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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 19:03:33 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 18:56:26 2015. It's funny how most racist in this country tend to fly both proudly but no connection there. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 18:48:37 2015. It's not a perfect comparison by any means, but it's also not ludicrous. Both are symbols of oppression. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:10:33 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 19:03:33 2015. A point completely missed on some. Yes, there are differences but not in the minds of the simple. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:10:52 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 18:57:05 2015. It could be for the right price ... :) |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 19:11:50 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015. Exactly |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 19:15:37 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:10:52 2015. The question was not directed at you. I already know your opinion. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:19:25 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 19:15:37 2015. Well then, you might want to consider email. This place is a public wall, everybody gets a free can of paint. :) |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 19:40:02 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 28 13:11:52 2015. So when you see the Japanese flag, do you think of all of the Japanese people who live under it as losers, too? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:49:24 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 19:40:02 2015. LOL!Do you know the difference between the Nissoki (or Hinomaru) and the Teikoku Rikugun battle flag? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 28 20:04:01 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015. Exactly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 28 20:34:24 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015. Yes |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 20:45:08 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 19:49:24 2015. Why don't you explain it while I wash the laces on my sneakers. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 20:46:05 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 28 20:04:01 2015. You are too modest. It's very ludicrous. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 28 20:56:55 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 20:46:05 2015. Lol. Hardly. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 21:05:27 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Jun 28 20:45:08 2015. At my age, I reserve my tutoring for students who are ready, willing and able to learn. What I would recommend in your case is consulting with an attorney. Whatever educational institution(s) you attended definitely appear to owe you a huge cash settlement. :) |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 21:32:54 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 18:48:37 2015. There's a difference between comparing Nazism and the Confederacy, and comparing the swastika and the stars and bars. The former are not comparable, IMO. The latter, sure, I can see people saying both represent flags offensive to one or more groups of people. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 21:34:11 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 28 18:44:42 2015. Proff? And I don't mean NOI nonsense, I mean from a reliable source. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 21:39:36 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 18:45:39 2015. How does that compare to having a state policy of Judenrein? Do you really believe that enslaving a race of people is morally equivalent to genocide of a race of people?Had you protested against the attempted genocide of Hutus by the Tutsi army in Burundi in 1972? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 28 21:40:58 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 18:29:06 2015. ? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 28 21:54:04 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 18:29:06 2015. No, but I can rent one. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 28 21:56:30 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015. same people think the US flag is symbol of oppression. and at some point they will much more mainstream than message boards and universities. |
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Posted by Waynejay on Sun Jun 28 22:10:32 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 11:06:59 2015. Thanks a bunch, Oren! CMM's baseless insults don't bother me, especially when he flings them out of frustration. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 22:22:21 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 28 21:54:04 2015. Nah, maybe David Harrison would like to join us. If I come up we can head out to Union to spend the day at IRM. If not I'll split the cost of renting with you. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 22:53:23 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by AlM on Sun Jun 28 19:10:30 2015. DING DING DING |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 22:54:09 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 15:10:37 2015. Great post |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 22:54:44 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 14:01:36 2015. It isn't anti-Semitic. They are both symbols of oppression, something which as a Jew you ought to oppose no matter who the victim is. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 23:11:55 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 22:54:09 2015. Thanks. |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 23:59:54 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 21:39:36 2015. Morally equivalent no but do i believe BOTH are atrocities Yes. Both are reprehensible and disgusting. So IMO the playing who's atrocity is worse game is a waste of time the point was they both were atrocities period.As for your second question i wasn't alive in 1972 so no i didn't. But similar things are still going on in the Sudan/ S Sudan and Syria so yes i am morally against those even though the story gets minimal coverage in this country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 29 01:51:17 2015, in response to The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jun 25 19:52:01 2015. It seems now to be probable that the Abolitionists and their allies will have control of the next House of Representatives, and it may be well inferred from their past course that the will attempt legislature both injurious and offensive to the south. I have an abiding faith that any law which violates our constitutional rights, will be met with a veto by the present Executive. – But should the next House of Representatives be such as would elect an Abolition President, we may expect that the election will be so conducted as probably to defeat a choice by the people and devolve the election upon the House.Whether by the House or by the people, if an Abolitionist be chosen president of the United States, you will have presented to you the question of whether you will permit the government to pass into the hands of your avowed and implacable enemies. Without pausing for your answer, I will state my own position to be that such a result would be a species of revolution by which the purposes of the Government would be destroyed and the observances of its mere forms entitled to no respect. In that event, in such manner as should be most expedient, I should deem it your duty to provide for your safety outside of a Union with those how have already shown the will, and would have acquired the power, to deprive you of your birthright and to reduce you to worse than the colonial dependence of your fathers. - Speech of Jefferson Davis before the Mississippi Legislature, Nov. 16, 1858 |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:04:26 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 19:03:33 2015. Those are harmless symbols representing the proud cultural traditions of Southern German-Americans.Why do you hate people who like both sauerbraten and mint julep? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:06:41 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 18:29:06 2015. If you see him in Chicago, please convert him back to Judaism.We don't want him. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:08:03 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 18:40:23 2015. Why would they want to destroy their property? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:09:36 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jun 28 14:18:23 2015. I am neutral.So were many Germans during the Nazi Era. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 29 07:00:42 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 28 21:05:27 2015. That's okay, old timer. Considering that your career successes and failures have been enumerated here ad nauseam, I think we can afford to skip your tutorials today. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 29 07:18:45 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:08:03 2015. Exactly. Southern states needed slave labor for their economy. Is slavery abhorrent? Absolutely. Morally indefensible? Absolutely. An atrocity? I don't believe so. The word "atrocity" commonly is used when describing barbarous action during a war. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 29 07:30:03 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 21:34:11 2015. no you white folks wanted us niggers all dead |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 29 07:43:17 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 29 07:30:03 2015. That's your proff? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 29 07:59:04 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Mon Jun 29 07:43:17 2015. history is on my side the proof and then somewhite america wanted all niggers dead after slavery |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 29 08:21:15 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Jun 28 23:59:54 2015. So IMO the playing who's atrocity is worse game is a waste of time the point was they both were atrocities period.No more calls, we have a winner. They're apples and oranges in scope and intent but for each group represent a tragedy nonetheless. Your father died of cancer and mine died in his sleep. They're both dead and we're both saddened; let's leave it at that. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 29 08:25:52 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 29 08:21:15 2015. You sometimes make too much sense to be a true liberal. I suspect you only wear sheep's clothing. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Jun 29 09:39:27 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 29 07:59:04 2015. If it's history then it's been written down somewhere and analyzed by historians. Show us your proff. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 29 09:49:15 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by bingbong on Sun Jun 28 20:56:55 2015. 
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 29 09:53:23 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Mon Jun 29 07:18:45 2015. An atrocity? I don't believe so. The word "atrocity" commonly is used when describing barbarous action during a war.A southern gentlemen prior to 1810 goes and looks for some slaves to buy. He has money. Unless he willfully closes his eyes and ears to the evidence presented in many sources, he knows perfectly well that his money is financing African wars whose sole purpose is to collect slaves. He also knows that for every 10 slaves he buys, a few potential slaves will have died en route. It's barbarism by proxy, but it's still barbarism. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 29 10:07:11 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Dave on Sun Jun 28 22:22:21 2015. Sounds like a plan. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 29 10:07:49 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 29 03:06:41 2015. Who is we? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 29 10:10:01 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Jun 28 22:54:44 2015. Talking out of both sides of your mouth. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Jun 29 10:23:15 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 18:48:37 2015. Perhaps, you should brush up on your reading comprehension as I did not compare the two.My point in mentioning the Swastika is that it's obviously offensive to you being a Jewish person. Likewise, as a black person (with parents born and raised in the south during the Jim Crow era)... The Confederate flag is just as offensive to me. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jun 29 10:25:03 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WayneJay on Mon Jun 29 10:23:15 2015. Fine. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Jun 29 10:32:39 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jun 28 14:05:01 2015. You just don't get it. The fact that the Confederdate flag doesn't bother you does not negate the fact that it (and it's history/heritage) is offensive to some people.your post |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Jun 29 10:34:58 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WayneJay on Mon Jun 29 10:23:15 2015. And yet by your metric, the comparison is meaningless to most here who ate neither black or Jewish. |
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