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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 30 01:04:37 2014 fiogf49gjkf0d Associated Press Dems rush to save suddenly vulnerable incumbents By Donna Cassata Oct 29, 2014 9:39 PM EDT Desperate Democrats are rushing to save suddenly vulnerable House incumbents, even in states where President Barack Obama cruised to double-digit victories, amid fresh signs of Republican momentum less than a week before the midterm elections. The once friendly terrain of New York, California, Obama's native state of Hawaii and adopted state of Illinois all now pose stiff challenges to Democrats who are determined to limit their losses next Tuesday. Both parties agree the GOP will hold its House majority; the question is whether Republicans can gain enough seats to rival their post-World War II high water mark of 246. The current breakdown is 233-199 in favor of the Republicans with three vacancies. "We're in trench warfare. I'm not going to sugarcoat it," Rep. Steve Israel, D-N.Y., chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said in an interview. In one sign of Democratic concern, Vice President Joe Biden was heading to Massachusetts on Wednesday for a rally with Seth Moulton, who is trying to hold onto a Democratic seat against Republican Richard Tisei. Then Biden was traveling to California on Saturday to campaign in an open-seat contest east of Los Angeles that surprisingly looks closer than a sure-fire Democratic gain. "Heck, it's been so long since a Republican was elected to the Congress in Massachusetts, most Republicans don't know how to spell Massachusetts," joked Rep. Greg Walden of Oregon, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. He said the GOP is spending 78 percent of its independent money in districts that Obama won. National Democrats are coordinating with local campaigns in Nevada, Hawaii and California in hopes of holding seats. In one example, the Democratic committee has bought $99,000 in radio ads for eight-term Rep. Lois Capps in her Santa Barbara-area race against Chris Mitchum, the son of the late actor Robert Mitchum. The GOP candidate has relatively little money still on hand for his campaign — $96,108 — but the contest is considered close. The committee also reserved $360,000 in air time for ads for first-term Rep. Steven Horsford in his central Nevada district north of Las Vegas after the Karl Rove-founded group Crossroads GPS made a late ad buy of $935,000. And In Hawaii, the Democrats are spending $200,000 on television ads and voter outreach for Mark Takai, who is locked in a tight race with former Republican Rep. Charles Djou in an open Honolulu-based district that Obama won with 70 percent of the vote. In the closing days, the Democratic committee has invested $1.1 million in an effort to protect six incumbents in Georgia, Illinois, Minnesota, West Virginia and California. With Obama persona non grata for many Democrats, former President Bill Clinton was campaigning in California on Wednesday. "It's a tough climate, it's getting tougher," Israel said. "It's the worst climate for Democrats since 2010, but it won't be 2010. We knew that this was coming and we prepared for it." The Democrats lost 63 House seats that year. Any president's party typically loses seats at the halfway point of his final term. This time the situation has gotten worse for Democrats — and better for Republicans — as Obama's unpopularity has dragged down his party, GOP-leaning outside groups have spent freely and some independents have shifted to the Republicans. "It's a referendum year on the president and his policies," Walden said in an interview. "We faced it in `06, and I know how ugly it can be." With George W. Bush in the White House, the Republicans lost 30 seats in the House and six in the Senate in 2006. Twenty-three incumbent Democrats are seen as in jeopardy compared to just four Republicans. A greater House Republican majority would mean Speaker John Boehner of Ohio would be able to weather more defections on legislation and still get bills passed. In Iowa, Republican Gov. Terry Branstad's strength and Democratic Senate candidate Bruce Braley's struggles are undercutting four-term Rep. Dave Loebsack and Democratic hopes of holding Braley's open seat. Three New York Democrats are endangered even though Gov. Andrew Cuomo is widely expected to capture another term. The same is true in California where Gov. Jerry Brown is an odds-on favorite to win again but four Democrats are considered vulnerable. Voters' matter-of-fact attitude toward those two governors' races has generated little energy for other candidates. In all, the Democratic committee has outraised its GOP counterpart, but outside Republican groups have the edge over Democratic-leaning groups $49 million to $31 million since July 1. In a late money appeal, Democratic House leader Nancy Pelosi and Israel convinced Democratic incumbents and candidates to contribute some $500,000 and counting for the final days. The party is relying on a big get-out-the-vote effort after registering 80,000 new voters in battleground districts. Illinois offers one of the tightest races along Chicago's wealthy North Shore and northern suburbs. First-term Democratic Rep. Brad Schneider is in a rematch with Republican Bob Dold, who won in the tea party wave of 2010 and lost in 2012. Republicans are upbeat about reclaiming the seat as Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn struggles to win against Republican Bruce Rauner. "It's a unique opportunity the 10th district hasn't seen in 30 years, comparing one term versus one term," Dold said at the opening of a new upscale grocery. "This year, you're talking about Pat Quinn at the top of the ticket versus President Obama, that's a big difference." Miles away, Schneider toured a manufacturing business with Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, who also faces re-election, and cast the election as a "choice between two very different visions." Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is reviving the "I" word — impeachment — in a fundraising appeal warning about GOP control of the Senate. "Frankly, a Republican House and Senate could go beyond shutting down the government — they could waste months of our lives on impeachment," Reid says in an appeal put out by the Progessive Change Campaign Committee. Associated Press writer Kerry Lester in Chicago contributed to this report. And Dingy Harry has to lie about the (partial, remember) government shutdown—he caused that.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 01:06:07 2014, in response to Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 30 01:04:37 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Enjoy your next two years to finish off America. Once you're in power, there will be no more excuses.
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Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Oct 30 01:11:58 2014, in response to Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 30 01:04:37 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The real stupidity comes from the dummycrats who still try to distance themselves from zerobama while voting with him 95%, 96% or even 99% of the time. Do these dolts think that people can't find out or don't know how they voted. You really know that they are beat when selquiff starts posting his doomsday scenarios for the day after election day.
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Posted by 3-9* on Thu Oct 30 02:01:58 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:06:07 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Nah, they'll still blame liberal judges in the courts. Or if everything gets messed up, accuse the Republicans of being RINOs. It worked before. :-S
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 02:06:12 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 30 02:01:58 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Funniest part of that all is that the majority of judges on federal benches are theirs. They blocked the democratic nominees throughout. And with Obama in there, they will continue to do so. Gotta love attrition as case backlogs continue to go through the roof.
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Posted by 3-9* on Thu Oct 30 02:18:52 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 02:06:12 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d I thought I read somewhere that with the rule change in the Senate where the Republicans can no longer filibuster many appointees, the Democrats have been practically flooding the court benches with new judges.
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Posted by bingbong* on Thu Oct 30 08:17:20 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 30 01:11:58 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d That is because the alternative is harmful. Building the Keystone pipeline through environmentally sensitive areas will do more harm in term of cost than crate jobs, and when completed will only require about 100 permanent positions to operate.....until it leaks at unknown cost and lasting consequences. It is a bad investment and does NOT deserve tax subidies. Their Jobs program is a FAIL. RW economists, your own tribe, are in agreement on this.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 11:49:39 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by 3-9 on Thu Oct 30 02:18:52 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The lower ones perhaps.
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Posted by mtk52983* on Thu Oct 30 12:19:04 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 11:49:39 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d There were a couple of circuits (like the D.C. Circuit) which were close and filling open seats would give nominees of Democratic presidents the majority. Although that does not necessarily give a majority on each panel, if there is rehearing en banc it means on issues that are essentially divided on political party, like PPACA or Abortion restrictions, the Democrats will have a majority
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Posted by R30A* on Thu Oct 30 12:20:39 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 11:49:39 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Everything below Supreme. While what you stated had been true for a long time, there has been a GREAT deal of progress in the last year or so.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Oct 30 12:33:37 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 01:06:07 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d no more excuses !! IAWTP
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 12:35:41 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Oct 30 12:19:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d And of course, can't have that. Besides ... anything of real political interest gets snapped up by Scalia and friends anyway. :-\
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 12:36:59 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by R30A on Thu Oct 30 12:20:39 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ginsburg wants out in the worst way, but knows that a replacement will never get past the Senate. And so she stays.
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Posted by mtk52983* on Thu Oct 30 12:52:03 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 12:36:59 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d she should have retired at the end of last term so her replacement was before the midterms
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 12:57:15 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Oct 30 12:52:03 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d The blockade has been in effect since 2009. She's resigned to the fact that she's going to be removed from the bench on a stretcher.
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Posted by mtk52983* on Thu Oct 30 13:00:31 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 12:57:15 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d But if they try to filibuster a Supreme Court nominee that would be political suicide especially if you are talking about replacing Notorious RBG with another "Liberal" nominee. If Scalia or Thomas was to drop dead and President Obama nominated Goodwin Liu there would be more political cover, but not in this case. Resisting PPACA can be defended, but hard to claim you are not obstructionist when you are resisting like for like on the Supreme Court
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Oct 30 13:09:24 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Oct 30 13:00:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d That may be, but they've got nothing to lose now. The GOP isn't sane anymore. Their way or the highway. And the low information voters don't care. I mean ... look around here. They'd cheer a filibuster because 5-4 isn't enough for them. Crushing defeat or bust.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Oct 30 13:15:08 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 13:09:24 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d iawtp
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:20:06 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 13:09:24 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d I am actually almost convinced you must be some rabid Republican that tries his best to make Democrats look like they are insane.
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 13:26:20 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:20:06 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Hey Chris, he KNOS that you KNO that he KNOS that you KNO. Never underestimate the SelkirkTMO or do so at your own risk. You are now warned.
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Posted by Nilet* on Thu Oct 30 13:31:04 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:20:06 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Ah, so you do act like that around everybody.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Thu Oct 30 13:51:08 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 13:31:04 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL!!! I have no problem with Selkirk....he and I nudge eachother all the time. He knows that....I know that.
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:51:31 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 13:26:20 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Yup.....I definitely KNOS that!!
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:40:39 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 13:26:20 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. Hate to pull a Luch here, but did you see the United Van Lines safety video back there or have you become immune to it? :)
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Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable
Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:41:36 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:20:06 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Shhhhhh! Don't let the others catch on. :)
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 15:25:23 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 14:40:39 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d I have yet to see the new one - I am told it is fairly humorous and fairly good - as I have not deadheaded on Mainline in a while. I hit the PA switch to see if the safety video is finished before interrupting it with the required "Flight Attendants, please be seated for departure" announcement as part of my Before Takeoff flow approaching the runway. Houston and Philadelphia tomorrow with a 30+ hour layover - I need to find me a pub and enjoy a raw afternoon per se of college football.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 30 16:00:17 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 15:25:23 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d Here ya go ... now you can ask for a refund because you've seen it. :) Here. :)
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Posted by Nilet* on Thu Oct 30 20:22:54 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:51:08 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yet you still act like an idiot around him. I think you're trying to tell me that you act like a spoiled child all the time and have mistaken people's polite toleration for acceptance. I'm the only person who's actually called you on it and told you to grow up, so I'm the only person you have a "problem" with.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Thu Oct 30 21:42:17 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 20:22:54 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lol!!! Yeah....that must be I freak!! I have been here since 1998 I this community (SubTalk).....I think I know the people here....and certainly longer than when you showed up.
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Posted by Nilet* on Thu Oct 30 23:08:07 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 30 21:42:17 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You have demonstrated a complete lack of self-awareness so your insistence that everybody likes you means absolutely nothing. You're just upset that I won't tolerate your childish behaviour with a smile or go find a forum that bans people who can't stay civilised.
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris* on Fri Oct 31 04:39:56 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 30 23:08:07 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lol!!! Keep projecting about three childish behavior. Its all you.Lmao!!!
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Posted by Nilet* on Fri Oct 31 08:25:31 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 31 04:39:56 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d You have demonstrated a complete lack of self-awareness, so it's unsurprising that you don't notice how immature you're being. Allow me to demonstrate. Lol!!! Q.E.D.
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 31 09:35:16 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 30 13:20:06 2014. fiogf49gjkf0d How does that post make him or Democrats look insane?
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Posted by Fred G* on Fri Oct 31 10:06:45 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Oct 30 13:26:20 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d Thanks for attacking. unreal. your pal, Fred
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Fri Oct 31 11:38:06 2014, in response to Re: Democrats scrambling to save incumbents that are suddenly vulnerable, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:25:31 2014.* fiogf49gjkf0d LMAO at you!!!!
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