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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:48:52 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 22 14:46:12 2016. Way more complex. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:48:56 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:48:15 2016. you are in texassss tell me how they get away with this |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:51:25 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:48:56 2016. You're not answering my question. How does an employer legally pay a sub-minimum wage? Give me the name of an employer in Texas that you know is paying a sub-minimum wage. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 22 14:52:21 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:47:22 2016. Lots of factory workers still starting at $10/hour even today. How about, instead of raising minimum wage while devaluing the currency, bringing back the value of the dollar resulting in the purchasing power of wages increasing? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:52:57 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:47:22 2016. That's the typical right wing response, but there remains a need for workers at the bottom of the scale. If every worker were qualified for a better position, then it would only result in over-qualified workers at the bottom. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 15:00:25 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:52:57 2016. Not every worker will be but some are. Work hard and demonstrate ability to move up the ladder; most franchisees at fast food restaurants I know will kill for motivated workers. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 15:10:45 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 22 14:52:21 2016. Yeah let's double the value of the already strong dollar by raising interest rates to 20%.That would be so great for the economy. Nothing like cheap imports, expensive exports to spur domestic manufacturing, right? I love the smell of a Depression in the morning. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 15:12:53 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 15:00:25 2016. Yeah, with a national minimum wage at $7.25/hr, those hard workers will quickly be promoted to $8.45 and finally live comfortably. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 15:23:51 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:51:25 2016. You and he are using different definitions of the term "sub-minimum." |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Aug 22 15:25:06 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:05:02 2016. You really are a mutt |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 15:27:33 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 15:23:51 2016. well |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Aug 22 15:29:01 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:52:57 2016. By typical right wing, you mean "honest", don't you? Or do you really believe that all people should be paid according to their need regardless of their ability? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 15:29:02 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Aug 22 15:25:06 2016. you are a nut |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 15:48:38 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Aug 22 15:29:01 2016. Where, in any of my posts did I ever express that opinion? Or are you just making shit up? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 16:03:48 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 15:23:51 2016. No we're not. Salaam means less than minimum wage and so do I. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 16:06:35 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 15:12:53 2016. Keep in mind that those jobs were originally intended (back in the 1960's and 1970's) for kids working summer jobs and after school; they were never meant for full-time adults trying to support a family. Think back to the 1970's - when did you ever see an adult behind the counter other than the manager or assistant manager? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:08:55 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:44:53 2016. Let's see some links, I'm too busy to hunt. Will let you know then. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands lately. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:19:14 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:46:11 2016. No, your people magazine link about Colin Powell saying Hillary Clinton had been using a private email server for a year before she became Sec of State, denying it was his advice given at a dinner for the "new diplomat" in DC when she started the job crashed my browser.Read what people write and you'll be far more correct Dave. Why are you always wrong? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 16:22:08 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 16:06:35 2016. The 70's were four decades ago.If you wanna go Full 70's, are you gonna come out in favor of 25% union density in the private sector? Didn't think so. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 16:42:37 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 15:48:38 2016. I'm asking for you to clarify what you mean by a "right wing position ". |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 16:44:07 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:08:55 2016. Links = sausages. Are you still hungry? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 16:45:02 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 16:22:08 2016. I would. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 17:05:30 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 16:22:08 2016. It's less than 7% now so yeah, I would. I used to be a member of the IAM. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 17:14:17 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:08:55 2016. You're too busy to hunt...LOL! You spend as much time posting here as I do and I'm retired! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 17:24:19 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 16:42:37 2016. No, you're not. You're accusing me of saying something that I didn't say in the interest of "argumentum ad Marxum," instead of responding to what I actually did say, which was 100% clear. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Aug 22 17:38:56 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 21 21:30:00 2016. In terms of purchasing power, it is a reduced wage since it has not kept pace with inflation. The $2.50 that it was in the mid-late 1970's would be about $10 - $11 today.As far as devalued currency goes, unless you are converting to foreign currency for a trip, so what ? We are about the same against Canada as last year, about 77 cents, which is much better than at the height of the financial collapse in the 2009 - 2011 period when it was on par and up to $1.07. The dollar has done fairly well. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 17:56:57 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 17:24:19 2016. Obviously not or I wouldn't ask |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 18:14:22 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 17:56:57 2016. You didn't ask, except for a loaded question. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 18:26:54 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 07:22:10 2016. I have the penthouse at the Robot Arms. :)
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 18:27:24 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 07:24:45 2016. Because unlike you right wingers, I actually care about the problem and want to fix it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 18:28:35 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 07:21:21 2016. Hardly. Why replace a ten cent part when you can replace a ten thousand dollar module? We just pass the savings along to you. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 18:52:40 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 18:26:54 2016. Bite my shiny metal ass! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 18:56:01 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 18:28:35 2016. I assumed the inoperative module was repaired and reused. That's what Sears does with appliance parts. Dell does the same thing with components replaced under warranty. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:21:55 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 16:06:35 2016. this is not the 1970s anymore !!!you are living in the past |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:22:38 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:19:14 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:30:07 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 16:22:08 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by MTK52983 on Mon Aug 22 19:30:21 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:21:55 2016. If it were the 1970's you would be knowingly giving a false address on your draft forms in order to evade being drafted unlike people like Dave, who filled it out accurately and would have served if called. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:32:51 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by MTK52983 on Mon Aug 22 19:30:21 2016. he did not serve thats my point and prob wound not go to vietnami refused to register for a wrong war !!! and i refuse to murder innocent people takes more GUTS to do that |
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Posted by MTK52983 on Mon Aug 22 19:35:34 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:32:51 2016. It doesn't take guts to lie. It takes guts to register knowing that you may be called up and die. Didn't Humayun Khan teach you anything? It takes guts to do what he did. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 19:36:45 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 18:52:40 2016. 
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:44:01 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by MTK52983 on Mon Aug 22 19:35:34 2016. yes it does and especially when the country is wrong racist against you specifically and you get no justice at all nowhere at allmuhammad ali was my hero and i refused to go just like he did and for all the good reasons he stated why he did not go into military service so there |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:44:47 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 19:30:07 2016. Hey Stumpy, 25% is more than three times the current union membership participation (7%) in the workforce. Glad you agree with me on this. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 22 21:46:47 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 21 22:36:05 2016. Hah...and you seems so damn sure..cocky even...to be ABSOLUTELY,wrong. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:46:47 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by MTK52983 on Mon Aug 22 19:35:34 2016. What Stumpy isn't telling you is that NOI encouraged their members to NOT register for the draft. It was part of their message to Whitey that they wouldn't fight in the white man's war, blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:50:33 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:44:47 2016. hey davey from texasss you dont have that in texasssssss |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:50:58 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Edwards! on Mon Aug 22 21:46:47 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:51:55 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:46:47 2016. hey davey from texasss i was not in the nation of islam in 1971LOL !! man you are so clueless davey from texassss |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:55:58 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:50:33 2016. Don't have what in Texas, Stump? Unions? Yes we do. Why do you thing the National Labor Relations Board has a regional office in Ft. Worth, Stumpy? There are plenty of union members in the state, Stumpy. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:56:54 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:51:55 2016. Oh, then that's even worse! You can't even claim you didn't register because you were following your religion...you didn't register because you were chicken shit! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 21:57:19 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 21:55:58 2016. amazing in that hell hole for workers rights in your right to work snake of texassss |
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