes, I know one was the 12 year old rape victim.

I don't know who payed for it.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:20:10 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 12 12:56:16 2016.

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Uh... Go back and re-read my statement.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:44:46 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 13 03:14:28 2016.

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You REALLY think that Junior was better than Daddy?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 13 08:03:31 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:11:42 2016.

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Trump is running for president in 2016. Bill Clinton is not.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 13 08:04:45 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:13:08 2016.

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Either one.

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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 13 08:28:10 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 13 02:48:17 2016.

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People who really need an improvement in their daily position or long- term outlook. Not so much.

I agree. But none of the other 21+ candidates would have helped them any more. John Kasich or Bernie Sanders, much less Trump, couldn't reverse globalization and automation.

Not that different from Trump in some odd way.

Trump might actually push for massive import tariffs. That would be a world economic disaster. Of course, one doesn't actually know and hopefully will never know whether Trump would do that or not.



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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Oct 13 08:53:47 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 13 08:03:31 2016.

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Yes, that may be true but Bill Clinton's sleezeball attitude and alleged criminal behavior with regard to women did not prevent him from doing an acceptable job as president.

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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 13 09:35:12 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by Charles G on Thu Oct 13 02:48:17 2016.

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People who really need an improvement in their daily position or long- term outlook. Not so much.

Give me an example of how Trump would improve the lives of people who are down on their luck.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 13 10:34:45 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Oct 13 08:53:47 2016.

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Yes. Which is why I'd vote for a rapist before I'd vote for Trump.

I don't think that Trump said anything wrong on that bus, but if it helps defeat him, then good. Anything short of violence or fraud that helps defeat Trump is fine with me.

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Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 13 12:34:49 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:06:04 2016.

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Hillary has nothing to do with trump's behavior. Unless he tried to grope her too.

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Posted by bingbong on Thu Oct 13 12:39:22 2016, in response to Re: Question, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Oct 13 03:04:18 2016.

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Could be because its old and tired.

Could be because Bill is not running for President.

Could be that it is completely irrelevant.

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