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Posted by SLRT on Sun Apr 24 12:46:55 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 23 20:57:57 2016. The Last Supper was a Seder.And pig wasn't on the menu. Nothing personal. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 00:51:31 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 17:23:53 2016. No it isn't you moron. Popcorn is kosher l'pesach according to any authority that permits the consumption of kitniyot during the holiday. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 00:55:37 2016, in response to It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 10:39:23 2016. We had a perfectly fine Passover thread already, did you have to start one?I've concluded you like the holiday even less than Moishe Oofnik, which is saying something. At least Moishe has some redeeming qualities, whereas you clearly have none. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 09:22:27 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 00:51:31 2016. Popcorn is kosher l'pesach according to any authority that permits the consumption of kitniyot during the holiday.Nice job begging the question there— anyone who thinks popcorn is OK thinks that popcorn is OK. Pity you can't expand that reasoning. Did you know that it's OK to eat ham and rolls on Passover according to the authorities that permit the consumption of those things? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 09:26:42 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 00:55:37 2016. I've concluded you like the holiday even less than Moishe Oofnik, which is saying something.OK, let's see. I celebrated the holiday. With friends. By attending a Seder. Which I, and all of my friends, enjoyed. However, we celebrated it in a manner that differs slightly from your obsessive dictates for how it "should" be celebrated, therefore you conclude that I hate the holiday and everything associated with it. Yuh huh. At least Moishe has some redeeming qualities, whereas you clearly have none. Says the petty little dictator who flies into a frothing rage at the idea that other people might be having fun without his approval. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 26 13:32:34 2016, in response to It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 10:39:23 2016. Do whatever you want, who cares? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 19:35:15 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 26 13:32:34 2016. Presumably, all the people throwing screaming tantrums about it. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 26 19:55:35 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 19:35:15 2016. When I was in law school, my best friends were all Gentiles (Roman Catholics mostly). Although my school must have been 70% Jewish, I had very few Jewish friends. I always felt that they somehow felt threatened or were uncomfortable with the fact that I was Orthodox. There was one girl who would never talk to me unless she could mix in a Yiddish word or two. There was another who used to ask me if it was OK with me if she ate a ham sandwich while I was in the room. Silly.Religion is, or should be, a personal thing. I don't judge anyone else by their level of religiosity or observance. All I ask that you be a nice person and don't try to force me to be something I'm not. If you want to bring a ham hock to a Seder, knock yourself out. Just don't bring it to mine. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 26 20:42:20 2016, in response to It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 10:39:23 2016. Were you at least able to get some unfortunate lasses liquored up enough to attend this sausage fest? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 20:42:23 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Mitch45 on Tue Apr 26 19:55:35 2016. Religion is, or should be, a personal thing.Agreed, albeit with more emphasis on the "should be" rather than the "is." All I ask that you be a nice person and don't try to force me to be something I'm not. No one's asking you to. However, this thread (and, to a much greater extent, the previous one) are chock full of people who throw screaming tantrums at the fact that I'm not Orthodox. This thread contains at least two people who claim that the sole reason I celebrate holidays is to mock them, so I think I'm probably the last person here who needs that advice. If you want to bring a ham hock to a Seder, knock yourself out. Just don't bring it to mine. OK, just to spell it out— I brought a ham hock to a Seder attended by six secular/Reform Jews. None of us keep kosher. None of us keep Passover. Everyone else knew that ham would be served; in fact, I was explicitly asked to bring it. The problem is that OTChat is full of Orthodox fundamentalists who believe that they get to tell everyone on the planet what to do, and the idea that I and my friends were celebrating the holidays in a way they personally didn't approve of drove them to a screaming frothing meltdown. Of course, saying: "You celebrated Passover without complying with all of my obsessive dictates!" would just make them look like the immature crybabies that they are. So a few of them desperately tried to beat up a straw man by claiming they actually objected to the idea of showing up uninvited to a Seder hosted by Orthodox strangers with ham in hand. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 20:43:27 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Easy on Tue Apr 26 20:42:20 2016. ??? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 21:43:55 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 09:26:42 2016. I don't think anyone here is criticizing your practices, although I'm not sure I'd define them as "celebrating Passover." However, you are the one mocking other people's practices and then trying to portray yourself as the victim. Why don't you go back in to your cave and stay there? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 21:45:15 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 09:22:27 2016. anyone who thinks popcorn is OK thinks that popcorn is OK.Did I say otherwise? Did you know that it's OK to eat ham and rolls on Passover according to the authorities that permit the consumption of those things? No legitimate authority on the matter is actually going to permit that and remain a legitimate authority on the matter. It's kind of like being a Jew for Jesus, if you believe that Jesus Christ was the son of G-d then you are not practicing Judaism. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 26 22:07:03 2016, in response to It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 10:39:23 2016. you eat PORK ?damnn |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:16:33 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 21:45:15 2016. Did I say otherwise?Of course not. What you said was a tautology, and thus true but irrelevant. No legitimate authority on the matter is actually going to permit that and remain a legitimate authority on the matter. I take it, then, that you are unfamiliar with the existence of Reform Judaism? Or is this just another No True Scotsman, where any authority who disagrees with you is not a "legitimate" authority? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:20:03 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 21:43:55 2016. However, you are the one mocking other people's practicesAnd that's just it. You're a petty little dictator who thinks that everyone on the planet needs to do things your way and anyone who deviates from your obsessive dictates does so to mock you and for no other reason. I didn't celebrate Passover in exactly the way you dictate, so you have a screaming meltdown about how I'm "mocking" you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:25:36 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 26 22:07:03 2016. Actually, I didn't partake. I was asked to bring the ham, but there were other dishes on offer.Of course, pointing out that five other Jews requested ham at a Seder and I was the only one who didn't eat any wouldn't have convinced the screaming ninnies to put on quite a show for us. Maybe I'll try it next year, though. It'd be interesting to see what happens. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 22:28:29 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:20:03 2016. Lots of people don't celebrate Passover the way I do. Did your seder include jumping rope? I don't mock people if their seder does not (but my family seders have since 1968). You on the other hand... |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 22:31:25 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:16:33 2016. I'm not aware of any Reform rabbi who would permit someone to eat ham and cheese on a roll during Passover. Are you? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 26 22:32:35 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 22:25:36 2016. oh i seeok |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 23:09:49 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 22:28:29 2016. Lots of people don't celebrate Passover the way I do. Did your seder include jumping rope? I don't mock people if their seder does not (but my family seders have since 1968).I've concluded you like the holiday even less than Moishe Oofnik, which is saying something. At least Moishe has some redeeming qualities, whereas you clearly have none. What, you think that's not an appropriate response to your jumping rope for the sole purpose of mocking Judaism? Then you might want to rethink the tantrum you're currently throwing. You on the other hand... ...have not celebrated Passover in a manner compliant with your dictates, and you are being a whiny little baby about it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 23:12:15 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 22:31:25 2016. I'm not aware of any Reform rabbi who would permit someone to eat ham and cheese on a roll during Passover. That's your failing, not mine. Are you? Yep. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:22:45 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 23:12:15 2016. Care to share who that person is? If not, don't go blabbering on about how people here destroy strawmen or your other usual excuses. You're not getting a reply until you prove yourself capable of civil discourse. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:23:39 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 23:09:49 2016. Maybe you should ask me why my seders include jumping rope. The rationale makes far more sense than eating ham and cheese sandwiches on bread. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 26 23:32:12 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Easy on Tue Apr 26 20:42:20 2016. :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 27 00:58:35 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:22:45 2016. Care to share who that person is?Does it matter? See, the point that you can't seem to wrap your petty little head around is this: My holiday traditions do not require a blessing from you or any person that you consider an "authority." Everything you have posted in this thread has been based on your childish assumption that I must celebrate my holiday in exactly the way you dictate, or I must provide you with an explanation for any variations that you are willing to accept. This assumption is, of course, completely asinine. I do not owe you an explanation for how I celebrate my holidays. I do not owe you an "authority" who is willing to pronounce my celebrations to be justified. You are not the dictator you think you are, so grow the fuck up. I could, of course, cite five names for you just off the top of my head. However, (a) they might object to being cited in this manner, as religious nutjobs like you are known for harassing people who they disagree with and you do have a history of demanding the death of infidels, and (b) you'd just move the goalposts and declare that my five authorities don't count because of reasons you made up, but most importantly, (c) I feel it's important to drive home this message that you really ought to learn, namely that you don't get to tell other people how to celebrate. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 27 01:07:21 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:23:39 2016. Maybe you should ask me why my seders include jumping rope.I honestly don't care. You don't owe me a rationale for your celebrations and I don't owe you a rationale for mine. A point which continues to elude you no matter how many times I try to drill it into your head. The rationale makes far more sense than eating ham and cheese sandwiches on bread. "Makes sense" with regard to what reference frame? We swapped the lamb shank, bitter herbs, charoses, matzah, and Haggadah for ham hock, rosemary, chutney, rolls, and homemade Haggadah respectively. The reason we did this is because we all wanted to. Unanimous consent of all parties based on shared interest is literally the best "rationale" for doing anything, so your reasons for jumping rope couldn't possibly make more sense; at best, it'd make the same amount of sense. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 09:30:00 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:23:39 2016. You and I do not agree politically, and geographically, but in this case I agree with you 100%. You put this schlimazel in his place. Good job. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 27 11:48:52 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 09:30:00 2016. A and B Conversation. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 11:52:13 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 27 11:48:52 2016. No kudos to me? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 12:27:06 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 11:52:13 2016. hmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 12:57:39 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 12:27:06 2016. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 13:09:54 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 12:57:39 2016. yeplol |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 13:12:13 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 13:09:54 2016. Is that how you laugh? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 13:31:37 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 13:12:13 2016. sometimesyes |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 13:35:25 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 13:31:37 2016. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Apr 27 13:38:28 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 13:35:25 2016. oklol |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 27 13:40:08 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 26 20:42:23 2016. Like I said - knock yourself out. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 14:08:29 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 27 13:40:08 2016. Only 15 months. Despicable. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 14:10:22 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 14:08:29 2016. oops Disregard. sorry |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 27 23:51:40 2016, in response to Re: Kudos To WMATAGMOAGH, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Apr 27 09:30:00 2016. You put this schlimazel in his place. Good job.You must not be reading the same thread I am. All WMATA did was continue his petulant whining about how evil it is that I celebrate Passover without getting his personal approval for every aspect of my Seder. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 28 01:28:04 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:23:39 2016. Maybe you should ask me why my seders include jumping rope.I'll ask. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Apr 28 01:47:15 2016, in response to Re: It Is Still Passover, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 27 23:51:40 2016. A and B conversation. |
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Posted by subfan on Thu Apr 28 02:20:26 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Apr 26 23:23:39 2016. Im pretty sure I can guess the reason..Chag Same'ach, subfan |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 28 02:28:55 2016, in response to Re: It Is Still Passover, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Apr 28 01:47:15 2016. Public message board. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Apr 28 03:45:57 2016, in response to Re: It Is Still Passover, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 28 02:28:55 2016. Bla bla bla. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 28 05:48:03 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 23 13:47:47 2016. I don't agree except for the electricity ban. Until the 19th century, the Sabbath rules were actually good, in that it was a way to protect workers from having to work 7 days a week.Still is, particularly because of the "electricity ban." |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 28 05:49:02 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 23 13:03:23 2016. Nope, it's 25 hours of boredom in which you can barely even leave your house!I've never found it difficult to leave the house. Do you have electric door knobs or something? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 28 08:15:30 2016, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 28 05:48:03 2016. It also prevents leisure.There are also labor laws now. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 28 08:26:16 2016, in response to Re: It Is Still Passover, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 27 23:51:40 2016. Is your name in the subject? |
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