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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 21 12:43:34 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:41:29 2014.

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The Pa. killer was a known white supremacist, and had repeatedly ststed his animus towards police on social media.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:48:46 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:42:40 2014.

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It's same as saying "the courts have spoken" about these 2 grand juries.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:50:34 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:48:46 2014.

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Hardly. The grand jury has spoken. No Indictment. What trial is going on and what is getting worse?

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:53:28 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:50:34 2014.

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It's obvious he used "trial" incorrectly. He's right about the Ferguson case looking shady.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:53:59 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 12:05:43 2014.

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Exactly.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 12:54:59 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 03:16:53 2014.

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C is where you prove you don't know anything.

Brown robbed a store and assaulted it's owner. The owner called the cops. The cops knew about Brown and were out looking for him.

Stop lying to defend Brown, he was the aggressor, Wilson was the victim!

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:54:59 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:53:28 2014.

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Can he not speak for himself? It may be obvious to you but I'd like to hear what bullshit he had in his own mind.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:57:05 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:54:59 2014.

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LOL, suit yourself.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 21 12:58:24 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 12:54:59 2014.

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The owner of the Ferguson Market said he never called the cops about Brown. Wilson admitted he knew nothing about Brown's alleged theft when he accosted the victim.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:00:03 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:57:05 2014.

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Thank you

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:02:07 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 21 12:58:24 2014.

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True. BUT Brown didn't know that. Wilson approached Brown because he was acting thuggishly, walking down the middle of the street and blocking traffic. Brown apparently believed that Wilson was there because of the strong-arm robbery that brown had committed at the market.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 13:09:18 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 02:58:47 2014.

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All communications are monitored without warrants.

Communications are not always subject to warrants. The feds can legally open any email that is over 180 days old without a warrant.

Police are not subject to any oversight and brutally crack down on protests,

You need to learn the difference between a protest and a riot. You have a right of Peaceful assembly. Once people stop being peaceful, you no longer have a right to assemble.

often using nerve gas

they don't have nerve gas. tear gas is not nerve gas. Nerve gas is potentially lethal. Tear Gas isn't.


and military equipment



Innocent people are arrested without cause, imprisoned without charges, tortured, and killed.

Sritctly speaking everyone who is arrested is innocent, until they are proven guilty.

You can't send someone to prison without a conviction, let along charges. (jail and prison are not the same thing, there is a limit to how long you can be in jail)

I'd ask you to provide examples of torture and killing, but I know you would just swing back to Brown, and he's not the kind of person I'm asking about.


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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:12:39 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:16:35 2014.

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No I posted to who is the reasonable person. The bandwagon you jumped on was the unreasonable hopeless one, not worth time to respond to.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 13:13:22 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 21 12:58:24 2014.

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doesn't matter who knew what, point is, Brown is not a saint and he's not the victim, ether.

So I still want to know why people insist on making him as such.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:17:16 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 13:13:22 2014.

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It's an excuse to extort from municipal authority. If all "black lives matter" then why are they not going after the murders of young black men in places like Newark or Chicago.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 13:18:33 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:12:39 2014.

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Yeah but I only sarcastically called you "the centrist" and the rest of your post doesn't apply to me.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Were people ''clapping and laughing'' at the scene? (2 cops shot)

Posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 21 13:23:10 2014, in response to Were people "clapping and laughing" at the scene? (2 cops shot), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 12:06:09 2014.

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"No time for politics" refers to the execrable attempts of the police union to politicize this tragedy.

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Re: Were people ''clapping and laughing'' at the scene? (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 13:24:01 2014, in response to Were people "clapping and laughing" at the scene? (2 cops shot), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 12:06:09 2014.

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Of course. It's a black neighborhood.

I'm sure the shooter chose Bed-Stuy because it's a black neighborhood and he wanted to represent.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 21 13:25:33 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 12:06:48 2014.

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I'm discussing Dave's accusation against Salaam and you say:

Dividers like sharpton will have ev n less sympathy for his shit after rousing people up like this.

So I point out that Sharpton probably doesn't know or care about either of them.

If your word "his" referred to someone different you need to say so, since the discussion was clearly about Dave and Salaam. I've got no clue whom you're talking about when you say "his" if it's not Dave or Salaam.







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Re: Were people ''clapping and laughing'' at the scene? (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 13:28:30 2014, in response to Were people "clapping and laughing" at the scene? (2 cops shot), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 12:06:09 2014.

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NFL and NBA players encouraged this too.



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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by The Silence on Sun Dec 21 13:33:04 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:17:16 2014.

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Been saying that for years and I get shot down by the real racists.

Step one in fixing the African American community's problems is to admit what their problem is...

And it's not the cops, the DAs or the government in general.

It's not that they are black.

It's what they let themselves get away with to the point they think they have the right to do it in general.

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Re: Were people ''clapping and laughing'' at the scene? (2 cops shot)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 13:33:10 2014, in response to Re: Were people ''clapping and laughing'' at the scene? (2 cops shot), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 13:28:30 2014.

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Can't stand watching major league sports these days. And here's another reason not to.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:35:50 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 21 12:43:34 2014.

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The garbage that killed the two cops was just as bad as that garbage you speak of. He premeditated on social media. Garbage us garbage....but I know you can never come to say it....it always has to be the "well this guy.....". Sad

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Dec 21 13:36:03 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:54:59 2014.

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Sorry for the slow reply I do other things child not feeling well, household choirs, etc. I meant grand jury omit the word trial. As for what I had on my mind, that is already in my post. If you want a summary this is it the grand jury was terribly flawed either the prosecutor was either incompetent or it was a tank job on his part.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:40:32 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 12:40:01 2014.

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He makes Dinkins look like a great mayor. Dinkins wasn't nearly as bad as Deblasio.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:45:30 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Dec 21 13:36:03 2014.

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There was no need to be so about the specific grand jury's shortcomings in your charges.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:46:31 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:40:32 2014.

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And just think, DeLousio has more than 3 years left to fuck things up.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sun Dec 21 13:56:27 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:45:30 2014.

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??? Not being sarcastic but don't understand what you are saying here.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:09:35 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Train Dude on Sun Dec 21 13:46:31 2014.

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Its really bad. He's even worse than it was thought he would be. And the city has been doingso well. All you need is someone lLuke him to set the city back to the 60s

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Murderer suspected to have been member of "Black Guerrilla Family" prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:12:22 2014, in response to 2 COPS SHOT, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Dec 20 17:16:49 2014.

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NYDN

Police believe New York City cop killer was a member of the Black Guerrilla Family: sources

Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, shot two cops dead as they sat in a patrol car in Bedford-Stuyvesant to avenge the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner. He also shot his former girlfriend at her home in the Baltimore area on Saturday morning, police said. Law enforcement sources said the NYPD has dispatched investigators to Baltimore to probe Brinsley's past and suspected involvement with the Black Guerrilla Family prison gang.

By Tina Moore, Bill Hutchinson
Saturday, December 20, 2014, 7:11 PM
The cold-blooded cop-hater who gunned down two police officers in Brooklyn on Saturday is suspected of being a member of a notorious prison gang that has declared open season on the NYPD.

Detectives were headed to Baltimore on Saturday night to probe Ismaaiyl Brinsley’s ties to the Black Guerrilla Family, sources told the Daily News.

One source said Baltimore police were already investigating Brinsley’s connection to the gang, which started in California’s San Quentin Prison in the 1960s by Black Panther member George Jackson.

“BGF has been talking about getting back at cops for Eric Garner and Ferguson,” a source told The News, citing intelligence intercepted in Baltimore area prisons.

Brinsley boasted on social media about wanting to kill cops hours before ambushing two police officers on Saturday afternoon as they sat in their patrol car outside the Tompkins Houses in Bedford-Stuyvesant.

“I’m putting wings on pigs today,” he posted on Instagram, referencing the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in Staten Island.

At a press conference on Saturday night, Mayor de Blasio called Brinsley "this horrible assassin."

Brinsley, 28, also shot his former girlfriend in her home outside of Baltimore about 5:45 a.m. before traveling to New York, NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton said. He took his life by shooting himself in the head inside a subway station near the Tompkins Houses after ambushing the two cops.

The stunning events in New York came just days after Black Guerrilla Family members began spreading the word that they were “preparing to shoot on-duty police officers.”

As the Daily News reported on Dec. 6, an undercover NYPD cop learned of a Black Guerrilla Family plot to kill NYPD officers on Dec. 5 — three days after a Staten Island grand jury decided not to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo in Garner’s chokehold death in July. At least ten BGF members were “preparing to shoot on duty police officers,” Sergeants Benevolent Association President Ed Mullins said at the time.

The threat prompted police union leaders to advise NYPD officers to take extra precautions, including carrying additional ammunition and wearing bullet-proof vests at all times.

But the NYPD investigated the intelligence and later deemed, as The News reported on Dec. 7, that there was no "credible threat" posed by the BGF. “We are aware of the reports of this anonymous general threat against police. However, at this time there is no information to indicate that this is a credible threat against the NYPD,” an NYPD spokesman said at the time.

There also was another reported threat. On Nov. 25, the NYPD spokesman said then, a police department outside of New York received a threat through an anonymous 911 call. The call, which was made to the Baltimore police department, threatened violent retribution against “cops” but did not name a specific department, according to a police source.

Investigative work on that call led NYPD investigators to conclude that the November threat was not real, the NYPD spokesman said, but the department would continue to monitor developments.

Bratton said at the press conference Saturday night that after Brinsley shot his former flame, her family notified Baltimore authorities that he was posting threats on Instagram. The authorities there sent a warning to the NYPD by fax, but it was not received until right about the time that Brinsely struck in Bed-Stuy, Bratton said.

Last year Baltimore law enforcement officials cracked down on the BGF’s stranglehold on the Baltimore City Detention Center because the gang was extorting people, intimidating witnesses and dealing drugs with help from correction officers. An investigation led to the arrest of two inmates and five corrections officers on charges of extortion, witness intimidation and drug dealing in the city jail.


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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:17:30 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 13:40:32 2014.

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Only because everything was torn down already by Dinkins' predecessors. Wilhelm is doing very rapid tearing down of what was built back up.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Dec 21 14:20:38 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:09:35 2014.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 14:21:39 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Dec 21 14:20:38 2014.

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I'm DONE.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:25:24 2014, in response to Murderer suspected to have been member of "Black Guerrilla Family" prison gang (2 cops shot), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:12:22 2014.

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Some sources say he shot her for threatening to go to police.

I really want to see what she looks like.

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Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:28:15 2014, in response to Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:25:24 2014.

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WBAL says her name is "Shaneka".

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Re: 2 CÔPS SHÕT

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:31:14 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Dec 21 14:20:38 2014.

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Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:32:21 2014, in response to Murderer suspected to have been member of "Black Guerrilla Family" prison gang (2 cops shot), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:12:22 2014.

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link

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:33:42 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:17:30 2014.

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It started tearing down before he was elected.

It's an international movement. This double assassination would have happened no matter who was in office.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:35:15 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:33:42 2014.

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No, that is not all that true. The old familiar internationalist movement still has to have help from the top.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:38:23 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:33:42 2014.

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This is true....however since Deblasio already shows he doesn't stand by his Police Dept.....

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:39:59 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 21 14:35:15 2014.

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I don't like Wilhelm, but blaming him for this is wrong.

We like in a World Star Hip Hop culture where stealing from stores is a civil right and if cops even respond to a call from the store, it's a racism.

That's why the kid from suburban St. Louis is a civil rights figure to so many. They think he should be allowed to steal cartons of cigarettes and assault the store clerk and enforcing laws is a "police state".

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Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:41:23 2014, in response to Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:32:21 2014.

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Behold the people the left were pushing for since Fergeson.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:50:22 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:38:23 2014.

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We knew before he took office that he was anti-cop.

Look at his background.

Expect a lot of retirements soon.



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Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot)

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:51:12 2014, in response to Re: Murderer suspected to have been member of ''Black Guerrilla Family'' prison gang (2 cops shot), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:41:23 2014.

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pretty much.

Ferguson? LOL. Yes. Stealing from stores is now a civil right.



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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 21 14:52:12 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 21 11:15:56 2014.

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huh ??
wtf ?

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 21 14:53:55 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 21 08:26:10 2014.

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prove when i said i was happy this happened
come on now

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 21 14:54:18 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by Dave on Sun Dec 21 08:20:12 2014.

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prove it dave from texassss

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:54:23 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 21 14:50:22 2014.

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He was already on the shit list of the police dept for weeks. Its terrible the atmosphere he helped create. He makes Obama look like a good leader. He turned the anti-cop element against his own police department. Another divider. Truly sad politician. Very sad.

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 14:54:57 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Dec 21 14:53:55 2014.

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They're trying to nail you on being silent about condemning it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 2 COPS SHOT

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 14:55:47 2014, in response to Re: 2 COPS SHOT, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Dec 21 14:54:23 2014.

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How did he turn the anti-cop element against his own police department?

your pal,
Fred

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