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Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 02:48:06 2016

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Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

The Dallas Police Department, which was struggling to recruit officers, has seen a surge in job applications after the ambush shooting this month that killed five officers and brought global attention to the Texas city, officials said on Friday.

During the 12 days following the July 7 shooting, the department said it got 467 job applications, a 344 percent increase compared with the 136 in a similar period in June.

That is an average of 38.9 requests per day to become a police recruit compared with an average of 11.3 submissions a day for 12 days in June.

In recent months, the police department has had to cancel academy classes because there were not enough applicants.

Potential officers in the north Texas region have often opted for departments in fast-growing cities surrounding Dallas where starting pay is typically higher than in Dallas.

Dallas Police Chief David Brown put out the call for new recruits at a news conference last week where he spoke of the deaths of five officers and the actions of others to save lives at a rally in the city in the incident that marked the deadliest day for U.S. law enforcement since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

"We are hiring. Get out of that protest line and put an application in," Brown said.

U.S. police forces have been the target of protests following the fatal shootings of black men by patrolmen in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and outside St. Paul, Minnesota, that were caught on video.

Further, the series of high-profile police killings of black men in the past two years have sparked the most intense debate on race and justice in America in years.

"It's a shame it took a tragedy to get people to apply, but glad to see so many people willing to serve their community," Dallas resident Ben Shaw wrote on the department's Facebook page on Friday.

(Reporting by Lisa Maria Garza in Dallas; Editing by Eric M. Johnson)

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Hey ... I've got an idea. How about offering cops a decent WAGE so you don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to hire assholes?

Anyone see what the pay grade is for cops all over the country? Ever wonder why all you get is Barney Fife assholes who shoot the wrong people and get you sued?

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 08:39:23 2016, in response to Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 02:48:06 2016.

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The starting salary for a Dallas officer right out of training is about $42,900, according to the city. Out of the 10 most populous cities in the Dallas area, that's the lowest. Most of the other cities pay between $50,000 and $55,000 for a new officer. Plano pays more than $60,000.

Ft. Worth starting salary is just over $51,000 with additional pay if the officer is bilingual, or has a college degree.

With what the cost of living is here those salaries aren't bad, especially when you factor in the benefits. And most cops earn overtime each month.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 09:17:51 2016, in response to Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 02:48:06 2016.

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Starting salary in Albany NY is between $42,000 and $56,000 as of June, 2016 so I guess you might have a few of Barney's cousins protecting and serving you too.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 10:37:35 2016, in response to Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 02:48:06 2016.

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How about offering cops a decent WAGE so you don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to hire assholes?

Agree with the first part; disagree with the last.

Democrats think everything is a matter of spending money. Like when Lindsay thought certain city apparatchiks should be paid more money to get better people. It was pointed out that L thought if he paid people with $20K jobs $40K, he would get $40K people. Instead he got $20K people getting paid $40K.

Money does not automatically guarantee quality.

As an MP, I made sergeant (E5) in 1969. I was paid ~$200 a MONTH*. Obviously, the bulk of line soldiers were paid less. I would trade many of them for any line officer in the country.

*For those who are saying "well, that was 1969" I was making more than $200 a WEEK months after separating.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 23 11:03:00 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 10:37:35 2016.

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Excellent post. In the case of police, NYPD officers are paid less to start than many of their suburban counterparts because the NYPD is more prestigious. It is the most prestigious police force in the country.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 11:27:38 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 23 11:03:00 2016.

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I think 9/11 and the work since has added enormously to the image and prestige of the NYPD. I think Comrade deB finally appreciates this after a rocky start. Among other things, listening to him on his show on New York public radio, he has become a fierce defender of oft-maligned NYPD policing policies.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jul 23 12:05:11 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 23 11:03:00 2016.

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Who here remembers when NYPD recruits, under Mayor Giuliani, made a starting salary so low, they were eligible for food stamps?

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:09:35 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 08:39:23 2016.

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Doesn't seem to be attracting the best talent at that price.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:11:43 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 09:17:51 2016.

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That's a good wage around here.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:16:46 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 10:37:35 2016.

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A cop that tries to shoot a disabled person holding a truck, misses and shoots a caretaker is absolutely an asshole. When you consider how many people these days have DD214's and are quite proficient, one has to wonder where this assclown came from.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 12:28:09 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:11:43 2016.

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Give my regards to Barney

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:42:39 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 12:28:09 2016.

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Shall do. And your license plate. :)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 12:51:35 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:42:39 2016.

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Now if you had it, that might be harassment.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:59:16 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jul 23 12:51:35 2016.

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Just make sure your turn signals work, you're not riding on bald tires, don't be littering or flipping off other motorists and Barney will let you pass. ;)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 23 13:03:15 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 10:37:35 2016.

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$1,313.56 per month in 2016 dollars. Try living on that in NY.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 23 13:10:01 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 08:39:23 2016.

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College grads willing to be cannon fodder, or sitting ducks rather, for the left's "war on cops"? Good luck with that one.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 13:38:02 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:09:35 2016.

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Why take a job for 42.9 when a few miles up the road you can get 60?

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 13:38:50 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:11:43 2016.

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And 42.9 - 60 with full benefits is a good wage down here.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 13:40:35 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 13:38:02 2016.

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Exactly. YOu get what you pay for, sometimes even less. :)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 13:41:17 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 13:38:50 2016.

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That may be true, but the job is a LOT less stressful and busy up here.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 17:45:24 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 13:41:17 2016.

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Not everyone wants to live in Pigsknuckle, NY.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 18:12:41 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 12:16:46 2016.

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And you generalize that to cops in general?

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 18:18:41 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 17:45:24 2016.

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And I can say, without reservation, that we're glad. :)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 18:24:00 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 18:12:41 2016.

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Nope. This guy was an assclown. Some members of NYPD also have not exactly shown that level of marksmanship quality on the streets of the city as well. Do I mean a majority? Of course not. But everywhere, there's some bad or dumbass cops that shouldn't be on the force.

Around here, when an idiot does make the force, they get removed pretty quickly. Should be the same elsewhere.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 18:34:00 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 18:18:41 2016.

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LOL!

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 19:48:21 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 18:18:41 2016.

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And da Bronx breathed a sigh of relief....

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 23 21:31:59 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 18:24:00 2016.

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Look, I like you, but STOP making it seem like Upstate is this Utopia where everyone has common sense, everyone votes democrat, everyone knows how to be responsible, yadda yadda yadda. I've said it before and I'll say it again, NYC, especially Brooklyn, is the GREATEST place in the world!! I'm SO glad I was born here, as opposed to being born a dumb woodchuck hick! Ok, rant over. ;) I'm SURE the local, county, and trooper barracks have their fair share of dopes as well.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 23 21:41:57 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 23 21:31:59 2016.

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+1

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 22:22:02 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 23 21:31:59 2016.

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And all the children are above average.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:43:52 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 22:22:02 2016.

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You're thinking of Minnesota, Lake Woebegone chamber of commerce. :)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:44:33 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 23 21:31:59 2016.

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They don't last long. One lawsuit can wipe out a town's annual budget, so they're a bit picky.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:49:03 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Jul 23 21:31:59 2016.

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Born in the Bronx ... wasn't so bad either. But I prefer here.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 24 09:51:22 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 23 10:37:35 2016.

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Check this out:

Democrats think everything is a matter of spending money. Like when Lindsay......

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 24 09:55:28 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 24 09:51:22 2016.

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LOL.



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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 11:30:54 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 23 22:49:03 2016.

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Born in the Bronck's. Oh, you poor man.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 24 15:05:43 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 24 09:51:22 2016.

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I didn't even notice that!

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 16:15:56 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 11:30:54 2016.

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We actually had trees. Everywhere. That's why moving upstate was a natural. :)

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 18:34:40 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 24 15:05:43 2016.

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Lindsey was a liberal nyc republican, which equated in the context of the time to an anti-Tammany Democrat.

When he decided to make a presidential bid, he became a Democrat in name as well as in fact.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 24 18:42:39 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 18:34:40 2016.

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But he was very much not a Democrat when he was mayor.


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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 24 18:43:43 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 18:34:40 2016.

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Yep, that's when the parties flipped and the republicans did their first round of dumping the sane.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 19:20:10 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 24 18:42:39 2016.

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No. He ran in 1965 as a Fusion candidate, i.e., Republican Liberal Party lines. Like Mitchell and Lagardia a before him. As I said, that was the only path to victory without the machine. Bloomberg did much the same thing. Giuliani OTOH was a true Republican.

In Lindsey's second term he ran on the Liberal Party line only.

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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 24 19:41:21 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 24 19:20:10 2016.

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Exactly. He never ran for Mayor as a Democrat. Just what I said.


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Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks

Posted by Dave on Sun Jul 24 21:52:47 2016, in response to Re: Dallas police job applications surge after fatal ambush attacks, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 24 19:41:21 2016.

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It wasn't until 1971 that he switched parties and registered as a Democrat.

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