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The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jun 25 19:52:01 2015

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More reasons the stars and bars belongs only in museums

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015, in response to The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jun 25 19:52:01 2015.

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There is not a damn thing wrong with the Confederate flag.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jun 25 21:45:01 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015.

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BULLSHIT!

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 25 23:32:24 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015.

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You don't have a problem with the battle flag of secessionists, who by being secessionists committed treason?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 00:05:07 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jun 25 23:32:24 2015.

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I certainly do as I have a problem with treasonous politicians like Bill Clinton who in 1987 signed a bill placing one star on the state flag of Arkansas to honor the confederacy.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 26 00:10:29 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:12:39 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 00:05:07 2015.

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Seriously? LOL!

In 1987, Mr. Clinton signed Act 116 reaffirming a state flag design that included a star symbolizing the state’s membership in the Confederacy.

Hillary Clinton was the state’s first lady at the time. The law passed unanimously — 29-0 in the state Senate, 93-0 in the House.

The bill was passed unanimously in both houses. Clinton did not create the bill, and he couldn't veto it either. Way to go republicans! A new low even for you guys. Well done! :)

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:15:26 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:12:39 2015.

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Backed up by Rupert Murdoch, certainly a credible news source:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/23/bill-clinton-signed-law-affirming-arkansas-state-flag-includes-star-for-confederacy/

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 26 00:15:52 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:12:39 2015.

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And? Your point?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 26 00:16:41 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jun 26 00:10:29 2015.

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Oh no, not you too.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:19:16 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 26 00:15:52 2015.

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Plenty of valid things to pick on Bill and Hill over, that isn't one of them.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 00:56:08 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:12:39 2015.

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As usual, you are being dishonestly liberal. If Bill Clinton were against the bill, he should have voted against it and let his veto be overridden. Of course by your account he has as much integrity as a typical liberal.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 01:08:41 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 00:56:08 2015.

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Heh. A very well thought out and reasoned counterargument, "hurr durr librul." Just because you live in a "librul" enclave doesn't mean everybody else is. I'm upstate. Bears ate all the libruls decades ago.



get back to me when you pet an eagle, k?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 26 05:13:28 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 00:56:08 2015.

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What executive would veto a unanimous vote?

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 26 07:33:08 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 26 05:13:28 2015.

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They don't understand political expediency.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 26 08:33:13 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015.

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How many humans do you own in your labor camp ?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:07:43 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jun 26 00:16:41 2015.

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Has it occurred to you that you might be in a very small minority on this issue?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:18:59 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:07:43 2015.

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I think I might get this book.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:21:17 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:18:59 2015.

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What does that book have to do with today?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:24:06 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:21:17 2015.

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Jews did serve in the Confederacy.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:42:36 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:24:06 2015.

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I know, but that doesn't mean you should support the Confederacy in 2015.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Jun 26 10:51:06 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:24:06 2015.

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Jews served in the Union too so why don't you support them rather than those who committed treason by taking up arms against the United States, a country you claim to love

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:51:43 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:42:36 2015.

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For the umpteenth time, I do not support the Confederacy over the United States of America. I just don't have any problem with the Confederate. I don't hate it, nor like it.

But I do resent it when the Confederate flag is compared to the swastika. Especially by people who claim they are Jewish.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 26 10:52:01 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:24:06 2015.

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so did blacks.

So what's your point?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:53:36 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 26 10:52:01 2015.

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Thank you.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R30A on Fri Jun 26 11:13:37 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:51:43 2015.

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It is not just comparable. It is functionally identical, unless you are a bigot.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 26 11:24:23 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 26 10:52:01 2015.

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Blacks served in the Confederate army, as soldiers?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 26 11:30:06 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:51:43 2015.

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When basically everyone here disagrees with you, you just might be wrong so why not suck it up, put on your big boy jeans and shut the fuck up?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 26 11:34:38 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Jun 26 10:42:36 2015.

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Remember what I said before?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 26 11:36:28 2015, in response to The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jun 25 19:52:01 2015.

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Because it represents oppression against blacks and not against Jews, right?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jun 26 11:42:49 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by 3-9 on Fri Jun 26 11:24:23 2015.

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Evidently so

your pal,
Fred

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 26 12:48:52 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jun 26 10:24:06 2015.

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They also served in the Union.

And not all Jews are righteous. Baruch Goldstein is an example. You consider him a hero, though.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 14:33:19 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 26 07:33:08 2015.

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Much as you don't seem to understand integrity..

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 26 14:53:17 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 14:33:19 2015.

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Or you don’t seem to understand what an “upstate democrat” is or the subjunctive mood.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 16:26:41 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 26 14:53:17 2015.

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What does that have to do with the current discussion?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 16:41:27 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 01:08:41 2015.

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How about a pic of you petting an eagle or maybe a hawk picking roaches from your beard. BTW: You look a lot older than I imagined you looking.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 16:50:45 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 16:41:27 2015.

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You might be amused to know that there aren't any roaches up here, and yeah - been around a while. I got to see what really happened, not some right wing blogger's distortions of it. Helps to keep shit straight. :)

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 16:51:28 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jun 26 16:26:41 2015.

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Everything.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 19:09:31 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 16:50:45 2015.

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Ah yes, the utopian world north of Coxsackie!

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 20:44:33 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 19:09:31 2015.

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Cows make great neighbors, except when they're horny. :)

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 22:48:23 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 20:44:33 2015.

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Or when they eat beans, I suppose. I guess if you like to wake up to the smell of manure on a hot morning, you are living in paradise.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 23:07:59 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 22:48:23 2015.

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Like I said, left the city ages ago, we have real oxygen out here. :)

Hate to break it, but haven't smelled a whiff ever since we've lived here, and cows aren't fond of beans or corn. They eat grass if you want proper meat. Non-agribusiness farmers take care of "business" because they and their families would have to smell it too. Roaches, cow flop, so many misconceptions of reality. And I'll bet you actually believe all that just like the other stuff you peddle. :)

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 23:58:03 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 23:07:59 2015.

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Growing up there were always the kids who's father was "bigger than your father" or "my bike is faster than your bike" or "my house is bigger than your house". That's what kids do. Living upstate may work for you but it's not for everybody and it's certainly no paradise. Time to stop acting like a little kid, yo.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 27 00:25:29 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Jun 26 23:58:03 2015.

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Not a question of better, or indifferent. Merely pointing out that your assumptions about me have no basis in fact. The world you've surrounded yourself with, along with its expectations are not the same one others live in.

You seem to think I'm a "librul." Just pointing out that it's not possible in the environment I live in. At the same time, being a "right winger" isn't either. There's a whole world out here where extremes just don't work. I prefer that kind of world. YMMV.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jun 27 07:05:53 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 27 00:25:29 2015.

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Oh really, and you know where or how I live? Better yet are you now going to tell us that where you live there is only one way to think or one way to vote?

How do you live with cows and not smell the cow shit in your paradise. How do you insult conservatives and right wingers in virtually every posting that you make but never criticize liberals and then try to sell the poop that you are middle of the road. I really don't care about where you live or how or even your political point of view. But even with my undeveloped sense of smell I can still tell the difference between cow shit and bull shit. I'm just feeling that it's necessary to point out what you are leaving behind you is the latter. That said we can still be friendly here.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Jun 27 09:25:05 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jun 27 07:05:53 2015.

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Excellent post. Put Selkirk in his place.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 27 12:32:13 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Jun 27 07:05:53 2015.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WayneJay on Sat Jun 27 12:38:18 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 25 21:39:17 2015.

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Really? Do you feel the same way about Swastikas?

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WayneJay on Sat Jun 27 12:41:30 2015, in response to The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jun 25 19:52:01 2015.

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I totally agree, Oren. We're hearing so much about heritage and pride. I think many are saying this as if heritage and pride are synonymous with good.

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Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous.

Posted by WayneJay on Sat Jun 27 12:43:39 2015, in response to Re: The Confederate flag isn’t just offensive. It’s treasonous., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 26 00:15:26 2015.

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LOL! Let's see him try again:-)

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