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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:33:43 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Morsi given the boot by military, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 16:08:25 2013. Shall we chip in for air fare for Olog?Steve Martin already produced a training film for him ... |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Jul 3 18:08:34 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Morsi given the boot by military, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 16:08:25 2013. King Fuad II is still alive. |
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Re: ClearAspect--Read this... Re: Egypt revolts |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Jul 3 18:13:07 2013, in response to Re: ClearAspect--Read this... Re: Egypt revolts, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Jul 3 07:51:30 2013. Some of the people here who said democracy would be good for Egypt were dismayed when the Brotherhood won the elections a year ago in a free election, and now want to see the democratically elected government thrown out because they don't agree with it. That doesn't sound like democracy to me.Similarly, a lot of people who would usually condone Islamist totalitarianism, violence, oppression, and terrorism are all in favor of democracy tonight. It's a funny old world. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Jul 3 19:36:42 2013, in response to Egypt revolts: Morsi given the boot by military, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 3 15:20:10 2013. I'm sorry to tell all these sad reporters and the sad administration, but this has nothing to do with Islam or against the Brotherhood. Egypt is historically a nation that loves to strike for working conditions. Crime and poverty increased, electricity decreased. The leader is ousted and will be ousted until folks think they're paychecks are fair. Which hasn't been the case in generations. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 20:08:59 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Morsi given the boot by military, posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Jul 3 18:08:34 2013. Put him back on the throne but call him a Pharaoh. |
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Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 05:01:53 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Lest anyone think that the majority of Egyptians have suddenly turned secular liberal, think again. They want to attack Israel and are angry at Morsi for not having done so. (BTW, the new Wafd Party is Nasserist, i.e. National Socialist, not "liberal".)Yedioth Ahronoth
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 09:59:12 2013, in response to Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 05:01:53 2013. If you read the article, you'll see they spoke with three people.If there were 4 or 5 people there, then there's your majority. I'll bet you are proud of your post. LOL |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL) |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 6 10:03:53 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL), posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 09:59:12 2013. He's very proud of his posts. His ongoing struggle to get Americans realize that all Muslims are militant Islamists is a sacred cause. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 10:09:10 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL), posted by AlM on Sat Jul 6 10:03:53 2013. His ongoing struggle to get Americans realize that all Muslims are militant Islamists is a sacred cause.That is why he hides in his bunker... I wonder if he can even tell what a(Without the dress wear) Muslim Looks like? |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 10:25:02 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL), posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 10:09:10 2013. Whether he can or not he'll swear up and down that he can.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 10:37:12 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL), posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 09:59:12 2013. Nice bit of bullshit. Care to try again? Or are you waiting for the next bit of talking points out of Media Matters as usual? |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 10:38:00 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough (LOL), posted by AlM on Sat Jul 6 10:03:53 2013. Lying does not help you. Even in jest. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 6 10:38:55 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 10:38:00 2013. shoot yourself, Khristian. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 10:51:40 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 10:37:12 2013. Have the person who read the article to you read that part where they quote those 3 people again. Maybe a 3rd time :)your pal, Fred |
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Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei to take over as unelected PM |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 13:53:38 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Back in 2011, he threatened to attack Israel if he became PM. Guess that's a sign of being "liberal", ain't it. (And didn't the liberal media claim that Morsi was no longer in the Muslim Brotherhood back before the elections?)BBC News
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Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 13:55:17 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Egyptians now believe Morsi was another Mubarak and not extreme enough, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Jul 6 10:38:55 2013. What for, rocKKKparKKKterroristloverNazi? Still upset over the fact that Egypt is still majority terrorist?The military just appointed a man who threatened to attack Israel as the prime minister of a "caretaker" government. This is what is called "liberal" in Egypt. |
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Egypt revolts: Coptic priest, five policemen murdered in Northern Sinai |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 14:05:13 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Yedioth Ahronoth
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Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei to take over as unelected PM |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 17:29:50 2013, in response to Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei to take over as unelected PM, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 13:53:38 2013. Maybe you can go over there and campaign for them to elect Pat Robertson or someone more appropriate for a Muslim nation. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei NOT to take over as unelected PM |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 20:05:45 2013, in response to Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei to take over as unelected PM, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 13:53:38 2013. LinkSorry, Olog your pal, Fred |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei NOT to take over as unelected PM |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 20:28:00 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei NOT to take over as unelected PM, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 20:05:45 2013. I was going to post the Reuters story earlier, but what's the point?Seems as though El-Baradei wasn't well-liked by the Islamic "Nour" party because he's not Islamic enough to suit them. So I guess Olog's right, he's too librul. :-\ |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei maybe, maybe not to take over as unelected PM |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 6 23:16:45 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Mohamed El-Baradei NOT to take over as unelected PM, posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 20:05:45 2013. The Manchester Guardian has a later word than the AP story. Conflicting reports. |
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Egypt revolts: New unelected PM to appointe Muslim Brotherhood, Nour Party to ministerial positions |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 9 18:13:46 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. And it looks like el-Baradei got the position of deputy PM.France 24
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Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 13 18:55:24 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Someone went out on the wrong limb.Reuters
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 13 19:06:03 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 13 18:55:24 2013. Hmmm ... maybe WE should remove some of that "Judeo-Christian" stuff from our own in order to assuage others that we're more pluralistic too. After all, every nation should be "America," right?(always got a kick out of "America" ... we're the United States, a small part of "America" and not sole proprietor) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 14 03:17:13 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 13 19:06:03 2013. What "Judeo-Christian" stuff? Our Constitution is entirely secular and appears to go out of its way to avoid mentioning God. It used "the year" rather than "the year of our lord" and does not mention God in the Preamble, in contrast to many state constitutions and the later Confederate Constitution. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 14 03:30:16 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 14 03:17:13 2013. I'm quite well aware of that. Might you consider the tard I was replying to, and HIS stand on all this? As far as I'm concerned, Egypt has the right to whatever government and constitution their citizens prefer, so long as it isn't arrived at by the same subterfuge that the Brotherhood pulled the last time. My quip there was suggesting that somehow he was expecting them to adopt a 7th Day Adventist constitution.After all, he believes that Obama (who he absolutely despises) was appointed by God ... and after all, when faced with absurd, I double down on it for shits and giggles. That's how I roll here. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 14 04:04:59 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 14 03:30:16 2013. I wasn't really responding to you. Some people might be confused so it was a rhetorical question. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 14 04:11:57 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 14 04:04:59 2013. I come here to REVEL in other people being confused, and proud to do MY part! And with that "rhetorical question" shit, now you've gone and done it to them youself! :)So for the benefit of the baffled ... |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 14 05:51:52 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 14 03:17:13 2013. What "Judeo-Christian" stuff? Our Constitution is entirely secular and appears to go out of its way to avoid mentioning God. It used "the year" rather than "the year of our lord" and does not mention God in the Preamble, in contrast to many state constitutions and the later Confederate Constitution.I think for "Judeo-Christian", read "Mainline Protestant" (we don't need to go into Reform Jews arguably being Protestants too). One's neighbor being of a different Protestant denomination is pretty much a prerequisite for a secular constitution of the U.S. sort. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Jul 14 06:19:48 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 14 04:11:57 2013. Now, I'm baffled. 8-)Peace, Andee |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 14 06:21:51 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: military upholds Sharia law in new constitutional decree, posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Jul 14 06:19:48 2013. |
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Egypt revolts: General Sisi and his Islamist agenda |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 29 17:43:41 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Foreign Affairs Magazine
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Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 17 23:33:57 2013, in response to Egypt revolts, posted by AlM on Mon Jul 1 11:15:34 2013. Yes, Tamarod.INN
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Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 18 10:15:28 2013, in response to Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Aug 17 23:33:57 2013. The Arab side always seems to ignore is that abrogating the treaty leaves Israel free to attack Egypt at will. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Aug 18 10:37:59 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 18 10:15:28 2013. Israel never makes the first move. |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 18 12:58:51 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Aug 18 10:37:59 2013. My point is that the treaty protects Egypt from a superior fighting force. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 13:04:21 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Aug 18 10:37:59 2013. Yup. Israel is the black chess player. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 18 18:36:30 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 18 13:04:21 2013. And its neighbors think that their first two moves being f3 and g4 is a good strategy. |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 18 19:27:07 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Aug 18 18:36:30 2013. Worse ... they got Star Trek in Arabic over there. They're waiting to answer the challenge, "queen to queen's level 3." :) |
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Re: Egypt revolts |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 21:41:15 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 1 14:55:13 2013. Had we catered toward a more democratic like country perhaps we would not have an Anti American Iran but a strong ally in the middle east.There was a democratic, secular government in Iran. Eisenhower's CIA overthrew it and replaced it with the Shah. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 18 21:59:44 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 21:41:15 2013. Correct! Worst part was the reason ... to appease Senator Joe McCarthy. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 18 22:15:21 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 21:41:15 2013. Lie. That government was socialist. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 22:16:40 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 18 21:59:44 2013. to appease Senator Joe McCarthy.It was more to appease Winston Churchill. After years of trying to re-negotiate the 1913 terms of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company's (AIOC) concession, Mossadegh nationalized the company. The AIOC eventually became British Petroleum. Incidentially, Iran's initial request was for a 50-50 split - similar to what Saudi Arabia won from the US. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 22:30:29 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 18 22:15:21 2013. That government was socialist.That does not contradict democratic and secular. The socialist policies that Mossadegh proposed were: unemployment insurance; sick pay; workman's compensation and abolishing serfdom. Even under full nationalization of AIOC, 25% of the profits were reserved to compensate AIOC. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 18 22:57:17 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 22:16:40 2013. Eisenhower and Churchill had supposedly come to a meeting of the minds on it with a lower-key approach. It was supposedly McCarthy who threatened to haul everybody in front of his Darrel Issa fan club so I was told back in the 60's by a Nixon appointee who was there at the time. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 00:39:07 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 18 22:57:17 2013. Truman opposed Operation Ajax. Eisenhower changed course. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 19 07:57:06 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 00:39:07 2013. Yep ... that Truman fella was a commie. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 16:21:47 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Aug 18 22:30:29 2013. You just "legitimized" Hitler's government, because he was elected, democratic and secular.Aside from Mosaddegh nationalizing the oil industry, he had a too-close relationship with Iran's communist party (Tudeh) . . . and he was not elected by the people, but by the parliament. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 19 17:13:39 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 19 16:21:47 2013. Hitler was neither democratic, nor elected and it's arguable whether he was secular (although I'll grant that he was, generally).Most countries have their prime ministers elected by parliament. Do you consider David Cameron to be a socialist, undemocratic tyrant? |
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Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Aug 19 18:58:59 2013, in response to Re: Egypt revolts: Tamarod looks to revoke peace treaty with Israel, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Aug 18 10:37:59 2013. Irrelevant though, Arab conspiracy always ponder the stupid mood. Like the President of the PA who is a Doctor in Holocaust denial studies going on about the Jews trying to get even for the Holocaust and such.At any rate, revoking the treaty will sure get them their raises that they were striking for, which started their whole mess. |
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