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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 15:06:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 14:47:28 2015.

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Yep !!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:16:42 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 14:51:50 2015.

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NO You're an idiot.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:16:48 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 15:06:21 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:17:07 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:16:42 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:18:16 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:17:07 2015.

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NO You're an idiot.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 15:21:33 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 27 22:24:26 2015.

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I hereby withdraw the preceding post.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:27:10 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:18:16 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!
lol

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:28:54 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:27:10 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:36:42 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:28:54 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:38:19 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:36:42 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 15:40:43 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 15:21:33 2015.

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Plot twist!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:46:23 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:38:19 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:47:16 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:46:23 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:53:04 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 15:47:16 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 16:10:22 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 15:53:04 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 16:14:04 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 16:10:22 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 16:39:24 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 16:14:04 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 16:47:15 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 16:39:24 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 16:52:48 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 12:58:39 2015.

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Nilet said that nobody who is a "minority" can ever be a racist since they do not have the power to set policy so their positions, even if one would consider them racist if said by the "majority" against a "minority", are meaningless

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 19:22:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 16:47:15 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!


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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 19:56:05 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:45:16 2015.

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Cue the Twilight Zone music.....

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 19:56:05 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:45:16 2015.

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Cue the Twilight Zone music.....

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 19:58:00 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:21:54 2015.

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IDGAF that I'm a sexist. We are mammals. Males are different than females. THIW.

WHY would I stalk THAT guy for? Now, run along my obsessive subchatter.

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 19:58:32 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:35:22 2015.

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Biting my lines again I see....

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 19:59:34 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:33:46 2015.

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Stunadz, listen up. I said 11 DID work as I was done with work AND in the area.

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 20:01:59 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:30:51 2015.

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People reading this can PLAINLY see that you're making this up. Now kid, who's in his 20s, this is a forum for grown-ups, not kids who THINK that they're intelligent enough to partake in adult conversations. Come back in 10-15 years from now when you've become a productive member of society.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 20:02:20 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 19:22:59 2015.

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NO You're an idiot!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 20:02:27 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:27:01 2015.

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LOL!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 20:02:52 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:25:16 2015.

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Stop biting!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is White

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 20:03:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is White, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 06:20:07 2015.

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Zimmerman is a BROWN person.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:41:58 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:09:00 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:01 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:09:58 2015.

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LOL!! Yup, in your sick mind of course, so it must be true.

You said it explicitly RIGHT HERE. Why are you still trying to deny the obvious?

And yes, your crap is "nonsense and propaganda".

My post says: "Racial equality is a good thing."

You think my post is "nonsense and propaganda."

Therefore, you believe the statement "racial equality is a good thing" is "nonsense and propaganda."

Q.E.D.

I know you never learned anything about logic, but you might want to google the term "syllogism" because you're just making yourself look like even more of a fool.

You can twist that any way you want with your sick fetishes.



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:03 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:11:06 2015.

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Your actions over the last two days are perfect example.

Such as?

Once again, I'll take the liberty of fixing that for you:

You have not done anything a reasonable person could disapprove of, so I'll make vague references to nonspecific actions and hope no one will notice my complete lack of evidence.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:05 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:12:13 2015.

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1. His only claim was that it did not pose a certain risk of death. That is true.

It was a reply to my post that it posed a significant risk of death; it seems he was trying to contradict that point.

2. He was only disagreeing with the claim that Dick Cheney was a draft dodger.

Dick Cheney is a draft dodger; that makes his statement a lie.

If you do not believe that using legal means to evade the draft is considered "draft dodging," a colloquial term, then it is correct.

That's an absurdly technical reading; even if his statement is literally true by this alternate definition of the term "draft dodging," the plain meaning of the statement is still a lie.

3. Difference in opinion regarding the meaning of the term "blockade."

Dave posted that for the express purpose of contradicting my claim; if he wasn't using the same definition of "blockade" then his statement is meaningless and irrelevant.

4. An ad hominem insult.

A claim of fact that Salaam is stupid, expressed colloquially. A lie, based on the evidence available.

And as noted, those were just the posts he made in the last two or three pages on OTChat.

5. And he again reïterated that he didn't even read it.

He has responded to enough my posts that he's obviously read it by now; he continues to insist that it's "nonsense and propaganda."

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:07 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:12:22 2015.

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But since I called his posts "nonsense", I am a "racist".

My post said: "Racial equality is a good thing."

If you call that "nonsense," then you are a racist. That's what the term means.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:09 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:14:23 2015.

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I didn't read it, and don't plan to read it...

So how do you know it's "nonsense and propaganda?"

...and I have no interest in reading anything he posts that takes more than 5-10 seconds.

Racial equality is a good thing. Your thoughts?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:12 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 11:45:46 2015.

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Dave never said that Dick Cheney fought in Vietnam.

Then he's a draft dodger.

Also, Egypt is blockading Gaza by preventing items from being transported through Gaza's border with Egypt

Egypt is preventing goods from being transported through Egypt. That doesn't meet the definition of a blockade— goods can still be transported by sea and air, were it not for Israel's blockade.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:14 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 11:56:38 2015.

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Nilet is worse than Olog when it comes to perverting logic.

This statement is self-evidently false to anyone who has ever read any of our respective posts.

If you wish to make this claim, you'd better have some pretty compelling evidence. Yet your post is surprisingly devoid! Imagine my concern.

Nilet says that Salaam is alive because he avoided the draft.

Yes. Were Salaam to have gone to war, there's a significant chance he'd be dead today.

Later he says no one should have taken that literally.

Only the SubChat Autism Brigade would take it literally in the first place.

If I say that getting shot in the chest is fatal, I obviously don't mean 100% of the people shot in the chest will die. If I say falling from 5,000 feet is fatal that doesn't mean you won't be able to find a single person in all of history who managed to survive it. And when I say going to war will get you killed, I obviously don't mean that every single person who goes to war will die fighting it.

I'm starting to see why you think I can be compared to Olog— your ability to understand basic English is rather limited.

Presumably his metaphorical meaning was that Salaam's dodging the draft increased his chances of being alive today.

Gee, you think?

But Dave does take Nilet literally...

If that's the case, then Dave is stupid. Or autistic.

... and now Nilet interprets Dave's rebuttal as being to the metaphorical thing Nilet said, not to the literal thing.

As I said, I do tend to assume the best of people. That includes assuming that Dave isn't stupid enough to misinterpret a simple sentence with a clear meaning.

It's hopeless. He reserves the right to reinterpretation of his statements after the fact...

My statement has a plain meaning. It continues to have a plain meaning. At no point has any "interpretation" been required, so there's nothing to "reinterpret."

Are you seriously claiming that if I told you it was raining cats and dogs, you'd accuse me of animal abuse for dropping felines and canines from the sky?

... without accepting that others might have taken them at face value to begin with.

Neither you nor Dave has ever taken my statement at face value. You intentionally misinterpreted it, and when I told you that you misinterpreted it and reminded you what it actually meant, you insisted I was "changing" the meaning, or even claiming I meant something completely different from what I actually said.

It's not possible to have a discussion with someone like that.

I'm inclined to assume the best of people, so right now I'll assume you're genuinely unable to understand non-literal language.

However, whether you are genuinely unable to understand figures of speech or willfully misinterpreting what I said because you enjoy being a nuisance doesn't really matter, because it's impossible to have a debate with you either way.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:17 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:04:12 2015.

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And yet he spends hours whining about me...

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:19 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 12:05:11 2015.

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Define "racist."

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:09:10 2015.

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And Reuter's uses the term blockade when it comes to Egypt's actions against Hamas. So does the BBC, Washington Post, and the Christian Science Monitor.

Link to any of those sources claiming Egypt has a naval blockade of Gaza, imposes any airspace restrictions on Gaza, or prevents goods from entering Gaza through Israel.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 31 08:59:03 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:42:21 2015.

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block·ade
bläˈkād/
noun
noun: blockade; plural noun: blockades

1. an act or means of sealing off a place to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving.
"there was a blockade of humanitarian aid"
synonyms: siege;

verb
verb: blockade; 3rd person present: blockades; past tense: blockaded; past participle: blockaded; gerund or present participle: blockading

1. seal off (a place) to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving.
synonyms: barricade, block off, shut off, seal;

Egypt closed the Rafah border crossing with Gaza and is preventing medical and humanitarian aid from getting through. This is a blockade, a word you obviously don't understand the definition of.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:59:52 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 13:19:12 2015.

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Um, no. When someone makes a claim and I ask for evidence, and they provide the evidence and I accept the claim, that's called "logic" and it's how adults act all the time.

Maybe when you graduate from preschool you'll be able to figure it out.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:59:55 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:07:02 2015.

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Very well. Barring evidence to the contrary, it seems that is his email address.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:59:57 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Mar 30 12:59:40 2015.

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Oh I know quite well what's going on here.

And knowing that, I consciously chose to mock you by pretending to misinterpret the situation in the same way you habitually misinterpret situations.

Alas, it went right over your head that you were being mocked. :(

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 08:59:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 16:52:48 2015.

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Nilet said that nobody who is a "minority" can ever be a racist...

No, I said that when systemic racism exists which benefits one race (the privileged group) over another race (the oppressed group) then a member of the oppressed group cannot benefit from systemic racism against the privileged group because there isn't any and expressing a wish that there were is not a major social problem.

... even if one would consider them racist if said by the "majority" against a "minority", are meaningless

Do you seriously not understand the concept of power dynamics?

Do you seriously not understand that if one person holds a gun to another person's head, the statement: "I'm gonna shoot you in the head" might, in context, mean something fundamentally different if it's spoken by the unarmed person with the gun against his temple rather than the person holding the gun?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:00:01 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 30 12:58:39 2015.

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Chimmy and Chris are pretending they don't understand the difference between systemic racism and opposing systemic racism.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:00:02 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 12:57:53 2015.

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He isn't racist.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:00:03 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 12:21:32 2015.

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Further down the page.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 31 09:00:05 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:11:55 2015.

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Why Canadian Amazon, though? Is Salaam Canadian, or do reviews cross-post?

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