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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:30:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by kew gardens teleport on Tue Jul 29 13:41:18 2014. No, they're the client nation, they dance to our tune or find another sugar daddy. We're always hearing (very rudely) how Israel is so alone in the world, when we're essentially paying for their military. If they want to use that military to commit genocide then let them do it on their own dime, but keep the blood off our hands.If you're such a fan of genocide then maybe you should be lobbying for the British parliament to buck up and fund the IDF as America has. Or like all conservatives do you only support wars paid for with Other People's Money? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:34:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 09:42:23 2014. Where in any of the ceasefire proposals from Secretary Kerry did you get the idea that Israel was going to end up giving any land away? It's pretty clear that the goal is to end the bloodshed, which is now heading rapidly toward genocide. I know you have no problem with Israel committing genocide with our defense funding, but I suspect our future servicemen, whose lives you're putting at risk by weakening our stance in the region, would disagree. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 21:38:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 21:15:53 2014. The need to eliminate Hamas's arsenal of rockets and tunnels can still exist while also maintaining that Bibi's premise for war in Gaza could have held more water. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:41:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 16:26:37 2014. I'm trying my best to like you. This doesn't make it easy. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:43:50 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:34:12 2014. A very anti-Semetic post. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:44:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 12:52:34 2014. The US is not in the business of policing the world, nor is it in the business of fixing other countries problems.Israel needs to fix its own affairs Ukraine needs to make a decision Your solution is basically to start wars un-necessarily, you need to use your brain a tad bit more before simplifying global conflicts which you show no understanding of. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:46:09 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 21:38:28 2014. Are you doing ok. Are you safe? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:46:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 16:26:37 2014. I'm trying my best to like you. This doesn't make it easy. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:46:38 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 29 16:53:08 2014. Because he would've started a war and we would've been in more debt and fighting for reasons that have no direct benefit for our nation. Cause in all reality fighting a war in Ukraine or directly getting involved in Gaza doesn't directly benefit the US domestically or economically. Israel buys all of our military supplies, so long as Israel is in a constant state of war, Israel is a wonderful source of money. If there were peace in Israel, who would buy our arms!?? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:49:52 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 21:15:53 2014. Realistically do you think that Hamas was going to take a ceasefire brokered by the government that basically put all their allies in prison in death sentences? They want the border crossings open, and unless that gets in the equation Hamas will have no problem prolonging this war. They're at war with Israel but they want to force Cairo to open the borders. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:27:18 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:49:52 2014. What about the approval of the Arab League? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:31:46 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:46:09 2014. I'm on extended vacation in chu"l. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:32:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:49:52 2014. For once, you might be right about Israeli foreign policy. In many ways, the current conflict is a proxy war between Hamas and the rest of the Arab world from which it finds itself isolated. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:36:07 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:27:18 2014. If it doesn't have the border crossings open, it will be a NO GO. You know this! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:37:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:36:07 2014. Do you understand why that is a non-starter? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:39:09 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:14:28 2014. Hamas IS using civilians as shields. They've admitted it. What planet do you live on? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:40:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:32:59 2014. Hamas taxed the goods that came from Egypt at 40%, they lost over $200 million year from that alone. Unemployment is 40%. By attacking Israel Hamas knows that Israel will react a certain way, in a way its a brilliant plan because it DOESN'T FAIL! They know Israel attacking will cause high casualties and the world would be outraged, and they're hoping it forces Israel and Egypt to come to the table with border crossings being reopened. Thats how the rockets will stop, Hamas is all in on this, they'll let Israel keep raising the body count until the outrage forces Israel to add the border crossings, and international aid to rebuild.Hamas is in a situation where this was the only solution. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:42:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:37:34 2014. I know why, but you have to understand, 40% unemployment, rolling blackouts and no goods coming in, Palestinians are forced to rely on Hamas and believe in Hamas to fix the situation cause Israel and Egypt are suffocating them. So for Israel its damned if you do, damned if you don't. So for Israel's sake, reopen the borders because it weakens Hamas main point, because this time like I told WMATA, Hamas has no problem raising the palestinian body count until border crossings gets added to the table. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:53:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:40:19 2014. There is plenty of international aid flowing into Gaza for humanitarian purposes. Hamas is diverting it from its intended destinations. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 29 22:54:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:10:56 2014. Perhaps because Israel arrested the people responsible for the Palestinian boy's death. Has Hamas done similar? Anyway are you going to try to sell that happy horse-shit as an excuse for shelling Israeli citizens with over 2,000 rockets? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:57:00 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:53:28 2014. Have UN peacekeeping troops or international monitors ever been tied into previous border crossing deals? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:57:22 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 22:57:00 2014. I'm not sure, but if they have, it isn't working. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 23:07:03 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 29 22:57:22 2014. I concur. But Hamas is smart enough to know to not provle Egypt. Israel just makes the deaths sensational. If egypt and hamas went to war, it would be a blip in the news. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:15:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:41:51 2014. Democrats rallied around Bush when shit went down. All we've gotten out of the republicans is shit being flung at Obama. Doing so encouraged other nations to do the same and here we are with OUR credibility destroyed by the war on America from the GOP.I didn't say that to be liked or disliked. Doesn't change what's going on either way. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:16:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:15:12 2014. Name one current Republican you like? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:27:32 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:16:28 2014. As annoying as he's become since Palin took the wind out of his sails, McCain still hasn't fallen off my truck as yet. The only current republicans that I still like have been tossed aside by the GOP. Lessee ... Bob Dole, Colin Powell, Eric Cantor and looks like there aren't anymore left. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:31:36 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:27:32 2014. Figures. All RINOs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:34:22 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:31:36 2014. Yeah ... REAL republicans, not the neoTaliban version. Sorry, but once upon a time, republicans LOVED America. ALL of it (or as much as their sponsors would allow them to anyway). Now all we have is the crazies left who are destroying it. I have no use for the "new" GOP at all. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:42:23 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:34:22 2014. No. Once upon a time democrats actually loved America. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:48:18 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 21:46:09 2014. You don't have a clue, do you? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:48:30 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:42:23 2014. Compared to the republicans, they win in that department until the GOP finally gets its act together. That day just keeps slipping further and further away. :( |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:53:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 22:39:09 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:55:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:14:28 2014. They have TV clips that were taken from Hamas TV that show the head dude person asking people to act as human shields. How do you not know this?And you think that if Israel just stopped everything, then Hamas would do the same? Israel already tried that and it didn't work! Hamas kept right on sending missiles over. How do you not know that? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:55:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 29 21:15:53 2014. Good post. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:11:45 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:44:35 2014. The US is not in the business of policing the worldYes it is. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 30 01:47:07 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:55:02 2014. IAWTP.Will, who breached each cease fire by lobbing missiles? Hint: It's not Israel. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:16:55 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:55:02 2014. Your buddy is an antisemite.The Hamas charter makes their goals plain. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:21:08 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:14:28 2014. Israel can hardly claim Hamas is using civilians as shieldsThey don't have to. Hamas openly admits to doing it. Sad that you are so opposed to peace because of your bigotry. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:23:08 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 00:11:45 2014. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:23:48 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 29 21:44:35 2014. LOL! You don't understand geopolitics.If the USA stops policing the world, then entities like Putin's Russia or Communist China step in. And they're imperialistic. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:24:20 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:34:22 2014. REAL republicans, not the neoTaliban versionLOL! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:24:30 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 29 23:42:23 2014. When was that? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 03:49:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:23:08 2014. So then pay some taxes and we can get BACK in that business. Right now, we can't afford it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 03:50:42 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:23:48 2014. Hey ... look at the bright side. Everybody who matters got a tax cut so we don't have to do that anymore. China's got the economy now, and they're doing that World Police thing now. Happens when you trash your own nation to give money to people who don't need it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 03:51:26 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:24:20 2014. Laugh all you want, it's true. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 03:54:45 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 03:24:30 2014. Here ya go ... hope this helps ...
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 04:53:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 03:54:45 2014. But I guess that concept is too "Christian" for you, eh? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 30 05:22:46 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 29 23:48:18 2014. You can't make up your mind can you? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 30 05:24:37 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 29 23:48:30 2014. The republican party was NEVER a liberal party. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 30 05:27:38 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 29 21:26:28 2014. Another anti-Semetic post. |
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