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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 15:25:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:15 2014.

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Reading comprehension problems again, I see.



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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:43:45 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 09:57:18 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now that I know that you're, well, something of a concrete thinker, I can see that irony will inevitably lost on you. This, by the way, is a common symptom of autism.

I could offer you a lengthy explanation about how, being far more mature and rational than you, I generally confine myself to reasoned arguments, eschewing simple insults not accompanied thereby except to ironically echo your own insults back to you on occasion, and therefore don't consider it a bad thing that I haven't made up my own silly insults to direct at you, but I think it would be a waste of time.

I suspect my explanation would be just as lost on you as every other rational argument I post, garnering only a nonresponsive reply peppered with "lol" and "lmao" and other strings of random nonsense letters which, in all likelihood, will require me to bring the CAPTCHA back out for another go.

I'm hoping you can prove me wrong by offering a reasonable response to this post instead of your usual fare.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 15:52:03 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lol!! What a dick!

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 15:52:48 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No....I referred to your posts as propaganda

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 15:54:26 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And I have no interest in reading your propaganda.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:07:55 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Apr 18 11:05:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I am doing no such thing. I speak for myself and myself only.

Yes, and speaking for yourself and yourself only, you called me an "asshole" for eating a cheeseburger. I eagerly await your explanation for this.

You've managed to piss off a lot of people who tend not to agree on a lot of things here. To me, that suggests that it is YOU who is the problem, not the rest of us.

The fact that I have posted reasoned arguments and the variety of pissed off people responded with playground insults suggests otherwise. No matter how offensive you, Chris, or Olog get I still maintain my composure and, though I may lace them with a few barbs, I still confine myself to logical arguments.

That so many people have abandoned even the pretense of reason and maturity in favour of spewing insults like grade schoolers reveals a lot more about my opposition than the fact that they supposedly disagree on a lot of issues. My recollection is a bit shaky, but when I was in first grade, one would have a hard time of finding two people in my class who agree on who the best superhero is, and yet the entire class would quickly reach unanimous agreement on the mental vacuity of anybody who claimed we should pay attention in math because we'd need those skills later in life. Well, unanimous except me, at any rate. I was an "assholish troll" back then too.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:07:57 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Apr 18 11:11:47 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then explain the childish insults he keeps posting and the dearth of reasoned arguments in his last few posts.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:07:59 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Apr 18 11:12:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nonresponsive. Try again.

The question, by the way, is this: Of the millions of people who are eating bread, are all of them antisemitic, or just the ones who mention that they're doing it? Or just the ones that mention they're doing it while also being aware that it's Passover?

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Apr 18 11:14:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Funny, then, that the only people who have a problem with my "attitude" are the ones who are already ideologically committed to the idea that I'm wrong regardless of the facts.

Why it's almost as if "attitude" is just one big ad hominem to try and squeeze your way out of having been rhetorically pwned.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:06 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Apr 18 12:13:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The city got tired of paying settlements and told the cops to stop harassing me. The cops, themselves tired of having substantiated CCRB complaints in their files, quickly agreed.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 12:15:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then what else is it about?

I posted that I ate a cheeseburger. People whined that this was "antisemitic." I asked them to explain this statement. They were, of course, unable. So they started posting irrelevant nonsense about my "attitude."

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 12:17:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Then why don't you explain? If this is one of those SubChat in-jokes that dates back to 1995, you'll need to give me the details.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 18 12:21:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thus far, no one has offered any indication to the contrary.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:11:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Apr 18 12:23:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well, there is a bunch of nonsense spewed by people who take everything literally, but I don't pay much attention to that. Having to babysit one Terrapin through a simple chain of reasoning is enough.

Then there's the fact that I pierced the right wing information bubble and exposed a few nutters to unorthodox facts, but I don't care about that either.

Other than that, this thread has basically been a bunch of nuts whining that my dinner was antisemitic somehow.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 19 16:13:39 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:08:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh?


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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 16:52:42 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Elkeeper on Fri Apr 18 22:04:23 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
WHY would you even consider writing such an offensive thing like that?

Plenty of people have asserted that it's offensive, but none of them have been able to explain why. The only thing I can figure out is that it has something to do with the innate superiority of Judaism, since no one threw a fit when I made a similar post about Good Friday.

Are you that lonely?

OH GOD YES I'M SO LONELY!

(Let's see how people react to that; if they take it literally, that will explain a lot.)

Perhaps, if you had been invited to a Passover seder...

I've been invited to plenty of Seders, not all of them kosher. In fact, this is the first year I didn't go to one.

...you might understand the customs and the foods.

Courtier's Reply.

I actually do know about the customs and foods, but it's still the Courtier's Reply.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:53:33 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 14:39:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only the racist ones. So the answer is no.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:56:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 14:53:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I saw a joke of dubious tastefulness. But it was still a joke. Of course, I fully expected the wide majority here to take it the wrong way. Nobody disappointed in that regard.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:58:29 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 14:53:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which also makes him the messenger in the context here of his personally being discussed as opposed to what he said.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:00:36 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 19 15:12:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They prove that lies are being said. That's not bias. If the RW was to tell the truth they would not be being held up as suspect on a daily basis.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:05:38 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 19 15:52:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think he'd call tat a case in point.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 17:06:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:53:33 2014.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:07:22 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 15:23:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He is the proud consumer of so many. Goes 125+ miles away from home just to have them.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:08:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 04:54:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You really do not value your time at all.

Excuse me? I think you'll need to explain this one. Seems to me that following up on those incidents was a perfectly valuable use of my time.

You are a living, walking argument for a cut in the state minimum wage.

OK, you're really gonna need to explain this one.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:08:52 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 04:47:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. It's just how I learned how to write.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:08:55 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 04:37:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Mexico is big, more or less self-sufficient, and certainly not occupied by US soldiers. If you want an analogy that's even remotely apt, you'll need to imagine that US soldiers are blockading New York and New Yorkers are not considered US citizens.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:09:05 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:55:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh, I'm all for a Middle Eastern Union. It can be presided over by a unicorn, because that's just as plausible.

Eventually, we'll give up the us/them mentality and stop drawing national borders. Until then, Israel has just as much a right to exist as any other country. It needs to make up its mind on whether it owns the West Bank and Gaza, though. Being the best country in the Middle East (admittedly not saying much), I don't much care whether Israel decides to claim or relinquish those territories, but no country is allowed to have it both ways.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 19 17:10:01 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:00:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Here's the problem; Media Matters & ThinkProgress are not reliable sources. Instead of dispensing right-wing garbage, they spew left-wing garbage. That's the only difference.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 17:11:16 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:58:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Discussing the author is relevant when it comes to assessing his work.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 17:23:32 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 16:56:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You also ignore his call for the virtual destruction of Israel.

One post does not identify his intent

He is the sum of all his posts

His posts in several recent threads point to one conclusion

Antisemitism

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:34:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 17:06:09 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nothing wrong with my statement. Perhaps you didn't read it.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:38:16 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 17:23:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Someone who does not know him would not see anything beyond a somewhat tasteless joke in that post. That is the sole point I'm making. I have no intention of being dragged into discussing anyone's antisemitism, real or imagined. That is a form of racism and all racism is wrong.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:40:30 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 17:11:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I disagree. Someone could land at that post randomly from the ozone and not see anything beyond a somewhat tasteless joke. Such is the nature of a publicly accessible internet site.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 17:41:44 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:40:30 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But the rest of us didn't.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:43:31 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 19 17:10:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Those sites dispense truth. Sad you can't accept that.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 17:45:22 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 19 17:38:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Again you are ignoring his call for the virtual dismantling of the State of Israel

Everything must be taken in context

Nothing stands alone

We NEVER want to know him

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:01 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:17:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's completely different from indifference to Passover and to Judaism in general.

How so? I considered the option of being kosher, rejected it, and ate a cheeseburger without further regard for it.

You had it on your mind that what you were doing was un-Jewish, and that gave you enough of a kick to post it on here.

Un-Jewish? You mean not consistent with Jewish religious law? If that's antisemitic, then I eagerly await your explanation as to how the vast majority of humanity is "antisemitic."

Just FYI— I posted it because it was a joke, which people in the past found funny. That your immediate reaction is: "That is contrary to my beliefs, and THEREFORE PROOF THAT HE HATES EVERYTHING I STAND FOR" says a lot more about you than about me.

That you completely failed at actually posting anything that was genuinely, intrinsically offensive is really beside the point.

It's not offensive now? The thread is 10 pages long why, then?

Everyone can see your motive, and it stinks.

No, the nutters have made assumptions about my motive, and those assumptions stink.

That you are now trying at considerable length to hide behind your miserable failure just shows you to be a snivelling little coward as well.

The fuck you talking about?

So fuck you. </munches hot cross bun>

Hot cross buns are chametz. You're antisemitic.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:03 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 17:23:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You also ignore his call for the virtual destruction of Israel.

"Call for virtual destruction" is a very unusual term for "tolerant of natural demographic shifts over time."

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:06 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 19 13:09:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Sellout" is probably the most charitable word I'd apply to Obama.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:09 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 13:00:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
...and attitude towards Israel

You mean where I said Israel was free to claim the West Bank and Gaza? Or for that matter, the entire Middle East? Maybe the part where I said Israel was the best country in that region? Exactly which "attitude towards Israel" are you referring to?

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:12 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 19 12:54:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What anti-Israel posts? People keep referencing them, but no one has managed to produce a link to one.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:17 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Apr 19 15:00:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're easily fooled.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:22 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 12:40:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nilet also advocates the virtual destruction of the State of Israel.

Gamera advocates painting the Washington Monument with red stripes.

See, I can make ridiculous assertions too! :)

I'd ask for a link to my supposed call for Israel's demise, but you'll either (a) ignore it or (b) post a link to some random post I made and claim it's basically the same thing as demanding Israel's destruction.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:48:02 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 19 12:00:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Train Dude's comment about 'pissing in your dad's soup' was a solid bullseye.

I still don't quite get that one.

In the back of my mind I'm thinking your major in psych or socio and this is 'school project' lol.

Nah I feel more like the straight man on a comedy show.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:48:06 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:33:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Good thing I'm going through tabs from right to left. Otherwise, I'd have written a lengthy explanation for why Chris is racist before noticing that you defended slavery and that it would therefore be a waste of time.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:49:07 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:26:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Since when has Christianity had dietary laws that you could flout?

You're really missing the point with a vengeance, aren't you?

Kashrut is only "law" for those who choose to obey it. I don't. Then a bunch of people started spewing that I'm "antisemitic" for not doing so, apparently on the assumption that everyone on the planet was expected to keep kosher and so acknowledging that some people do while saying that I don't is offensive.

The analogy I offered was that of a different religious group taking offense that someone not a member of that religion might celebrate that religion's holidays in the "wrong" way and is therefore a perfectly valid comparison.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:49:11 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:23:05 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Cute that you ignored my entire post and quoted only the stinger at the end.

My argument was this:

Backpedaling? You mean reiterating. My position has been constant throughout the thread, namely:

(a) I do not observe Passover.

(b) This fact is not offensive to anybody.

(c) This fact is not something I am obliged to hide.

Considering that you regularly call everybody "Nazis," including Jews, I would say you're the real antisemite here.


The stinger you quoted was a reference to this.

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Re: It Is Now Passover

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:49:13 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:20:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What, you want me to make my argument for you?

If you want to claim that the last 72 posts I made were spam, then post the links yourself.

Go on, I dare you...

Dare? What is this, fourth grade? I know a lot of people are acting like it, but come on.

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Re: It Is Now Passover.

Posted by Gamera on Sat Apr 19 17:49:49 2014, in response to Re: It Is Now Passover., posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:46:03 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Your "demographic shift" refers to a non-Jewish majority which will mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state

Call it whatever you want but we know what you mean and want

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Re: List of Jewish Supremacists

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 19 17:50:34 2014, in response to List of Jewish Supremacists, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Apr 19 05:46:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Start with ChicagoMotorman.

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