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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 07:27:21 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 22 00:33:16 2016. Seattle suburbs |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 09:12:56 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 07:27:21 2016. LOL. It's going to be a long time before Bellevue, Renton, Kent, or Federal Way take on a city-like vibe. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Aug 22 09:20:53 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 22 02:51:19 2016. ...and if everyone treated each other fairly regardless of any particular group (gender/ethnicity/race and so on)... There would be no need for protections, being political correct and so on. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:25:37 2016, in response to Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 21 14:30:28 2016. so what?Better to have an extra 1/2 percent of unemployment among the poorest but greater purchasing power from everyone else. The overall effect on demand and society is a positive one |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:28:19 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 22 07:06:32 2016. He's still made at Thomas Edison and George Westinghouse for putting the gaslight industry out of business. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:30:46 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 22 02:33:42 2016. The same one they play now.Did you use a carrier pigeon to have your message/post read by several people on this board? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 09:33:45 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:28:19 2016. What about the weavers who don't have jobs any more? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:44:44 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 09:33:45 2016. and those unfortunate telegraphers.Gee, thanks Obama! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 09:56:36 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 22 02:38:07 2016. What repair mechanics? For example, mobile ordering and mobile checkout, which will be the main beneficiaries of high minimum wage actually require less machinery to repair. The computer that tells employees which orders to prepare is unchanged while cash registers are removed. Meanwhile an automated kiosk is not more complicated than the cash register that it replaces, except for the cash-accepting module.It mildly annoys me that I have to tell someone the order that I want for the sole purpose of him/her entering that order into a machine when I can do it myself. It's like an elevator operator in a modern push-button elevator. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 22 10:12:53 2016, in response to Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 21 14:30:28 2016. Wow, this looks like another Obamacare thread. All of the people who will never be effected by it, and don't care about those who do, posting and copying and pasting gibberish in defense of insane politicans. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 10:57:55 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 21 23:23:25 2016. without bothering to read its story, which invariably names the original source material that the reporter is writing about.Thank you for proving the whole point. If the writer is writing ABOUT something, it's NOT news, it is OPINION. Which means YOU are doing same as all the echochamber outlets (which include the "Washington Examiner" which is NOT a news outlet, nor a newspaper, they are an online hive of "reporters", they even offered me a job) in conflating OPINION as FACT. Then you wonder whyI say your links are worthless. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 11:04:07 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 09:25:37 2016. So true. The added consumer demand will help to produce jobs for those still unemployed. It's the lack of demand that has been stunting the economy, not lack of productivity or shortage of anything. Companies are sitting on cash. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 11:14:09 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 11:04:07 2016. So typical. Had I posted "Better to have an extra 1/2 percent of unemployment among the poorest" you would have posted one of your typical hissy fit posts about RWers not caring about the poor, ad naseum. But when one of your LW buddies posts it, not only do you agree but you take it to the next level.Hypocritical much? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 11:18:30 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 11:14:09 2016. But you don't care about the poor. You posted that as if it was fact to begin with, when it was just an opinion piece by some blogger that made all of fifty bucks since they published it. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 11:20:19 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 10:57:55 2016. LOL moron |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:00:00 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 10:57:55 2016. Are you really this dumb or are you being deliberately obtuse? The reporter was writing about a University of Washington study on the effect of the $15 minimum. So did every other newspaper which reported the story, including your bible the NY Times. That doesn't make it an opinion piece.The Examiner offered you a job doing what - emptying the trash bins? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:04:33 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 11:18:30 2016. You know less than nothing. The articles written about the UW study that appears in other newspapers, like the NY Times - were they also written by bloggers?LOL! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:34:26 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 09:56:36 2016. IAWTP |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:36:42 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:00:00 2016. Writing. Sod off.They pay bloggers fifty bucks for a published piece. Virtual business, has no office. Don't you know anything? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:38:56 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:04:33 2016. Got a Times link? I subscribe, so I would check it out.Or why didn't you just post the original report? Seems like a better idea than posting RW nonsense about it. Your bias is way too apparent. It's not the report, its the trash around it. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:40:58 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 10:57:55 2016. LOL! News articles report on the contexts on the report put out by others. That's news! They can also add their own commentary, which would be opinion. But if they are citing statements/facts/conclusions contained in the report by others, then there's no reason to necessarily disregard the immediate source as being biased. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:43:50 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:38:56 2016. It's not the report, its the trash around it.So you're claiming right here and now that the report does not say what Dave's articles say it says? Did you read the report? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:44:53 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:36:42 2016. And the other newspapers that reported on the same UW study...were they written by bloggers? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:45:18 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:40:58 2016. Thank you. Pretty obvious, isn't it? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:46:11 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:43:50 2016. Of course she didn't. She didn't even read the original article - she claims it crashed her browser. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:46:21 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:45:18 2016. Yes, very obvious. She's had this hangup for years. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:48:46 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:38:56 2016. You subscribe...LOL! I've posted before on topics the Times has written about and you've claimed they never reported it.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 12:53:50 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:38:56 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 22 13:23:15 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by WayneJay on Mon Aug 22 09:20:53 2016. how does political correctness protect people?Did you see Ghostbusters 2016? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 13:36:50 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 12:53:50 2016. That's because your brain is a floating log. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 13:48:04 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 13:36:50 2016. davey from texass you want poverty for minimum wage earnersno wonder you are in texasssss same back at ya |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 13:58:48 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 13:36:50 2016. IAWTP |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:04:52 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 13:48:04 2016. No, but I want them to have jobs with benefits, and that won't happen if they're unemployed or working reduced hours. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:05:02 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 22 13:58:48 2016. drop dead |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:05:52 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:04:52 2016. so paying them sub minimum wages is your solution ?like in texassss |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:06:01 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:04:52 2016. They're not going to have jobs with benefits. They're just not worth that much to the market. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:07:03 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:06:01 2016. these are human beings not cattle |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:09:14 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:07:03 2016. And? Why should private employers alone be forced to subsidize insufficiently productive workers? They won't. If forced to pay workers more than what the market can bear, they'll just exit the market. Some people prefer low wages to no wages. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 14:12:12 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:04:52 2016. A living wage is the greatest benefit anyone can have.Not to mention its beneficial effects on the wider community. You want to deny this to ALL low-wage workers just so an extra 1/2 percent of them can participate in the labor force. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:12:33 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:09:14 2016. how do you know all workers are non productiveand who wants a sub minimum wage and low wage ? lol |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:13:13 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 14:12:12 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:20:31 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:12:33 2016. People are paid what they're worth to the employer. If they were worth more, they'd be paid more. That's how I know how productive someone is.Somebody wants a low wage when the alternative is no wage. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:39:32 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 14:20:31 2016. how do you pay the rent on sub minimum wage |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:43:40 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:05:52 2016. Try growing a brain, Stumpy. How does any employer legally pay sub-minimum wage? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:44:28 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:39:32 2016. No one is legally being paid a sub-minimum wage. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:45:30 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:43:40 2016. why dont you start with that first !employers pay what the fuck they want to they would prefer free labor |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:45:53 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:44:28 2016. ok sure |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Aug 22 14:46:12 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:44:28 2016. Technically there are exceptions for professions like waiters who receive tips but that becomes more complex. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:47:22 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 14:12:12 2016. I think everyone should make more than $15/hour but people in the fast food industry are paid what the law requires. If they want more then they should make themselves worth more per hour. Work their way up the job ladder; for example, from the line to a team leader and eventually an assistant manager. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:48:15 2016, in response to Re: Early data show $15 minimum hurting Seattle's poor, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 22 14:45:30 2016. I ask again, how does an employer legally pay a sub-minimum wage? |
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