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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 12 12:30:55 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by Nilet on Sun Jan 11 22:55:24 2015. Both of those things are wrong. Killing six million people for any reason is so wrong that there is little need for any "enhancement."Of course, I am also opposed to hate crime laws. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 12 19:33:12 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jan 11 22:27:14 2015. Selkirk did not call you a fucktard, but for misunderstanding his post, I will. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 12 20:43:44 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 12 19:33:12 2015. Fuck you. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:31:11 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Mon Jan 12 08:36:45 2015. Sorry for being at this thing called WORK... You know, it's when you're gainfully employed so you cannot be on the computer all day long talking to mental midgets such as yourself all day long.Proof of racism would be you linking things that I've said here that specifically show me disparaging someone or a group because of their race. But don't bother, as you can't. You'll just bring up the deaths by police of individuals who brought it upon themselves and conveniently say that because they were black, that I MUST be racist by happenstance. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:34:05 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Mon Jan 12 08:37:42 2015. Again,I was at work. You can see that the time is EXACTLY the same for the double post, so unless I have some sort of magic finger that can press the button so fast multiple times that even *I* don't know it, it's gotta be a glitch on the computer.BTW, of all the forums/sites I'm on, THIS is the only one that does it. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 13 02:52:19 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:31:11 2015. what about the innocent people murdered by police / sheriffs ? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 03:33:00 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 13 02:52:19 2015. What about them? It's a travesty of justice when that happens. It STILL doesn't have a correlation to racism like Nilet suggests.... |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:30:35 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:34:05 2015. BTW, of all the forums/sites I'm onWhat other forums/sites are you on? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:19 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:34:05 2015. You didn't answer the question.Who else do I mock for double posting, other than Chicagomotorman who does it repeatedly and deliberately? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:26 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 03:33:00 2015. What about them? It's a travesty of justice when that happens.Can you name one case where you think it did happen to a black person? It STILL doesn't have a correlation to racism like Nilet suggests.... So why are black people disproportionately likely to be killed by the police? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:29 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 01:31:11 2015. Sorry for being at this thing called WORK... You know, it's when you're gainfully employed so you cannot be on the computer all day long talking to mental midgets such as yourself all day long.Really? I'm gainfully employed and you're a mental midget and I find that talking to you takes a few minutes at most; your "arguments" are so painfully bullshit that it takes very little effort to shred them. I think the problem is that you spend a lot of time struggling and failing to prove me wrong because I'm so much smarter and more rational than you are— trying to "debate" me is hard work precisely because of your own failings. So what sort of "work" do you do? It's obviously not something intellectually demanding, nor something that requires normal human interaction, as you have the intelligence and maturity of a young child. Telemarketing perhaps? Proof of racism would be you linking things that I've said here that specifically show me disparaging someone or a group because of their race. Oh, like here. And here. Q.E.D. Although out of curiosity, is it your opinion that declaring: "Killing black people is never a crime?" is not racist? But don't bother, as you can't. That you smugly preen about how I can't do something makes it that much more satisfying that I just did, instantly and trivially. You'll just bring up the deaths by police of individuals who brought it upon themselves and conveniently say that because they were black, that I MUST be racist by happenstance. No, but the fact that you say any black person who was killed "brought it upon themselves" further proves that you're a racist. You don't have to say "...because they are black." You're still a racist. If you can't understand why, here's a few more questions for you. Black people are disproportionately likely to be killed by the police. Do you see that this is racist? Black people are vastly disproportionately likely to be sent to prison. Do you see that this is racist? Can you point to a single black person who was killed by the police who you think didn't deserve it? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:33 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 13 02:52:19 2015. Well he doesn't think it's a travesty if they're black, obviously! |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:36 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 12 12:30:55 2015. Both of those things are wrong. Killing six million people for any reason is so wrong that there is little need for any "enhancement."Wait, what? The point is that certain people are claiming it's wrong to kill Jews but right to kill people of other groups— I was observing that some of those people have called me antisemitic for saying that the Holocaust was wrong because of the "killed" not because of the "Jewish," ie, that the Holocaust would not have been right if they'd killed any other group instead. Of course, I am also opposed to hate crime laws. Oh? Why? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:50:42 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:29 2015. I'm gainfully employedDoubt it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 13 08:51:54 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:50:42 2015. :) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:52:21 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 13 08:51:54 2015. :) :o :) |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 09:09:48 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:50:42 2015. Didn't you get fired from a mail room? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:14:59 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 08:50:42 2015. Why? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 09:27:22 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:14:59 2015. Because look at him! How could someone like him hold down a job? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 09:28:38 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 09:09:48 2015. You tell me. Did I or didn't I? And what does that have to do with you? You made the claim that you are gainfully employed and I doubt that. At least not in any sort of respectable job (which includes most jobs). |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:31:29 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 09:27:22 2015. You'd be surprised. Like Train Dude (just to cite one obvious example out of many), his personality at work might be far different from his personality here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 13 09:59:16 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:36 2015. Wait, what?I was agreeing with you. Oh? Why? See above. As long as a person intends to commit a particular crime, it doesn't usually make a difference why. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 13 10:02:50 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:31:29 2015. That may be true, however, forgetting his personality (which may or may not be how he is in real life, but by judging by his experiences railfanning he has posted here in the past, it seems its not far from how he acts here - but that's another story)....Terrapin DID mention what he looks like not his personality. It's no secret his hygiene leads much to be desired. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 10:35:37 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:31:29 2015. It's not his personality. It's his views. His worldview. His opinions. His fantasies. His complete lack of understanding basic concepts. His complete lack of ability to participate in normal conversation. His complete trust of obvious trolls. Etc. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 10:36:19 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 13 10:02:50 2015. And there's that too. But no, I was referring to what you can "see" from his posts here. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:01:51 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:26 2015. Yeah, that kid in the Pink Houses last month. He should have NEVER been shot.Your second question, are you talking about criminals committing offenses or just innocent people walking down the street? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:11:48 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:19 2015. I don't know at the moment and I'm not gonna search for it as I don't care and it still doesn't make what I said any less untrue. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:24:37 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:29 2015. Wow!! You REALLY have me "on the ropes" with your vastly superior cerebral skills. No WONDER why it's said that you can never lose an argument! Let's see..... First MAKE UP "quotes" and then post them here as if I really said those things when I didn't.THEN say that you proved me wrong when, in fact, you've done nothing of the sort. You are REALLY trying to fan this whole "racial" thing by out-and-out writing things like the above and then attributing them to me as I said them, which was false. You're also like a chick. You take my quotes, change the wording around, and post what you THINK they meant and then say that they're mine when they're not. More blacks are killed by the police percentagewise because more blacks commit violent crimes percentagewise. IF blacks didn't commit crimes, they wouldn't go to prison. That also goes for other races. I already said the kid from the Pink Houses should not have been shot. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:25:31 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:33 2015. Are you Nilet or Carnac? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:28 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:31:29 2015. Like Train Dude (just to cite one obvious example out of many), his personality at work might be far different from his personality here.Um no, it's just that my coworkers are adults rather than brain damaged toddlers so they don't have any problems with me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:30 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 13 10:02:50 2015. That may be true, however, forgetting his personality (which may or may not be how he is in real life, but by judging by his experiences railfanning he has posted here in the past, it seems its not far from how he acts here - but that's another story)I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Do try to be more coherent in the future. It's no secret his hygiene leads much to be desired. My hygiene leads much to be desired? As in, you think it's so good that it should be held up as a positive example? Um, we've never actually met so there's no way you could possibly know, but thanks anyway I guess. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:32 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 10:35:37 2015. It's not his personality. It's his views.(a) Which "views" are you referring to? (b) How do they supposedly prevent me from doing my job? His worldview. (a) Which "worldviews" are you referring to? (b) How do they supposedly prevent me from doing my job? His opinions. (a) Which opinions are you referring to? (b) How do they supposedly prevent me from doing my job? His fantasies. (a) Which "fantasies" are you referring to? Because I'm pretty sure I haven't expressed any on SubChat. (b) How do they supposedly prevent me from doing my job? (c) How would any fantasy prevent anyone from doing any job? His complete lack of understanding basic concepts. (a) What basic concepts have I supposedly failed to understand? (b) Prove it. His complete lack of ability to participate in normal conversation. Um, considering that I have conversations all the time, I'll figure you just pulled this one out of your psychotic fantasy world. Have you ever considered that maybe you might be the one with the problem? Because I manage to have normal conversations with everyone except you, while you can't manage a normal conversation with anyone. His complete trust of obvious trolls. What "obvious trolls" are you referring to? Because you, Dave, Bill, Chris (sometimes both), Train Dude and Olog are all obvious trolls but considering that I generally describe you all as brain damaged toddlers, I doubt you'd be able to spin that as "trust." |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:35 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 09:27:22 2015. ...says the person who got fired from a mail room because he can't act like an adult for five minutes. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:37 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 13 09:14:59 2015. Because he's an asshole with no life. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:39 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 09:28:38 2015. You tell me. Did I or didn't I?Yes. You did. It was part of that breakdown you had a few years ago, when you exploded and demanded Larry delete large numbers of threads and claimed I "betrayed" you and so forth. And what does that have to do with you? You smugly declare that you doubt I have a job when you can't hold down even a simple job yourself. You made the claim that you are gainfully employed and I doubt that. Luckily, my paycheck is not contingent on whether some unemployable manchild on the internet believes I've earned it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:43 2015, in response to Re: I Need An Opinion From Selkirk, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 13 09:59:16 2015. I was agreeing with you.OIC. See above. As long as a person intends to commit a particular crime, it doesn't usually make a difference why. Except it does. A hate crime is, by definition, a crime committed because of prejudice against a particular group, generally geared towards oppressing that group. As such, it's terroristic in nature— if you kill someone because you want their wallet, that crime has only one victim (the person you killed) but if you kill someone because they're black then the crime has many victims; the person you killed, of course, but also the vast group of people you've terrorised with the unspoken threat that they might be next. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:45 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:01:51 2015. Yeah, that kid in the Pink Houses last month. He should have NEVER been shot.Which kid are you referring to? Your second question, are you talking about criminals committing offenses or just innocent people walking down the street? It doesn't really matter. Black criminals are more likely to be shot than white criminals. Black people walking down the street are more likely to be shot than white people walking down the street. Hell, black people walking down the street are more likely to be shot than white criminals. Why is this the case? Why does having darker skin make you so much more likely to be killed by the police? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:47 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:24:37 2015. Wow!! You REALLY have me "on the ropes" with your vastly superior cerebral skills. No WONDER why it's said that you can never lose an argument!Saying the truth sarcastically doesn't make it stop being true. Let's see..... First MAKE UP "quotes" and then post them here as if I really said those things when I didn't. What quotes have I "made up?" Making logical deductions is how shit works. THEN say that you proved me wrong when, in fact, you've done nothing of the sort. I already posted the links. Your response was and continues to be: "NUH-UH!" You are REALLY trying to fan this whole "racial" thing by out-and-out writing things like the above and then attributing them to me as I said them, which was false. Read the goddamn links. I linked to your posts. If you continue to deny, I'm gonna link to this one. You're also like a chick. In what way do I resemble a recently hatched bird? You take my quotes, change the wording around, and post what you THINK they meant and then say that they're mine when they're not. If you'd like to offer an alternate explanation for what you meant, be my guest. Start by explaining exactly how you think Michael Brown was a "criminal." Then do the same for Tamir Rice and Oscar Grant. Then explain why shootings involving white killers and black victims garner a very different response from you than shootings involving black killers. More blacks are killed by the police percentagewise because more blacks commit violent crimes percentagewise. IF blacks didn't commit crimes, they wouldn't go to prison. Ah, so you're saying that black people are criminals. I mean sure, you said it before, but thanks for admitting it openly. I think we can now agree that you are a racist. I already said the kid from the Pink Houses should not have been shot. Which kid? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:49 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:11:48 2015. So then you accept the points as given:(1) I don't actually mock people for double posting as a matter of course, but (2) I make an exception in your case because you're an asshole. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:26:51 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Jan 13 10:36:19 2015. But no, I was referring to what you can "see" from his posts here.That I'm an ordinary sensible person who has a few odd hobbies like trains and making fun of idiots on the internet? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 14 00:47:45 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:28 2015. Lots of comradery around the french fry maker? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 14 01:10:07 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 13 21:01:51 2015. He should have NEVER been shot.I agree. That officer sounds like he was way too scared to be able to function. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 01:14:01 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 14 00:47:45 2015. Nah, the boss won't spring for a french fry maker in the break room. :( |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 14 04:44:14 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:47 2015. 1. Exactly.2. First off, your deductions are not logical, NOR are they correct. 3. The links that you post do not prove your point at ALL. In fact, it's quite the contrary. 4. Link all you want. You're my little bitch so if it makes you feel better that you want to be riding my nutsack, so be it. Of course I like women (an alien concept to you) so alas, it'll never be! And like I said, your links will not prove anything as usual. 5. Yeah. I kinda figured that you wouldn't know what a chick was, besides the literal meaning. 6. I mean what I write. No hidden meanings. Only YOU think there are. 7. Are you kidding me? Michael Brown was a strong-arm robber who had just done just that before Wilson drove up upon him. And, of course, in true criminal fashion, he had to mouth off and fight Wilson as well. Tamir Rice shouldn't have been pointing the airsoft pistol at people, thus prompting people to call 911 and then the police dispatcher having to give out the call as someone with a gun pointing it at people. Tamir making a hand gesture toward his waist sealed his fate. I never discussed Oscar Grant, so why should I do it now, because you told me to? Nigga please! Where did I discuss white killers with black victims? I discussed police (race irrelevant) having to utilize DPF against assailants (race irrelevant). You see how this works? Open up your mind and stop being so closed-minded. And what about the killing from 2013 of the guy who thankfully got mowed down before he caould shoot a cop? I feel the same way. Savage is as savage does. 8. Yes, black people are criminals. Not all of them. White people are criminals. Not all of them. Asian people are criminals. Not all of them. Hispanic people are criminals. Not all of them. Do you see how this works? BTW, YOU calling me a racist has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on my life. You are just dismissed as an unstable nutcase. In fact, truth be told, I'm paying you too much mind at the moment when I shouldn't be. 9. For Christ's Sake look it up. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 14 04:48:30 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:45 2015. Black people walking down the street ARE more likely to be shot than white people.......By other blacks!Most of the time, the white criminals DON'T want to get shot so they listen to whomever is telling them to stop and drop the weapons they have instead of trying to be "gangsta" and defy the powers that be. Look how that worked out for Brown and Garner! I assume that you are over 25 years old. So you KNOW the answer to your last question. You know it, I know it, we ALL know it. And like I said, look it up (the Pink Houses shooting) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 14 04:49:34 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 14 01:10:07 2015. Yep! Even though he was a career criminal, but even THAT wasn't justifiable to shoot him when he wasn't doing anything. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 14 04:50:24 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Wed Jan 14 00:11:49 2015. Keep carrying on...... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 14 04:52:44 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Nilet on Tue Jan 13 08:46:26 2015. So why are black people disproportionately likely to be killed by the police?Have you seen the viral stat "Every 28 hours an unarmed black........"? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 14 06:14:14 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 14 04:52:44 2015. Disproportionately? In 2013 in the U.S. there were roughly 12 million arrests. 350 people died at the hands of police and 123 of those were black. Statistically, that ain't many. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jan 14 06:16:35 2015, in response to Re: Seriously?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jan 14 06:14:14 2015. yeah. we had a few cases here in Florida where whites died at hands of police.they don't make national headlines. |
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