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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:25:03 2014 Our Fundraiser In Chief - Not so much! Zerobama admits that he hasn't a plan to deal with ISIS. |
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Posted by WillD on Fri Aug 29 20:42:06 2014, in response to British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:25:03 2014. How is raising a terror threat level showing leadership? It does nothing to actually defeat ISIS. Like Dubya's counterterrorism "plans" it's the equivalent of playing not to lose. That is in stark contrast to Obama ordering air strikes to directly attack ISIS.All the leadership is on this side of the pond. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 29 20:55:55 2014, in response to British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:25:03 2014. Zerobama admits that he hasn't a plan to deal with ISIS.Act first - think later. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 29 21:36:46 2014, in response to British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:25:03 2014. Well, because if he did order further strikes or other missions then Congress would complain that theyre being ignored like they did during Syria. So with that is David Cameron is showing true leadership by raising the terror level and saying ISIS maybe a threat for years to come?So, do you go to Congress and ask for War Powers? Will congress authorize it with the real potential is may be a prolonged conflict? These are real questions that we need answers too and Congress hasnt shown a willingness to authorize it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 23:33:11 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 29 20:42:06 2014. Yeah, but conservatives like their color-coordinated terror color charts. Ensures that they don't accidentally wear a taupe-colored suit out in public. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 23:34:39 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 29 20:55:55 2014. It helped Iraq become what it is today, part of Iran. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 23:35:16 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 29 21:36:46 2014. They're not even around to ask. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:53:04 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 29 20:42:06 2014. President Bush has been out of office now for 6 years. When are you libertards going to stop using him as an excuse. You picked a lemon. Just admit it and move on. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:58:41 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 29 21:36:46 2014. In my humble opinion, the president should suspend his social activities and call both the senate and house into emergency session and ask for just such powers. If congress doesn't authorize it then its on them if and when the president acts unilaterally but my bet is that he gets bi-partisan support. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:59:29 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 29 20:55:55 2014. The pentagon says it has the plan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 00:27:06 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Aug 29 21:36:46 2014. Congress hasn(')t shown a willingness to authorize itproff? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 07:54:43 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 29 20:42:06 2014. LOL, you're mental."We do not have a strategy — yet" is leadership? Really? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 08:53:38 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:58:41 2014. Sure, and yeah, Congress still will muck about. He might get support for airstrikes and recon missions, but beating ISIS means boots on the grond. That he wont get. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 08:57:38 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:53:04 2014. He's no lemon. Had he not had to spend years fixing the mess bush made, with no assistance from a cooperative Congress focused on fixing what's wrong with America, we'd be doing much much better than we are now. That we're doing at all at this point, given the recalictrant House,shows he's better than we think. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 09:05:50 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 07:54:43 2014. Yes. It by no means entertains the idea that thee will not be one, just that one is not ready yet. Good to see SOMEONE is actually putting some THOUGHT into this for a change.It's wiser to wait a week and go forward with a strategy that will work rather than going and invading a country based on fairytales and bullshit economic delusions and....oh wait....didn't we do that not so l ago? Could it be that action caused this? Let's rethink this.......hmmmm.....gonna need a little more time......oh wait.... |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 09:52:11 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by WillD on Fri Aug 29 20:42:06 2014. Let me guess. You don't like Prime Minister David Cameron. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 09:52:26 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 29 23:33:11 2014. Let me guess. You don't like Prime Minister David Cameron. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 09:57:39 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 08:57:38 2014. It's obama that's is recalcitrant. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:01:27 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 09:57:39 2014. LOL! If so, why hasn't there been a jobs bill?Immigration reform? Equal pay? There's a list of unpassed legislation that would make Luch envious. All passed the Senate, The House won't bring them to a vote. That isn't fair, not giving them a chance. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 10:05:09 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:01:27 2014. Jobs bill? How well did that multi-billion dollar stimulus work? Immigration reform? We need immigration enforcement and restriction. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:06:41 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 08:53:38 2014. And if he does nothing? He continues to look weak and indecisive. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:08:23 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:01:27 2014. Because Harry Reid has blocked EVERY piece of legislation (over 300) passed by the House. Why don't you tell Harry Reid to let House bills come to the senate for a vote. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:09:40 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 30 00:27:06 2014. There is none. The president is still deciding whether to go to congress or use his pen and his phone. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:40:21 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 10:05:09 2014. As expected, would have been better if it had more jobs focused programs instead of tax cuts. We didn't double-dip. Reagan, Bush and bush DID.If immigration is such an urgent issue, why haven't they passed anything? The Senate did, the President said he'd sign that bill. That bill is a good compromise. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 30 10:43:41 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 23:59:29 2014. The pentagon says it has the plan.Is it possible there's a difference between what the Pentagon says it has and what it really has? Does "the" plan include an exit strategy? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:44:17 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:08:23 2014. LOL! He's been instrumental in keeping bad, harmful and stupid legislation out, I'll grant you that. Even then, the law of averages dictates that every once in a while something rational will get through the lower chamber. We're yet to see that. Why? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Aug 30 10:54:39 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Aug 30 10:05:09 2014. Why are you so obsessed with immigration? |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 30 10:58:08 2014, in response to British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Fri Aug 29 15:25:03 2014. No he's not. He's ignoring his former Shadow Home Secretary, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and instead pandering to left-wing lawyers in not revoking the passports of British Islamist terrorists. This guy's a social-democratic weed, not a leader, and that's why his own MPs are defecting. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:17:05 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:40:21 2014. What the fuck does this have to do with the subject of our ball-less president not showing any leadership? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:18:14 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 10:44:17 2014. I guess that proves what I've suspected all along about you. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:20:20 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 30 10:43:41 2014. Does the president have a strategy for protecting Americans from ISIS fighters with European or American passports from entering the United States and bringing their insane war to this country? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:22:30 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:17:05 2014. Ask CMM? He brought it up. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:23:54 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:22:30 2014. What did I tell you about giving me instructions you pompous ass? I asked you a fucking question - not him. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:26:15 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Aug 30 10:43:41 2014. Funny, they never discussed such a thing as an exit plan when the bush people were lying their way into Iraq. Cheney said their oil will pay for it. So how'd that workout? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:27:26 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 30 10:58:08 2014. Interesting. I thought that they were looking into revoking the passports of British Nationals with allegiances to ISIS or other Islamic Fundamentalist groups. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:29:08 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:26:15 2014. No it's not funny you pompous ass. What's funny is that zerobamas "exit strategy" directly led to this mess. Lets stop then first before they attack this country. Then we can plan an exit strategy. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:29:15 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:18:14 2014. Oh, what? That I have common sense and don't want to see this country turn i to a talibanesce dystopia? I could have told you that if you only asked. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:31:07 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 10:06:41 2014. So let me get this straight, you're mad at Obama for not telling the world on NATIONAL TV his strategy for beating ISIS? You are mad that ISIS wont have an idea what may happen becaue Obama didnt give anything away? Just trying to make sure this is what you are angry about... Because giving away a strategy to your enemy sounds really stupid to me. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:33:08 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:23:54 2014. Nothing that matters as I do not take orders from you. THIW.Ask CMM if you want to know. He brought domestic agenda up. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 30 12:35:24 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:31:07 2014. Meanwhile, we're pounding the shit out of them to the tune of $7.5 million each day and have been for a month and a half. Shows you what happens when people get their "intelligence" from small appliances and then come here to smear it on the walls. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:36:46 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:29:08 2014. That was bush's negotiated treaty to end the stupid pointless occupation of Iraq. Happened well before the election, and subsequent Presidents have to abide by existing treaties upon taking office. Negotiations were attempted, the Iraqis did not wish to change it.I's history, fox may attempt to eliminate it but they can't change it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:37:18 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:31:07 2014. "Because giving away a strategy to your enemy sounds really stupid to me."So is telling the world that you are taking some options off the table or telling the world that you have no strategy yet. Of course the whole world was impressed when zerobama compared ISIS to a JV team when they have roughly 50,000 fighters and captured American equipment after zerobama left the Iraqis hanging and their army cut and ran. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:40:57 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:37:18 2014. Dodging the question and twisting the subject.... You get a second shot |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:42:42 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:36:46 2014. Tell me, do you dance to that? All together now,"Hi-Ho Hi-Ho the terrorists are at out door 6 years later and its all Bush's fault Hi-ho, Hi-ho, Hi-ho. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:43:43 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:40:57 2014. I answered the question - you just don't like the answer. Why does that not surprise me. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:44:22 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:43:43 2014. Nah, sorry, you failed. Not surprising. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:46:40 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by bingbong on Sat Aug 30 12:29:15 2014. No! Its that you are a highly dysfunctional demagogue who is long on vacuous ideology and very short on honesty, knowledge and common sense. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:50:02 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:44:22 2014. On the contrary, it's you that is failing in defending a failed presidency where even liberals are beginning to question the detachment and lack of leadership. Your ship is sinking and you can't bail hard enough to keep it afloat. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:52:19 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:50:02 2014. Lol |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Aug 30 12:57:30 2014, in response to Re: British Prime Minister David Cameron showing True Leadership, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Aug 30 12:52:19 2014. I agree. I thought it was funny (in a sad way) when you liberals voted for an unqualified dolt for president just to be stylish. Well you reap what you sow, do yeah, LOL |
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