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Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 20:31:35 2016 Post about the results here |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 20:49:56 2016, in response to Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 20:31:35 2016. Who are you rooting for dand124? |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 20:54:52 2016, in response to Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 20:31:35 2016. I hope Hillary and Trump win. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 20:56:09 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 20:54:52 2016. I wanted Biden or O'Malley.Rubio for the GOP. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 21:01:12 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 20:56:09 2016. Neither Biden nor O'Malley could win a general election.I see where you're going with Rubio. I have a sneaky suspicion that "candidate" Trump and "President" Trump are not one and the same. A President Trump would be more along the lines of a Nixon/Ford Republican versus a Regan Neocon or a Tea Party candidate. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 21:07:08 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 21:01:12 2016. I want Hillary and Kasich. Problem with President Trump is his ego will get in the way and I am afraid he will micromanage everything like Jimmy Carter. As President you need to see the forest through the trees and delegate the lesser stuff. Trump strikes me as someone who wants to be surrounded by yes men who will stroke his ego and tell him everything is just hunky dory thanks to his policies. Michael Bloomberg, his nanny state leanings aside, knew he needed strong advisors to cover his inexperience so that is what he did. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 21:10:30 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 21:01:12 2016. Where am I going with Rubio? I just like him better than Trump(who is pathetic) and Cruz(who wanted a shutdown to build his brand name).Jeb Bush is a Bush. And he's not doing the Paleo diet properly. O'Malley or Biden would do something to get the minority/female/LGBT/#checkyourprivilege demos like a VP to appeal to their elements. So many groups hate white males so much that they might just vote Dem. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 21:20:25 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 21:07:08 2016. Given what I've heard of his actual management style, he considers himself as royalty and delegates everything. He likes executive summaries of jobs done and he is notorious for shitcanning anyone who doesn't meet his expectations. So expect a Presidency where the revolving door keeps spinning and nothing gets done. He's the perfect republican. :) |
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Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 22:26:55 2016, in response to Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 20:31:35 2016. GOP:Cruz 28 Trump 24 Rubio 23 Dems Clinton 50 Sanders 49 |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:46:33 2016, in response to Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 22:26:55 2016. when you think about it, Trump has spend tons of time and money in Iowa and if he can't win there against Cruz he should end the game.Rubio didn't do so bad. If Trump would just stop fucking around, Rubio could win this primary. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:47:42 2016, in response to Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 22:26:55 2016. Actually, on the democrat side, Sanders won. 20 delegates to Clinton's 19. That's with 88% counted so far, so might not be the final.I'm amazed that Trump and Rubio were so close. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:49:11 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:47:42 2016. If Trump would stop trying to sabotage the Republicans, Rubio could win the nomination. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:51:17 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:46:33 2016. Ya gotta love a party that pisses off Hispanics and then tries to compensate for it by shoving two Hispanics into the lead. Meanwhile, Bubba is bound to figure that out by November. :) |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:52:50 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:49:11 2016. And lose the election.
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:52:58 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:51:17 2016. gotta love a party that keeps racial scorecard of everything and their top runners are all old white people. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:55:11 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:52:58 2016. Yep ... well ... one certain party promotes itself as the party of angry white people, so the other party figures what's the point in pandering to a minority group. (angry white people) ... :) |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:55:41 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:52:50 2016. well yeah.Everyone is angry at white males. In a country of gays, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Feminists, everyone is united in an effort to take this country down. Voting D is the best way. That how they see it. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:56:26 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:55:11 2016. the media portrays the GOP as angry whites.Hillary. O'Malley. Sanders. All old white people. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:58:47 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:55:41 2016. Maybe your side should stop taking it down then? I mean really ... can you name one thing that the republicans have done that is positive? Anything? |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Feb 1 22:59:58 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:56:26 2016. Hmmmmmmm ...
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:04:57 2016, in response to Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 22:26:55 2016. Yay! |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:05:37 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:46:33 2016. Oh shut up! |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:07:21 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:04:57 2016. Win the battle lose the war. Ted Cruz cannot win the general nationwide even if the Democrats nominated Bernie Sanders |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:07:43 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:56:26 2016. How old is O'Malley? |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:08:42 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:49:11 2016. You like Rubio? |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:11:37 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:07:21 2016. Yeah right . |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:16:22 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:11:37 2016. Cruz has no track record of getting anything done even in the majority party and has a nasty habit of putting his foot in his mouth. I know you agree with him on immigration, but that stance will not get you any state that Romney lost to Obama. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 1 23:18:33 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:16:22 2016. No, I agree with Cruz's stance on Israel. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 1 23:19:27 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:16:22 2016. I don't expect it would get him any state Rmoney won, either.😗 |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:21:42 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 1 23:19:27 2016. There are plenty of states that will NEVER vote for a Democrat as the parties currently are |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 1 23:26:36 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:21:42 2016. Not that many. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Feb 1 23:42:29 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by TonyG on Mon Feb 1 21:01:12 2016. Anyone see Rubio's speech? It was really good. Trump sounded like he took a Valium! |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Feb 1 23:59:51 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Feb 1 23:42:29 2016. No it wasn't. He came off as whiny. "Make me President"? |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Feb 2 00:04:18 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:55:41 2016. Rubio is Hispanic. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 2 01:30:56 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:46:33 2016. IAWTP. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Feb 2 22:34:23 2016, in response to Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by DANd124 on Mon Feb 1 20:31:35 2016. I'm not sure why the media is insisting one candidate or another won Iowa, particularly on the Democratic side. It's not winner-take-all, so it's an insignificant number of delegates won separating Sanders and Clinton on one side and Cruz, Trump and Rubio on the other. That really seems more like a tie on both sides. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 02:13:24 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by WillD on Tue Feb 2 22:34:23 2016. I'm not sure why the media is insisting one candidate or another won Iowa, particularly on the Democratic side.What the analysts who aren't oversimplifying mean is that certain candidates' prospects for actually attaining the nomination have been improved by the Iowa results and certain candidates' prospects have been damaged. Iowa is demographically considered one of Sanders' best states. The fact that he broke even there indicates poor prospects for him unless he can change his demographic appeal. Rubio's vote total indicates that he has enough appeal that it's more likely than not that Republican primary voters could coalesce on him as the non-Crump. That enhances his prospects even though he came in third. Trump "loses" dramatically because the results hint that his support is capped at about 25%. The other 75% of Republicans mostly despise him*. You can win some primaries with 25% of the vote but you won't ever get enough delegates. * It's remarkable to note that even Republican primary voters can occasionally have good sense. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 3 02:17:31 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 02:13:24 2016. since Dems like recounts so much, why not recount Iowa results?Kind of tells you they want Hillary to win. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 3 02:17:57 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 02:13:24 2016. since Dems like recounts so much, why not recount Iowa results?Kind of tells you they want Hillary to win. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 3 03:02:08 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 02:13:24 2016. Trump "loses" dramatically because the results hint that his support is capped at about 25%.Yeah, in Iowa. In the large States that go blue in the general election, Trump will get 40% of the GOP primary vote while Cruz will do poorly. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 08:25:44 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 3 03:02:08 2016. Polls convey useful information even if you can't trust their end conclusion.Trump is not getting 40% in any big state, barring a game changing event like Rubio being indicted for credit card fraud. I agree about Cruz, though. He won't do well in the Bronx. :) |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 08:27:11 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Feb 3 02:17:31 2016. why not recount Iowa resultsBecause Sanders has far more political wisdom than you. He could ask for a recount, and maybe get 2 more delegates. But he would risk future voters considering him petty. Better to save a recount request for a very close winner-take-all state. |
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Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 3 08:36:01 2016, in response to Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 08:27:11 2016. This might amuse them ... I'm actually surprised with all the echo chamber and the deaf that it hasn't already shown up here.http://www.c-span.org/video/standalone/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus&popoutPlayer |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 08:46:30 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 1 22:52:58 2016. Exactly. The left can only see things in terms of race.If there are no people of a certain race, they are racist. If there are, they are pandering. The left has an answer for everything. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 08:50:46 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 1 23:07:21 2016. Sanders would be an even worse president than Obama, and that's saying a lot. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Feb 3 09:46:25 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 08:50:46 2016. That is a stretch. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 3 11:26:22 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 08:50:46 2016. His ideas are not feasible economically, but they would not get through Congress even if Democrats controlled both chambers |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 11:30:47 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Feb 3 11:26:22 2016. They are feasible economically. Sweden has implemented most of them and they are doing pretty well.But I agree that they aren't going to happen here. We aren't Sweden. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 12:39:02 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by AlM on Wed Feb 3 11:30:47 2016. LOL, and Sweden is about the size of one of our small states. |
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Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 3 12:44:22 2016, in response to Re: Cruz wins Re: Iowa Caucus Results Thread, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 3 12:39:02 2016. Only if you think America has 40 "small states."And why would it make a difference anyway? |
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