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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 07:39:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 3 07:23:20 2016.

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That's just observation, if you watch actual footage of the altercations it's clearly the anti-trump supporters being violent.

They're yelling in people's face, calling them "hateful", "racist", etc, totally inept at conversation and listening to views other than theirs, shoving, assault, damaging of signs, etc, then the media says that Trump supporters are violent and his rallies are a source of violence.

Truly amazing reporting there.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 07:59:08 2016, in response to Trump is toast in November, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon May 2 19:34:09 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Mark my words, kiddos, mark my words....

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:03:02 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by bingbong on Mon May 2 19:48:45 2016.

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The FBI as we speak is building up a case against her. The only reason why she's not locked up yet is because they need an airtight case. They're dotting their Is and crossing their Ts. Arrest and indictment to follow...

It'll wind up being a Trump-Sanders contest.


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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:04:08 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 07:11:32 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Agreed.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:05:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 07:59:08 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes. Americans are just that stupid.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:07:02 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 2 21:40:01 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You really think that the violence committed by the motley crew of professional anarchists, illegal aliens and their spawn, and other malcontents is justified? Police cars set on fire and turned over, Trump supporters getting attacked, that's justified? Isn't this America?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:08:18 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:03:02 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
In that case Trump will lose handily. Sanders does better against il commerciante.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:09:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:05:35 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How are they stupid? (Now I remind you, I'm playing Devil's Advocate. I haven't even said who I'm voting for.)Because YOU have a different opinion, THEY must be stupid?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:12:48 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:08:18 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm afraid I might agree with that, although I believe that Trump can beat Sanders easier than Clinton. If she gets locked up, all of Clinton's supporters will somehow blame the Republicans for it, and join the Sanders campaign.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:14:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 07:39:40 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So words, no matter how hurtful (and correct) should be answered with punches in the face?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:15:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:07:02 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What Trump supporters being attacked?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:15:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:09:38 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Anyone who wants Trump to be president is stupid.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:16:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:12:48 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Your beliefs are contrary to facts.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:21:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:14:52 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is the question isn't it?

Words, no matter how hurtful (and correct/truthful) should be answered with violent, hateful protesters?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:25:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:21:40 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It is the Trumpenproletariat who answer words with violence.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:29:09 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:25:21 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'd advise you to do some research.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:36:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:29:09 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Are you a Trump supporter?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:38:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:15:21 2016.

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All you have to do is go on Youtube, go to the Alex Jones Channel, amonst others, and see for yourself! Yes, I know that there have been anti-Trumpers punched inside the rallies. I'm not stupid, nor would I try to act "cute" and pretend that I don't know about it. So, I find it hard to believe that you don't know that there's massive anti-Trump rallies outside of his rallies, causing violence and mayhem. Their actions just validate what Trump has to say.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 08:39:06 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:08:18 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Those polls only show what they show because no one has attacked Sanders from the right.



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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:39:17 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:15:57 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, THAT was a clear, concise rebuttal.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:40:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:36:16 2016.

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I'm a supporter of free speech and critical thinking.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:43:17 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 08:16:38 2016.

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They aren't facts per se, just theories until AFTER Election Day.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 08:54:48 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 07:39:40 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
CMM posted what he claimed was a disgraceful example of anti-Trump behavior and no one shoved anyone.



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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:04:00 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 08:54:48 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Youtube is your friend.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:09:55 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:04:00 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You made a generalization which is clearly false.

If you want to claim that on specific occasions anti-Trump protestors have been violent and unlawful, I wouldn't disagree with you in the slightest.



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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:12:42 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:09:55 2016.

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I made comments based on observation. You can also clearly watch videos of people shoving the police even, as they try to prevent trump supporters from entering venues.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:17:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:12:42 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
if you watch actual footage of the altercations it's clearly the anti-trump supporters being violent

Generalization. It's sometimes true, but sometimes not. Sometimes no one is being violent. Sometimes it's Trump supporters being violent.





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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:31:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:17:50 2016.

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Ok, in addition. Trump supporters are not going to Hillary's, Bernie's rallies, because they don't care. They go to Trump rallies to support him and have a good time.

On the other hand you have Hillary and Bernie supporters going out of their way to protest at Trump's events and initiate hate, intolerance and violence.

One is a more of a problem, which one is it?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:36:08 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:31:53 2016.

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On the other hand you have Hillary and Bernie supporters going out of their way to protest at Trump's events and initiate hate, intolerance and violence.

The word is perpetuate, not initiate. Trump encourages hate, intolerance, and violence. Unfortunately it also encourages some of his opponents who don't realize the trap they're falling into.




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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:37:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:36:08 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What hate, intolerance and violence does he encourage?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:43:33 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 09:37:35 2016.

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The police state that is necessary to expel illegal aliens in the numbers he wants.

Proposing the murder of children who are related to criminals.

Proposing admission to the United States on the basis of religion.

Encouraging physical violence against people who make non-violent protests.

I don't have the time to keep on going.




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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:49:03 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:39:17 2016.

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Because it's true.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:49:49 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 08:40:04 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're not a Trump supporter?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:52:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:43:33 2016.

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Abridging the right to free speech by toughening up libel laws.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:52:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:43:17 2016.

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Do you know what a theory is?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 10:07:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 09:43:33 2016.

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The police state that is necessary to expel illegal aliens in the numbers he wants.
He's probably not even going to bother. Protecting the national border is hate now? Are gang busts and anti terrorist busts hate now? Is arresting criminals hate against non-law abiding residents?

"Proposing the murder of children who are related to criminals"
What do you think the drones are and have been doing in the Middle East for years? Is it OK because Obama and Bush is/were hush hush about it? Is mentioning it now considered "proposing violence"?.

Proposing admission to the United States on the basis of religion.
He said put a hold to figure out what was going on. For example, when there is an escaped criminal, or gunman/robber on the lose, Schools go into Lockdown Mode. should they keep their doors open because it's hateful otherwise? Is it intolerant of criminals and parents?

The US doesn't have to let anyone in, the constitution is for US citizens not everyone else.

Encouraging physical violence against people who make non-violent protests.

There's protesting and then there is disruption. Every speech he has, there is some (paid)"protester" There were people in Arizona blocking the highway, and many other instances of disruption to his private events. But if you want to ignore the actions of certain people...

How about if for example someone screams at you with a loudspeaker whenever you're home, would you have a peaceful non-violent conversation about it?

It seems that "encouraging" violence is a big no no, but to engage in it, is perfectly fine LOL. Go figure.


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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 10:13:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:49:49 2016.

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I'm a supporter of free speech and critical thinking

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 10:19:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 10:07:35 2016.

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It seems that "encouraging" violence is a big no no, but to engage in it, is perfectly fine LOL.

Who said that to engage in it is fine? Not me, that's for sure.

And if Trump proposes something but doesn't mean it, that doesn't mean his supporters are smart enough to recognize the difference. So it's still encouragement.

And just because something is legal (admitting people to the US on the basis of religion), that doesn't make it unbigoted.

And Trump is proposing to kill children deliberately, not accidentally. No difference in your mind?




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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 10:25:29 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 10:07:35 2016.

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1. Illegal immigrants hide in plain sight all over. The only way to deport all of them is to establish a horrific police state where police randomly stop people and ask them for their papers.

There are reasonable ways to curb illegal immigration and get illegals out, but Trump has not proposed any of them.

2. Collateral damage is one thing, explicit murder is another. If there were a drone that could strike a wedding and kill only the terrorists and not any of the innocent civilians there, any other president would use it, Donald Trump wouldn't.

3. That is a poor metaphor. He did not propose a temporary moratorium on all immigration, just on Muslim immigration.

The Constitution is for all people under the jurisdiction of the United States or any of them.

4. Blocking a highway is a peaceful protest. And the protests are taking place in public places, not near Mr. Trump's home.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 10:25:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 10:13:22 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you're not a Trump supporter.

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Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 11:03:49 2016, in response to Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Dave on Tue May 3 01:06:38 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I undstnd you're on vacation, but you can buffer and read internet articles offline in your browser. This is mosst helpful when using hotal wifi services, as they are limited and spotty in places.

The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Trump and Clinton are now tied at 38% apiece among all likely voters, but 24% say they will vote third-party or stay home if those are the major-party nominees.


Dave, you need to read. Nowhere in the article is your claim made.

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 11:19:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 08:38:22 2016.

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Alex Jones? Lulz. That's shortwave territiory you're talking. Real RW nutballs. You sure trumps crazy enough for you?

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue May 3 11:38:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 11:19:53 2016.

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Klutz!

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 11:42:03 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue May 3 11:38:24 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Enough already!

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue May 3 11:46:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 11:42:03 2016.

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A and B conversation :)

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 3 12:00:14 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue May 3 11:38:24 2016.

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I will continue.......................................................................

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 3 12:00:34 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue May 3 11:38:24 2016.

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I will continue.......................................................................

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue May 3 12:03:13 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 11:42:03 2016.

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I will continue.......................................................................


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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 12:58:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 10:25:57 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
O_O

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Re: Trump is toast in November

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 13:00:38 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by N6 Limited on Tue May 3 12:58:38 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You said you are a supporter of free speech and critical thinking. Therefore, you are not a Trump supporter.

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