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Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 00:35:19 2014

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Open enrollment season is here, allowing me to visit the health care exchange looking for my choice of coverage.

Except there weren't any choices, because there wasn't any coverage. Exactly zero insurance companies offered to cover my health care costs.

At least a dozen companies offered to take my money without actually paying any of my medical bills, and thanks to Obama and his Republican friends, I am now legally obligated to pay them money in exchange for "insurance" that forces me to pay out of pocket for my medical expenses anyway.

People who claimed Obama was a liberal may now line up on the extreme right to issue retractions and apologies. People who claimed that the ACA was genuinely health care reform and would actually improve things may line up in the center and offer to pay my medical bills, because I can't get insurance that will.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 00:38:34 2014, in response to Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 00:35:19 2014.

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What state are you in? I've equally spent hours ( for one of my sons) and I had no such problems.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 00:42:02 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 00:38:34 2014.

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New York.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 18 00:51:21 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 00:38:34 2014.

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Don't bother. Nilet has some unmentionable disease or ailment (are you really surprised?) that no insurance company in their right mind wants to touch with a 10 foot pole. Do you blame them? I don't. I think the system is working just as designed. Thank you President Obama! G-d bless America - where the really annoying people are weeded out and gotten rid of through interesting methods such as not offering them health insurance.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 01:01:14 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 18 00:51:21 2014.

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Nilet has some unmentionable disease or ailment...

Oh it's perfectly mentionable— just not to you.

...that no insurance company in their right mind wants to touch with a 10 foot pole. Do you blame them? I don't. I think the system is working just as designed.

Exactly— the system is working as designed by denying people access to health care so that insurance companies can make larger profits.

Problem is, Obama & Friends have been saying the goal was to provide health care, not to deny it.

Thank you President Obama! God bless America - where the really annoying people are weeded out and gotten rid of through interesting methods such as not offering them health insurance.

Are you saying you don't have health insurance? Because "really annoying" is a very apt description of you.

Also, what's with the "G-d" thing?

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 18 01:37:19 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 01:01:14 2014.

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Thanks for proving my point. Good night.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 02:10:28 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Dec 18 01:37:19 2014.

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Well you're just as autistic as ever. Tell me, do you actually respond to outside stimuli? Because your posts often read like half a conversation you're having with some imaginary person in your head.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 17:10:31 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 00:42:02 2014.

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Me too. There are plenty of choices. The only real problem with NY -- and this is a NY choice, not mandated by Obama, -- is that all the plans use closed networks -- if you go out-of-network, there is no coverage. Perhaps this is your problem?

But if you find a plan in which your main doctors participate, you should be able to find a reasonably priced pan. And if you don't make a ton of money, you may even qualify for premium subsidies which lower costs tremendously.

Regarding your mystery unnamed condition, none of the plans are allowed to -- nor do they -- ask about your pre-existing conditions.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 18 18:08:38 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 17:10:31 2014.

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Ah, they all used closed plans. Maybe his condition can only be treated by a type of doctor that the plans do not include.



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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 18:29:11 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 18 18:08:38 2014.

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Certainly possible. Thank Cuomo for that one.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 18 18:41:08 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 00:38:34 2014.

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The state of confusion.


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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 18 18:57:01 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 18 18:41:08 2014.

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LOL

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Dec 18 19:14:09 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 18 18:41:08 2014.

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Losing Control by the Hour

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 21:27:05 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 01:01:14 2014.

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Obama is nothing compared to what we'll have as a President in coming years. He'll be seen as a moderate to right-leaning by comparison to what I have in mind.

Terrapin is a hopeless troll. You make him look stupid too.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 18 21:49:22 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 21:27:05 2014.

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Still kissing nilet's ass huh?

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Dec 18 22:05:55 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 21:27:05 2014.

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Obama is already to the right of Nixon.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 22:23:27 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Dec 18 21:49:22 2014.

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you are embarrassing yourself. Nilet is a good guy.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 19 00:09:30 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Dec 18 17:10:31 2014.

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The only real problem with NY -- and this is a NY choice, not mandated by Obama, -- is that all the plans use closed networks -- if you go out-of-network, there is no coverage.

If we had a federal single payer system, none of this would matter.

But if you find a plan in which your main doctors participate...

And if I find a time machine, I'll take pictures of the 6th Avenue el.

none of the plans are allowed to -- nor do they -- ask about your pre-existing conditions.

It doesn't matter why they won't cover me, I'm still paying out of pocket.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 19 00:51:13 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 18 22:23:27 2014.

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Fuck you

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 02:46:09 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 19 00:51:13 2014.

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please stop embarrassing yourself.

Your obsession with Nilet is unhealthy.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 19 03:40:02 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 02:46:09 2014.

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You're a fraud.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Dec 19 05:08:33 2014, in response to Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 18 00:35:19 2014.

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What republicans wanted Obumma care ? Most did not it was rammed down our throats by dems.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Dec 19 07:26:37 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 19 00:09:30 2014.

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Hopefully you'll have to pay so much out of pocket that you won't be able to afford internet service of any type. G-d bless Anerica and Obama for providing me with an insurance plan that provides for all my family's needs.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Dec 19 09:45:19 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Dec 18 19:14:09 2014.

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Meh. I prefer this version :)



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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 07:09:12 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by busdude2 on Fri Dec 19 05:08:33 2014.

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What republicans wanted Obumma care ?

The Republicans wrote "Obamacare."

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 07:15:55 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Dec 19 07:26:37 2014.

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And I take it your god endorses the wishing of harm upon others?

It's obvious that צדקה isn't something you believe in. Perhaps God sent you a private message that you should be an obnoxious fuckstain instead.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 07:24:45 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Dec 19 02:46:09 2014.

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Eh, plenty people are more obsessed with me than he is. Admittedly, he's the only American to have that level of hatred, but being as he's a railfan it's not entirely unexpected. He's probably just miffed that I scrapped my heritage fleet rather than try to retrofit them all when I standardised everything.

Tell Chicagomotorman that if he comes to my country, I'll give him a free system-wide pass valid for an entire month. Pass valid for 720 hours starting from first usage. Not valid on Cricket Star Express trains. A step-up charge of 5/50 will be assessed on Firefly Express trains. Limit four trips per 24-hour period.

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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 21 12:44:23 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Nilet on Sun Dec 21 07:09:12 2014.

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Yep. The legislative progression was Dolecare ==> Romneycare.

Heritage Foundation in the 1980's also wanted mandatory coverage to prevent freeloading in the Emergency Rooms. Hillarycare did not focus on that


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Re: Thanks, Obama!

Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 21 12:49:37 2014, in response to Re: Thanks, Obama!, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 21 12:44:23 2014.

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IINM that was also the GOP alternative plan to what Clinton proposed.

your pal,
Fred

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