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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 27 19:29:48 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Mar 27 18:51:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Almost sundown!

You always start a fight you can't win and then walk away for religious observance.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:52:05 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Mar 27 18:35:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
try marzipan at an Italian pastry shop. It's so sweet that only a little can be consumed at one sitting.

Ha ha.

You haven't met enough Italians and Germans, have you? Marzipan is meant to be consumed in at least quarter pound quantities, if not more. :)



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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:06:43 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Mar 27 18:46:29 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Mass market macaroons?

Look in any grocery store.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:08:40 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Mar 27 18:51:39 2015.

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You asked.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:20:29 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:52:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I've had more than enough marzipan to know! :D

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 27 21:22:04 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by AlM on Fri Mar 27 19:52:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's like sweet sand.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 22:25:53 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 27 21:22:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sand? You're doing it wrong.

It's like really thick cake or summat.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:40:13 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 27 19:29:48 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No I don't. Prove it.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:41:53 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:08:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And as I said, what does one thing have to do with the other? I don't see any connection between rabbis blessing almonds and almonds being produced at a kosher facility. Why can't you answer simple questions?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:43:55 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 20:06:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, reread the thread. Are you really this stupid?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 08:49:06 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:41:53 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't see any connection between rabbis blessing almonds and almonds being produced at a kosher facility.

The connection is that if almonds are certified kosher, they must have been approved by a rabbi. "Blessed" is a colloquial term for approved, meaning that kosher almonds have been blessed by a rabbi.

Why can't you understand simple concepts?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 08:50:45 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 08:43:55 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You want an example of mass market macaroons without coconut? Hop in a time machine and look in any grocery store three years ago.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:05:15 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 08:49:06 2015.

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The connection is that if almonds are certified kosher, they must have been approved by a rabbi.
That doesn't make any sense. I already told you that I don't see the connection. You don't seem to be getting it.

"Blessed" is a colloquial term for approved, meaning that kosher almonds have been blessed by a rabbi.
I know what you are colloquially saying and you're wrong. There is no requirement for kosher almonds to have been blessed or "blessed" by a rabbi. Why are you making stuff up? Why can't you deal with facts?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:06:24 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 08:50:45 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, you claim they exist. You claim they are or were available around Passover. You seem to think we should be able to help you find them. And you claim you've found them in previous years. So surely you can provide an example.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 14:25:56 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:06:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d

More macaroons than you can shake a stick at


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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 14:26:30 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:05:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There is no requirement for kosher almonds to have been blessed or "blessed" by a rabbi.

Correct.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 14:29:42 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 14:25:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. This is what is being discussed: "You're looking for macaroons that contain absolutely no coconut ingredient?"

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 14:33:22 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 14:29:42 2015.

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I know. I didn't think all those macaroons contained coconut as an ingredient.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 14:37:11 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 14:33:22 2015.

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Best I can tell, they do.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 15:03:47 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 14:37:11 2015.

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Oh, okay. I didn't realize that.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:42:37 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:06:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, you claim they exist.

I've eaten them.

You claim they are or were available around Passover.

You know that they were.

You seem to think we should be able to help you find them.

No, I'm just remarking on their absence.

And you claim you've found them in previous years.

Last year, they could be found. Before that, they could be found easily.

So surely you can provide an example.

An example of what?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:42:39 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:05:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That doesn't make any sense.

OK, so what do you think it means for something to be certified as kosher?

I already told you that I don't see the connection.

Seeing connections is something you do tend to be rather bad at.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Mar 31 12:55:06 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:42:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d


You know that they were.
No I don't.

No, I'm just remarking on their absence.
IIRC. in this thread or a different one, you specifically asked for help finding macaroons before Passover.

An example of what?
Seriously? Unbelievable.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Mar 31 12:57:09 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:42:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d


OK, so what do you think it means for something to be certified as kosher?
Has nothing to do with what I think. It has to do with facts. For something to be certified as kosher, the certifying organization has to be comfortable that the product is kosher. To accomplish that, they can have representatives on location some of the time or all of the time, depending on many different factors.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 2 11:25:19 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Mar 31 12:57:09 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
For something to be certified as kosher, the certifying organization has to be comfortable that the product is kosher. To accomplish that, they can have representatives on location some of the time or all of the time, depending on many different factors.

And who makes the determination? Who decides who qualifies to work as a representative?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 2 11:25:33 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Mar 31 12:55:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No I don't.

Then you're not Jewish.

IIRC. in this thread or a different one, you specifically asked for help finding macaroons before Passover.

Link or it didn't happen.

Seriously? Unbelievable.

Not an answer.

An example of what?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 2 14:20:28 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 2 11:25:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d


And who makes the determination?
Which/what determination?

Who decides who qualifies to work as a representative?
The certifying organization decides. According to wiki, "the requirements for becoming a mashgiach are being Jewish, being Sabbath-observant (shomer Shabbat), being Torah-observant (shomer mitzvot), and personally fulfilling the laws of kashrut (shomer kashrut). According to Rabbi Matisyahu Salomon, a senior Orthodox rabbi in the United States, the most important criteria is yirat Shamayim (fear of Heaven)." Sounds good to me.

So are you ready to finally address my original point?

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 3 08:33:23 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 2 14:20:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bump.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 3 09:04:25 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Apr 2 14:20:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
According to Rabbi Matisyahu Salomon, a senior Orthodox rabbi in the United States, the most important criteria is yirat Shamayim (fear of Heaven)."

Or in other words, kosher almonds have been blessed by a rabbi (via representative).

So are you ready to finally address my original point?

I've been in the process of addressing it all this time. It's not my fault that you're slow on the uptake and need your hand held through a chain of simple logic.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 3 15:35:37 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 3 09:04:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. Can you read? He is just making a statement about the criteria used for someone to be a mashgiach.

You haven't addressed it. You're wasting all this time trying to prove me wrong instead of just believing what I told you days ago - that there is no connection. And you still haven't provided a link to a product.

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Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...)

Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 3 20:55:14 2015, in response to Re: This Is Getting Ridiculous! (Re: Pesach is about one week away...), posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Apr 3 15:35:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He is just making a statement about the criteria used for someone to be a mashgiach.

And who decides if someone meets those criteria?

You haven't addressed it.

Boy you really are slow on the uptake. Do you need a few more minutes to get it?

And you still haven't provided a link to a product.

Google it. Why should I provide a link to the macaroons I'm currently eating just because some goy doesn't think they exist?

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