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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:48:33 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 20:38:10 2015. And her name is? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:48:34 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 2 20:30:38 2015. Violating your lent. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:48:35 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 2 20:27:01 2015. You're an idiot. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:48:35 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 20:26:59 2015. When you think we had all the answers, you change the question. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 20:50:04 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:40:20 2015. Unca Selkirk's thought of the day: "Everything in the universe undergoes a perpetual state of change. Except for conservatives."Moo. :) |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:50:33 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:47:30 2015. Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.One right of citizenship is owning property. Technically he Fifth Amendment only applies to the Federal Government so a state would be free to confiscate all of the property of Jews if it so wanted without Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 20:50:38 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:46:08 2015. yup. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:51:59 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 20:50:38 2015. Nice |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:53:18 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 20:50:04 2015. I think I read that in a fortune cookie. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:54:54 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:50:33 2015. I'm sorry. That's absurd. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:55:42 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:50:33 2015. I'm sorry. That's absurd. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:55:43 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 20:50:04 2015. I think I read that in a fortune cookie. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 20:56:12 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 20:51:59 2015. I agree. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 21:00:20 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:54:54 2015. I'm sorry you feel that way but without the Fourteenth Amendment it is possible |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:06:18 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:44:39 2015. He couldn't even go a week without violating it, let alone 40 days.He has the self-discipline of a 3 year-old. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 21:06:53 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 21:00:20 2015. The 14th amendment was meant to give slaves citizenship. Not anchor babies. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 21:07:28 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:53:18 2015. New York Chinese restaurants have the best fortune cookies. :)
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 21:13:17 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:06:18 2015. LOL he fucked up Lent!!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:13:33 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:55:42 2015. It's 100% accurate.The 14th also incorporated the First Amendment right to freely exercise your religion and the Constitution's requirement of being free of religious tests and oaths to the several States. Before that it only applied to the Feds. Without it a State could deny you the freedom to practice your religion or to take Christian oath to get that CTA job. Besides eliminating the 14th Amendment, Christianists like Steve King also want to replace the "no religious test" with a mandatory Trinitarian Oath. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 2 21:15:15 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:44:39 2015. No. This is what I'm supposed to do. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 2 21:18:39 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 21:06:53 2015. If that were the case the 14th Amendment could say "No state shall deprive a citizen born or naturalized of any right of citizenship on the basis of race, color or previous condition of servitude." The drafters knew of that language because it is in the 15th Amendment. The language of the 14th Amendment makes clear that its scope is much broader to prevent disparate treatment against any disfavored group |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:24:47 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 2 21:15:15 2015. No. This is what I'm supposed to do.
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 21:28:34 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:24:47 2015. Hahahaha !your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 2 21:56:18 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 21:06:53 2015. You are so stupid. We were not talking about that particular provision. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 2 21:58:29 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 21:24:47 2015. Eve is the greatest woman ever. She chose knowledge over ignorance. Fuck the God that would keep humanity ignorant. And that's why there's human suffering? What an asshole. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 21:59:31 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 21:07:28 2015.  your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 22:07:10 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 2 21:58:29 2015. Eve is the greatest woman ever. She chose knowledge over ignorance.Agreed. Her and Lilith who chose individuality over patriarchal subjugation. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Mar 2 22:12:25 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:48:33 2015. That would be Carolyn Maloney of NY-12 (formerly NY-14) |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Mar 2 22:14:30 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 2 20:08:41 2015. I am not, however that has nothing at all to do with why Steve King i s insane and an idiot. I think Immigration is a far too nuanced topic to hold a single view on it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 22:50:50 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 2 21:59:31 2015. Heh. Love it! :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 2 23:18:27 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:43:46 2015. drop dead chicagomotorman |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 2 23:47:51 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 2 20:38:15 2015. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 2 23:48:14 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 2 20:40:23 2015. IAWTP |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 3 02:50:18 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 2 19:21:14 2015. Maxine "no conflict between Sharia law and US Constitution" Waters? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 3 04:33:30 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 3 02:50:18 2015. Yeah, that one. She believes in the FIRST Amendment because if we let you crazies dictate religion, then the Talmud and Bhagavadigita must also succumb to Christianity. Or is "freedom of religion" only for Adventists?If people wish to follow religious law within their own "tribe" then who are YOU to dictate otherwise? They're not exactly supplanting YOUR rights by exercising their own, in their own communities. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 3 06:43:38 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 3 04:33:30 2015. What about people in those communities who are unwilling? America guarantees liberty to all! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 3 07:53:28 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 2 20:55:42 2015. Why are you so dumb? Why do you reject what intelligent people tell you? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 3 07:59:48 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by SMAZ on Mon Mar 2 20:56:12 2015. She's mine too. I agree with much of what she says and does, but every now and then she just has knee jerk reactions to issues she hasn't given any thought to. But that's true of almost every politician. |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 3 08:01:34 2015, in response to Congressman Roll Call, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 2 08:56:54 2015. I have none. Taxation without representation!!! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:04:28 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 3 07:53:28 2015. Who's your congressman? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:06:01 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 3 08:01:34 2015. You must not live in the United States. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:06:29 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 3 07:53:28 2015. Who's your congressman? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 3 08:08:57 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:06:01 2015. No. He lives in Washington D.Cl |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 3 08:09:06 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:06:01 2015. No. He lives in Washington D.C. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 08:36:00 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:04:28 2015. drop dead chicagomotorman |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:47:17 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 3 08:08:57 2015. I know that will ad another democrat to congress, but Washington DC should have a voting congressman, or congressmen to represent them. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Mar 3 08:49:17 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Mar 3 08:36:00 2015. Is your name Terrapin Station? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 3 08:51:48 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 3 07:53:28 2015. Although appeal to authority is generally fallacious, mtk is more qualified than chicagomotorman to determine the effects of a particular law and the consequences of its non-existence. In this case, chicagomotorman is obviously working off of someone else's authority, probably some website. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 3 08:59:08 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 3 08:51:48 2015. There is a line of case law from the Supreme Court holding for a narrow reading of the 14th Amendment. There is also an equally long line of those using the 14th Amendment as central to the "Living Constitution." Taken to an extreme either side is wrong, but I do believe that looking at the text of the 15th Amendment which dates from the same time period, the drafters of the 14th Amendment knew of language if they only wanted the 14th Amendment to apply to newly freed slaves. My disagreement with the other extreme is that they read in "rights" that cannot be justified from the text of the Constitution or the contemporaneous writings of its drafters |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 3 08:59:18 2015, in response to Re: Congressman Roll Call, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 3 08:08:57 2015. No. CMM was right. Mr. G lives abroad. |
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