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Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014

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A lot of people here have been claiming that Wilson shot Brown in self-defense, and some have even made the same claim regarding the deaths of Trayvon Martin and Tamir Rice.

Unfortunately, in Florida a woman was arrested for shooting in self-defense even though she only fired a warning shot and didn't actually shoot her attacker. She's already been locked up for a few years now and is facing a lengthy sentence thanks to an overzealous prosecutor.

Perhaps these advocates of the right to self-defense would like to sign this petition to have said overzealous prosecutor suspended and replaced with someone who respects the right to self-defense.

Note: The person who attempted to exercise the right to self-defense in this case was black, but Bill, rkba, GP Chris, Silence, and so forth have assured me that this doesn't matter to them, so I expect they'll be signing the petition in short order.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 22 00:08:40 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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You'll be waiting a while for those hypocrites.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 00:13:10 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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I know ALL about this case and yes, she should have gotten a medal instead of getting locked up. BTW, stop mentioning my name on your threads if I'm not involved. Go dream about someone else.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 22 00:21:19 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 00:13:10 2014.

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You forgot to double-post.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 00:24:16 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by SMAZ on Mon Dec 22 00:21:19 2014.

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That's the computer doing that.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 00:35:55 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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I don't sign petitions.

But if I did, I WOULD sign this one.

The prosecutor in this case is the same woman who did a terrible job with the Zimmerman/Martin case, and nerly as bad in the case where the guy shot into the SUV over the loud music.

There is a distinct difference between having an opinion on an outcome and commenting on the proceeding.



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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 00:41:57 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 00:35:55 2014.

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You know what, maybe I will sign it. Just to prove to SOMEBODY I have morals and stick to them.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Dec 22 00:43:06 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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OLD FUCKING NEWS! Another man bites dog, story due soon.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 22 01:13:54 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 00:35:55 2014.

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I think he's just mad that MoveOn.org has a petition on its site calling for the resignation of Mayor De Blasio.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:41:30 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 22 01:13:54 2014.

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I think

Well that's a lie right there.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:42:08 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 00:24:16 2014.

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Ah, so you believe guns kill people? That's good to hear.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:43:10 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 00:13:10 2014.

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BTW, stop mentioning my name on your threads if I'm not involved.

You are involved. This is a thread about your proclivities and hypocrisies.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:44:15 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by The Silence on Mon Dec 22 00:41:57 2014.

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More like to prove you're not a hypocrite when explicitly called on it?

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 01:55:44 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:43:10 2014.

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I happen to think that this is a miscarriage of justice. She should have been praised instead,so HOW is that hypocrisy?

Even though you'll NEVER admit it, you were just ASSuming things about me ONCE AGAIN that simply are not true.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 01:56:33 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 01:42:08 2014.

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What the hell are you talking about now? People kill people.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:10:04 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 01:55:44 2014.

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Your racism is well established. No assumptions necessary.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:10:59 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 01:56:33 2014.

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You just said computers double post, so presumably guns kill people.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 02:19:09 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:10:04 2014.

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Ive asked you several times already to show me how you've come to this conclusion but you don't.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 02:19:58 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:10:59 2014.

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Nope. People kill people.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:40:40 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 02:19:58 2014.

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So then your previous post was a lie?

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Dec 22 02:45:23 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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IAWTP !!


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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 03:08:06 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 02:19:09 2014.

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Ive asked you several times already to show me how you've come to this conclusion but you don't.

I've shown your racism many times. You just keep ignoring it.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 03:48:41 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 02:40:40 2014.

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No it was not.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 03:57:36 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 03:08:06 2014.

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NONE of the things you just showed me doesn't prove I'm a racist. It proves that I'm a realist who goes by facts and logic, NOT hyperbole such as yourself.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 22 05:01:12 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 22 00:08:40 2014.

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You're the hypocrite

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:06 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 03:48:41 2014.

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So you believe that computers are sapient and capable of acting without human intervention in a way that guns can't?

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:15 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 03:57:36 2014.

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Case in point. I presented the evidence, and you simply ignored it.

Oh and smooth move with the "I'm not a racist, I'm a realist" claptrap— that's just more proof. You're not even trying to hide it at this point.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:24 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Dec 22 05:01:12 2014.

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You don't even know what that word means.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:01:42 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:15 2014.

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Being a realist means someone is racist? Wow! I never knew that!!

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:03:00 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:15 2014.

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What evidence? *I* didn't see any.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:05:23 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Mon Dec 22 06:22:06 2014.

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Computers are MACHINES...

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:12 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:03:00 2014.

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Well no, you wouldn't see it— Dunning-Kruger and all that. Don't worry, everyone else knows damn well.

In fact, you probably know it yourself. You don't want to incur the social disapproval of formally announcing that you're a racist, but it's not like you're unaware of it yourself.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:15 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:01:42 2014.

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No, the fact that you consider the murder of a black kid to be inherently justified regardless of the circumstances while declaring that a black man who is so much accused of murder is a "savage" proves you're a racist— I've offered ample evidence.

That you react to said evidence by saying: "I'm not a racist, I'm a race realist" just proves again what everyone already knew. All you have to do now is claim you have a black best friend.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:31 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 22 14:05:23 2014.

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As are guns. Do you believe that they are sapient machines?

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:46:51 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:12 2014.

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You truly are a nutjob......

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:48:32 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:15 2014.

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Nooo... The circumstances ALONE determine if it's justified or not.

Nice try, but I said realist.

My best friend is white.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:51:58 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Tue Dec 23 00:50:31 2014.

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We aren't talking about guns.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 23 12:14:57 2014, in response to Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 21:45:16 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Dec 23 12:40:45 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Dec 23 12:14:57 2014.

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Your wittle buddy.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 25 06:25:36 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:51:58 2014.

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Yes we are.

Or rather, I'm pointing out the inconsistencies in your belief system, where a gun is not involved in a shooting at all because only "people" can kill, yet your computer apparently double posts entirely of its own accord without any input from you.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 25 06:35:18 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:46:51 2014.

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Re: Arrested For Self-Defense

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 25 06:36:44 2014, in response to Re: Arrested For Self-Defense, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Dec 23 03:48:32 2014.

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Nooo... The circumstances ALONE determine if it's justified or not.

Except you've declared time and again that killing black people is justified regardless of the circumstances.

Nice try, but I said realist.

Playing dumb word games won't help you.

You have expressed the opinion that can be summarised as: "I would like to see racial equality, but as a realist, I'm forced to accept the unfortunate fact that white people are the master race and black people are all 'thugs' and 'animals' much though I wish this weren't true."

Whether you say the exact phrase "race realist" only affects quoted google searches.

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