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Re: Shooting in Dallas

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 07:44:36 2016, in response to Re: Shooting in Dallas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 8 03:13:58 2016.

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lol

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 07:45:19 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 8 00:24:31 2016.

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and innocent black people at that

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:03:32 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 8 04:22:09 2016.

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And while you claim to be too well to play, you are blowing off more frequently than most others here. Pretending to have some special insight. Claiming to live in a magic garden where this will never happen. Pretending to take the high road while using the tragedy to throw your pitiful rocks at those who hold opposite political views from your own. Bottom line, my original comments about you stand. Y op u are just an old fool.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 08:05:44 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:03:32 2016.

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he is not a old fool
nope

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:11:16 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 08:05:44 2016.

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Well, salaam, you have a right to your beliefs. Forget what he says but what do you think Selkirk really thinks about you?

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 08:12:11 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:11:16 2016.

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i read what the said

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 08:13:21 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 07:08:57 2016.

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So you really have a very poor opinion of a lot of police officers, don't you?



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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:37:01 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 08:12:11 2016.

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Read between the lines for a change.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:04:22 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 07:26:27 2016.

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I really hate to say this, but how many times have people of color killed people of color and the same people who have it in for cops stroll off: "oh yeah, terrible, move along, move along."

Good site, this, shows names and pictures of the statistics.

Two a day so far this year in Chicago alone.

So hard to make a media-ready movement out of that, isn't it?

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:07:58 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:04:22 2016.

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What about the epidemic of white-on-white crime, since you're dragging out the irrelevant "black-on-black crime" trope again?

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:08:26 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 07:13:28 2016.

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Remember all the riots of the '60s under LBJ.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:10:48 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:08:26 2016.

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When the dream of nonviolent direct action was killed (in the person of MLK Jr.), America got a little taste of the nightmare. Think about that. The rioting was wrong, but it happened for a reason.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 8 09:13:07 2016, in response to SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 7 23:27:20 2016.

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Fuck you asshole

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 09:14:35 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:37:01 2016.

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Stop projecting your own hate onto others and deal with it. Whatever you think you see "between the lines" does not exist.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 09:16:06 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 8 00:27:08 2016.

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Got proof? From all other accounts I've seen that's not what happened.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:20:18 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:10:48 2016.

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I remember the era well, and personally in the issue of riots and civil disorder.

The rioting began years before MLK's death. Liberals at the time were puzzled that this followed hard on the debate on and passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (MLK died in 1968). Thus came the phrase: "The Crisis of Rising Expectations"; it meant things were getting better but not fast enough. Kind of like the intifadas because Israel wasn't giving up land quickly enough.



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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:27:24 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:20:18 2016.

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A century of state sanctioned apartheid (Jim Crow), enforced by state-condoned terrorism, preceded the Civil Rights era. Change should have been immediate, final, and irreversible. Not only didn't it happen fast enough, it still hasn't happened today, in many ways.

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Re: Shooting in Dallas

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jul 8 09:27:42 2016, in response to Re: Shooting in Dallas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 8 03:02:08 2016.

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Maybe. I do know that he is a fucking defective 16 year old, most likely living in Orange County California and foams over OCTA diesel New Flyer buses (I got that info from this site). Methinks he should stick to bus foaming and keep out of grownups business.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:43:14 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:07:58 2016.

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The fact that you consider "black-on-black crime" merely a trope shows how much you like to stick your head in the sand.

In 2013 (FBI) 2,491 "Blacks or African Americans" were murdered: 189 by whites, 2,245 by blacks; 20 by "Other"; 37 unknown.

In the meantime, 123 black people have been killed by police in the first six months of 2016 (and 238 whites). Those include justified shootings.



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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:45:36 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 09:27:24 2016.

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Most of the big riots occurred in cities in states that never had Jim Crow. And before you were blaming MLK's death, now you're simply justifying the violence.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 09:51:33 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 01:36:16 2016.

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As he always does in these situations.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 09:52:47 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by FtgreeneG on Fri Jul 8 00:48:35 2016.

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And they have his gun, and I imagine they'll quickly know if it had been used last night.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 09:55:28 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by DAND124 on Fri Jul 8 00:36:25 2016.

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Perhaps, but rogue police officers and politicians who defend them have been stirring that pot for a while now.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:00:26 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by bingbong on Fri Jul 8 09:16:06 2016.

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From what accounts you lying sack. You are always citing sources bot never post proof.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:06:58 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 09:55:28 2016.

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And your president has last night's blood on his hands. He got on TV and blamed the LA and MN shootings on racism even before his own people had an opportunity to investigate and report. His comments served to give license to the thugs who assassinated those 5 white police officers. What a horses ass you elected.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jul 8 10:07:20 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 8 01:02:18 2016.

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Maybe not personally.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:08:22 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:45:36 2016.

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Of course he is because his team is doing the shooting.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 10:13:14 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 08:13:21 2016.

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Not at all. But you can bet your bippy they'll be slower to respond to calls in the black neighborhoods.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:23:29 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:06:58 2016.

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Bullshit! President Obama called it like it is, but obviously some can't handle the fact there is a deep-rooted problem with police culture. Not to mention a severe lack of accountability. You love to hear about "thugs" and such, but just can't face the fact that mainstream America is no longer giving police the benefit of the doubt for everything, and seeing that there's a serious problem. You can ignore the obvious and call the president what you will. I personally don't give a shit. One thing for certain... This is not going away, and there's plenty of blame and healing to done on BOTH sides.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 10:24:31 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:43:14 2016.

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+1

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:27:48 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 8 03:37:25 2016.

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...and one innocent civilian trying to do the right thing is dead. Despite what many may think... His life mattered just as much as any other life.

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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:31:13 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:43:14 2016.

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Justifying cops killing Black people, because Black people are killing each other, follows the same logic as justifying ISIS killing Americans because Americans are killing each other.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:31:51 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:23:29 2016.

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Of courses you are wrong but it would be a waste of time trying to change your mind.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 10:36:04 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 10:13:14 2016.

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Really? That would either be cowardice, laziness, or incompetence, since the fact that some blacks are criminals doesn't mean the rest don't have a right to decent law enforcement. It's certainly grossly unprofessional.





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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 10:38:33 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:31:13 2016.

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Who justified? I'm asking why you and other activists find one worthy of massive protests and social change and the other is barely a blip on your radar.

I say All Lives Matter, which is inclusive of all black lives, but you seems to feel that the only black lives that really matter are those taken by police.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:42:28 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:31:51 2016.

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Of course you'd say such and take that attitude.

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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:42:38 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 10:38:33 2016.

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The logic behind saying "All Lives Matter" is this:

Everyone is sitting at the dinner table eating, except Bob, who has no food. Bob says, "Bob deserves food!", to which the other diners reply "Everyone deserves food!", and continue eating their meal. But that does nothing to rectify the fact that BOB HAS NO FOOD.

Are you getting it yet?

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:43:12 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:42:28 2016.

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What did you expect?

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:50:37 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:42:28 2016.

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Precisely, Jones.

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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 10:52:32 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:42:38 2016.

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You didn't address the issue; just focused on your POV of the rhetoric. I asked why you "[seem] to feel that the only black lives that really matter are those taken by police."



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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:55:37 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:42:38 2016.

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Your example is stupid.

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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:55:37 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:42:38 2016.

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Your example is stupid.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jul 8 10:56:58 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 8 10:43:12 2016.

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True! It is Train Dude 1.1, after all.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 10:57:58 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 8 09:43:14 2016.

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These statistics prove that black people are being killed by the police at a significantly higher rate in terms of their total population. These statistics are the basis for all of the anger and the #blacklivesmatter movement.

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Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 10:59:08 2016, in response to Re: MORE: Comey Says FBI's Hillary Investigation Will Be Referred To DOJ, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 10:55:37 2016.

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His example is exactly what the #alllivesmatter people do.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 8 11:00:53 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 8 10:36:04 2016.

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Self-defense is human nature.

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Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS

Posted by TonyG on Fri Jul 8 11:06:25 2016, in response to Re: SHOOTNG IN DALLAS, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 8 08:03:32 2016.

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Are you much better?

You and your buddies here are quick to blame the black men who were murdered by the police but as soon as the police get shot, it's a tragedy.

I've got news for you. They're both tragedies and neither event should have happened.

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Re: Shooting in Dallas

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 11:10:39 2016, in response to Re: Shooting in Dallas, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 8 04:22:38 2016.

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Who is you guys?

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Re: Shooting in Dallas

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 8 11:17:05 2016, in response to Re: Shooting in Dallas, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 11:10:39 2016.

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Anyone who doesn't think like he does.

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Re: Shooting in Dallas

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 8 11:19:28 2016, in response to Re: Shooting in Dallas, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 8 11:17:05 2016.

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Oh is that what it is?

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