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German troops making peace with war

By Emma Wallis
27.10.2012

It has been 22 years since the German military restarted its participation in missions abroad. As the military prepares to play a role in the Sahel region of northern Mali, DW looks at the wider role of the Bundeswehr.

Since its foundation in 1955, the Bundeswehr has always been anxious to stress its purely defensive role. In the aftermath of World War II, Germany was considered too dangerous to be allowed military might.

But as the icy grip of the Cold War took hold across Europe and the world, it was decided that the Bundeswehr should be set up to provide a bulwark for NATO in Europe against the threat of the Soviet Union amassing military might just across the border in the former East Germany.

The Bundeswehr was envisaged as "citizen defenders of a democratic state," fully subordinate to the political leadership of the country — and, of course, to the international bodies of NATO, the European Union and the United Nations, to which first West Germany and now united Germany belongs.

With reunification in 1990 and the dissolution of the old Eastern bloc, the Bundeswehr gradually started to participate in missions abroad. But in policy terms, the missions have always been sold as humanitarian and defensive.

No war; we're Germans

The German military's first foreign deployment saw troops sent to the former Yugoslavia, but only after considerable debate in parliament. As military expert Eric Chauvistré wrote, "The German government appears to have blacklisted the word 'war.'"

As the missions have increased, the idea that Germany's job is to "take care of things … improve living conditions … and ensure compliance with human rights" is one politicians like to stick to, said Chauvistré, author of the 2009 book "Wir Gutkrieger: Warum die Bundeswehr im Ausland scheitern wird" ("We the Good Warriors: Why the Bundeswehr will fail abroad") published by Campus.

Chauvistré told DW that the way missions are sold to the German public is different from the reality most German soldiers meet on the ground. He said it's difficult for soldiers to make the democratic difference they've been trained for, and they become disillusioned when they realize that keeping a mission low-risk means there is very little human contact with the people they are supposedly there to "protect."

German politicians — and initially foreign organizations — wanted to keep the Bundeswehr's role to a non-combat status, and Germans were keen that their missions would be as low-risk as possible. Many of its missions are in a supportive or logistical role rather than on the front line, which has kept casualties to a comparatively low 100 deaths since 1994.

But Chauvistré said the mandates under which the German army deploys and the missions in which they participate are often at odds. For example, when they are shot at, as in Afghanistan, they are allowed to fight back. Germany is the third largest foreign presence in Afghanistan, after the United States and Great Britain, but most of their soldiers are not able to leave their bases.

Politicians mull military deployment to Mali

On Tuesday (23.10.2012), German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle and UN Special Envoy for the Sahel, Romano Prodi, met to talk over what kind of role Germany could feasibly play in Mali and in particular in the northern Sahel region. Since a military coup earlier this year, the majority Islam north has split from the Christian-dominated south.

Chauvistré said if other European nations send forces to Mali, Germany might too, but always under the banner of providing training and support. The justification of eradicating terrorism and protecting security is similar to the way the ISAF Afghan mission was described in Germany. But Chauvistré said if troops are sent, it would be a far smaller commitment than in Afghanistan, more along the lines of other African missions.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, speaking at a military conference on Monday (22.10.2012), said Germany would be prepared to participate in a European mission to train security forces in Mali in order to combat this potential threat. The Bundeswehr has a long tradition of training forces, having been engaged in training troops for the New Iraqi army in 2003 and 2004 in both United Arab Emirates and on German soil.

America drops bombs; Bundeswehr rebuilds

Germany currently has about 6,500 military personnel deployed on missions abroad. There is still little political appetite for high-risk combat missions, as seen when Germany decided to pull out of the second conflict in Iraq and keep its role in Afghanistan smaller than that of other NATO members.

The idea of actual combat missions is still anathema in many German policy making and public circles. Chauvistré said the German public is happiest when the Bundeswehr acts as "a kind of respected civil service, who turn up to their jobs in barracks every day, and go home in the evening."

The ethos of the German military is "America drops bombs, and the Bundeswehr rebuilds the country," Chauvistré added. "We might support the ISAF operations but we're doing it in the right way. We're stationed in Afghanistan, but we're not like the others. The Bundeswehr that most people have in their heads when they're questioned [about their attitudes to the German military] has increasingly little to do with the real Bundeswehr. The public believed, until the '90s that 'the best place for soldiers was in their barracks.' That the Bundeswehr is a charity organization that distributes wool blankets and canned food."

While Germans say they support "peace missions," their support drops when asked about intervention in Afghanistan, with 25 percent saying they are in favor and 75 percent opposed.

The transformation of the Bundeswehr

As the Bundeswehr states on its website, a commitment to peace means deploying a "wide range of foreign, security, defense, and development policy instruments in order to identify, prevent, and resolve conflicts at an early stage."

"We Germans do not fight wars," Chauvistré describes as the main perception in Germany. "And even if we do, they are someone else's wars, or at least wars for a very good cause. Almost no one dares to look beyond strange-sounding neologisms such as 'robust mission' or 'mission for peace.'"

While the Bundeswehr — and Germany — feels comfortable in this role, Chauvistré said changes being made in the military could affect the types of missions it handles in the future.

"The transformation of the Bundeswehr is in full swing," he said. "Weapons are being procured that will make it easier for future political leaders to send troops on missions of war and political structures are being created that will make it more difficult for parliament and the public to stop such deployments."

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It is our inflexible purpose to destroy German militarism and Nazism and to ensure that Germany will never again be able to disturb the peace of the world. We are determined to disarm and disband all German armed forces; break up for all time the German General Staff that has repeatedly contrived the resurgence of German militarism, remove or destroy all German military equipment; eliminate or control all German industry the that could be used for military production; bring all war criminals to just and swift punishment and exact reparation in kind for the destruction wrought by the Germans; wipe out the Nazi Party, Nazi laws, organizations and institutions, remove all Nazi and militarist influences from public office and from the cultural and economic life of the German people; and take in harmony such other measures in Germany as may be necessary to the future peace and safety of the world. It is not our purpose to destroy the people of Germany, but only when Nazism and militarism have been extirpated will there be hope for a decent life for Germans, and a place for them in the comity of nations.

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(EUEUEUEUEU) Berlin Ehrenbürger sees Obama as "visionary"

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“America may not see it, but Obama’s a visionary”

Published: 5 Nov 12 11:56 CET

With most Germans hoping US President Barack Obama will be re-elected, the country is to see what happens on Tuesday. In a special-edition Zeitgeist, The Local asked what Berliners thought.

David, 33, Berlin

“I really think that Obama has the best policies, which also correspond to my own values. I think the vote would affect Germany only if he wasn’t elected.”

Anja, 36, Berlin

“I am hoping that Obama will win. For me, it’s about his character. I see him more as a visionary, even though the Americans don’t understand this or try to stand in his way. But I think he’s more visionary for the future.”

Marian, 65 and Peter, 65, from Kassel

Marian: “Obama is more humane and more social. I have my fingers crossed for him.”
Peter: “If I were American, I would rather vote for Obama rather than for this millionaire.* I don’t know if millionaires make the greatest politicians, but there are a lot of them.”

Gabriel, 28, Frankfurt

“I would vote for Obama. I watched the presidential debates and didn’t agree with Romney’s policies on taxation, the environment and so on. But then again, TV debates are so superficial, they really are just a show. It’s also amazing how much attention they (the elections) have had in Germany. It’s an even bigger deal than our own elections.”

Thomas, 28, Frankfurt

“Obama, because he’s more liberal than Mitt Romney, and because Mitt Romney still lives in the 1950s.** It depends on who gets named as Secretary of State as to whether the outcome would affect Germany. If Romney picked some radical conservative then it would be really bad.”

The love affair between Germany and Obama has been a very public one since 2008, when 200,000 people turned up to see him talk in Berlin during the election campaign.

Obama speaks to the basic German attitude of social responsibility within a capitalist market — and crucially in the 2008 election, he was not George W. Bush, who was wildly unpopular in Germany by the end of his second presidency.

A recent survey showed 85 percent of Germans would vote for Obama if they had the option, while just four percent told pollsters YouGov they supported Republican challenger Mitt Romney. Twice this share thought he had a good chance of beating Obama though.

Of the 1,051 people asked, 60 percent felt that Obama’s policies were generally positive — perhaps thanks to the new healthcare bill, which made the American medical system more accessible.

His decision to pour money into the country’s auto industry in the wake of the economic crash is something many Germans can support in principle, while his less confrontational attitude to foreign policy is also more in tune with German thinking.

The Local hit the streets in Berlin to get a taste of what Germans had to say about Tuesday's election, and whether they thought it would affect them.

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Take advantage of US indifference

Whoever takes the White House for the next four years, Europe must face the facts: it is no longer considered a strategic priority by the United States. Europe must therefore reinforce its common defense structures and spearhead decisive diplomatic initiatives towards Russia and the Mediterranean countries, suggests a French commentator.

Bernard Guetta
6 November 2012

No matter whether Mitt Romney or Barack Obama is elected as the next president of the United States on November 6, he will think Pacific rather than Atlantic; Asia rather than Europe. The most convincing sign of this change is that during their foreign policy debate neither of the candidates mentioned Europe or NATO, substantial allies on which all US diplomacy relied for some seven decades.

Because Europe is no longer a strategic problem for the US since the Soviet Union crumbled and because it has no new markets to conquer there, the US has turned all of its attention towards an emerging Asia where it must ensure its industrial position and curb the competing power, China, before it imposes its dominance on its neighbors and rivals in this New World.

Battle of giants

Now that the USSR is confined to the dustbin of history, a battle of giants is beginning between the US and China. It will dominate this century and will modify geopolitics; the West will no longer straddle the Atlantic but will be on the one hand the United States and Asia and on the other Europe and its Eastern and Southern neighbors — two major zones in search of an internal balance that will take a long time to achieve.

This does not mean that all solidarity will disappear overnight between the two shores of the Atlantic. A privileged tie will continue but it will constantly be weakened because the US and the European Union will have other priorities than to maintain it.

To counter Asia, the former will have to build an Americas' Front unifying, from Alaska to Argentina, into a single market zone. This would be coupled with a reinforcement of alliances with Japan, Southeast Asia and, if possible, India. The rise in Asian military spending and the redeployment of US troops towards the Pacific as well as the Sino-Japanese stalemate over a few, tiny uninhabited, but disputed islands proves that the maneuvers have begun.

The new century began in the Pacific and is also starting, in parallel, in the basin around that large communal lake — the Mediterranean.

Foundations of a common destiny

Whether it wants it or not, whether it accepts to see it or not, the European Union cannot sustainably count on the military protection of the United States. Not only will it have to build a common defense system, but it is up to Europe to ensure the stability of its borders by weaving solid ties with Russia, Africa and the Middle East, three major neighbors in which changes cannot leave Europe indifferent and which are, in any case, closer to it than America.

Russia is regressing under the rule of Vladimir Putin who would like to hitch his country to China so as to consolidate his dictatorship far from European democracy, but this project has no future. Russia needs Europe to prevent Chinese labor and merchants from continuing their rampant annexation of Siberia. The new Russian, urban middle class is looking towards Europe and certainly not towards Asia. The Union must offer a democratic option to Russia by offering it binding ties to Europe so it can call on these when its current impasse is revealed. The same holds true for Africa and in the Middle East.

If Europe wants to stabilize the other shore of the Mediterranean, if it wants to accompany the emerging growth in Africa and the first steps of Arab democracy, if it wants to open markets, slow illegal immigration and finally turn the page of jihad it must invest in Northern Africa, in the Arabian Mashriq countries and in sub-Saharan Africa so that they are bound as long-term economic partners. As with Russia, the foundations of a common destiny must be established, which is much more obvious than it would be with China whose own stability is no longer guaranteed. That is where the future of Europe will be determined, just as that of the US will be determined in Asia.

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“Obama 2.0” urged not to disappoint

7 November 2012

Reflecting a public opinion largely favourable to Barack Obama, the European press heaves a sigh of relief after his re-election. But the illusions of 2008 about his commitment to Europe have vanished.

"Europe heaves a sigh of relief," writes Expresso columnist Daniel Oliveira in his blog on the website of the Lisbon weekly:

Obama's victory is not the answer to all of our problems. These need to be addressed in Europe and especially in Germany. But the victory of yet another proponent of financial savagery would have made a solution to this crisis even more unlikely. Europe, which Romney sees as a lair of socialists, has no reason to drink champagne. But it can at least breathe a sigh of relief.

In Berlin, Der Tagesspiegel recalls that four years ago Obama was celebrated on the Old Continent “as a messiah in the White House, as the most European, the most Western of the candidates, as ‘one of us’.” But, writes the daily, “four years and a string of broken promises later, it is clear that that was a misunderstanding.” Listing the disappointments on the environment and world peace, the paper concludes:

No, four years after Obamania, he appears to be the lesser evil. It’s up to him to rekindle the flame. Europe would do well to understand, and the sooner the better, that during his second term, Obama will focus less on how the world is faring and more on America’s national interest.

And indeed, according to To Vima, “the Germans are not entirely pleased with Obama’s reelection.” The Athens daily assures its readers that:

Obama disturbs them. He tried to put brakes on the Greek disaster, but he does not believe that austerity can save countries and economies. [...] Obama and Merkel, the United States and Europe under Germany, are entering a new phase in their relationship. [...] Obama has four years to decide whether the United States will prevent Europe from becoming a German colony, which Germany in a way has been trying to do for three years through the debt crisis. [...] With his hands now free, Obama is probably not going to sit and watch Germany ‘rake them all in.’ What will happen now will determine the most violent geopolitical dimension of the German project, which extends far beyond the borders of Europe itself.

On the Gazeta Wyborcza website, Zbigniew Lewicki explains that “Barack Obama is not the best choice for the world. He’s done nothing to disqualify him, but he hasn’t met the expectations that he aroused four years ago”. According to the professor of American Studies at Kardynał Stanisław Wyszyński University:

Europe has actually disappeared from Obama’s radar […] I don’t know why we are so cheerful. The president who has just been elected has been turning its back on Europe over the last few years […] I understand that bigger countries like France, Germany and Italy are happy that American president doesn’t interfere in their politics. But smaller countries like Poland, which depend on the EU and NATO for their security, have no reason to celebrate […] Russia will likely be delighted with Obama’s victory, because he understands its needs and aspirations.

In the aftermath of the U.S. presidential election, political scientist Vicente Palacio notes in the pages of El País that “Europeans are waking up slightly relieved by the victory of Obama.” The reason is that:

(I)t offers a second chance to Europeans. During his first term, Obama encountered a Europe in decline, without sufficient strength of spirit to bring itself up to the same level, without leaders. Today it may be a bit easier for some European leaders, such as Hollande or Rajoy, to try to make the most of the re-elected president’s commitment to growth [...] The European federalists can forget for a moment the blindness, the foot-dragging and their mutual disloyalty, and dream that in Obama 2.0 they will find an ally to overcome the weakness of the EU. [...] On the morning after, one might dream that Obama will set Europe at the center of his attention and turn into a champion of our political, fiscal and banking union. In the last phase of the campaign, growing employment figures in the United States mitigated the visible consequences of European austerity. But the fundamental error is still there, and it remains to be seen how Obama will react if this policy endangers the United States. In that case, the days of the austerity imposed by Merkel would be numbered.

“The next U.S. president will have to deal with four issues that cannot be avoided, at least not if he truly wishes, as has been promised at length and in all corners of the country, to jump-start domestic growth”, writes Il Sole 24 Ore’s US correspondent Mario Platero. One of those concerns Europe:

There’s no point in wallowing in the rhetoric we’ve listened to during the “socialist Europe” election campaign, the “Europe is slowing down our growth” and so forth. From the G20 in Los Cabos forward, Europe has headed down the path to renewal that America shares and, if anything, would like to see move along more quickly. Today there’s no way we can consider an “Atlantic cool-down.” The economic and business network makes the Atlantic the only great economic basin.

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EUEUEUEUEU's austerity causing suicides—like in Spain, over evictions

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Woman plunges to death as bailiffs arrive to evict her

10/11/2012 — 09:22:27

A woman jumped to her death as bailiffs approached to evict her from her fourth-floor Spanish apartment for failing to pay the mortgage.

It was the second apparent suicide linked to evictions and further highlights the dire conditions many Spaniards find themselves in as the country’s economy sinks.

The government recently created a task force to study how to reduce evictions because of the devastating personal impact of repossessions due to tough mortgage rules and growing unease among the public on the subject.

The unnamed 53-year-old woman threw herself from her balcony in a suburb of Bilbao, the regional Interior Ministry said. She worked at a local bus depot, was married to a former town councillor and had a 21-year-old daughter.

Local judge Juan Carlos Mediavilla said at the scene that it was “necessary to amend current mortgage legislation” to prevent a recurrence of such events. Employment and social security minister Fatima Banez said last night that the government deeply regretted the woman’s death.

Homeowners in Spain face greater risks than mortgage-holders in many countries. If they are unable to make the agreed mortgage payments — through unemployment or low income — they can get evicted but also remain liable to repay whatever value is left on the mortgage after the repossession.

Since the 2008 property crash, more than 350,000 people have been caught in this trap. There are another 500 evictions a day, according to government figures.

On October 25 Jose Miguel Domingo, 53, was found dead in the courtyard of his building in Granada moments after bailiffs appeared to evict him. A day later another 53-year-old man who had been unemployed for four years jumped out of his apartment window in the eastern town of Burjassot as eviction loomed. He survived the fall.

The dramatic impact that repossessions can have on individuals spurred prime minister Mariano Rajoy’s government to create the task force and the latest death will add pressure on the group to find solutions.

“We must find the most effective means to alleviate the situation experienced by people who are losing their homes,” deputy prime minister Soraya Saenz de Santamaria said earlier this month.

On Thursday the European Court of Justice’s advocate general, Juliane Kokott, handed down a non-binding legal opinion that criticized Spanish legal rules regarding evictions, saying they were incompatible with European norms, according to Spanish media reports.

The ruling came in response to a query from a Spanish court on a 2011 lawsuit over an eviction due to an unpaid mortgage. Ms. Kokott said the Spanish system did not sufficiently protect consumers against possible abusive clauses in mortgage contracts.

An improvement in the property market is not expected any time soon. The government predicts Spain’s economy, which is now in recession, will not grow until 2014. Unemployment is at a staggering rate of 25%.

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(EUEUEUEUEU) Germany gets seat on UN "Human Rights" Council (so-called)

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Germany gets on UN Human Rights Council

Published: 13 Nov 12 08:28 CET

The United States and Germany won a closely contested race Monday among western nations for UN Human Rights Council seats, while the likes of Venezuela and Pakistan secured places without a competitive vote.

Rights groups condemned the "pre-cooked" arrangements by most continental groups at the 193-member UN General Assembly which gave council seats to countries whose records have been widely questioned.

The United States, Germany and Ireland won the only open election among western nations.

All the other regional groups nominated "clean slate" groups of countries with no competitive voting.

Ivory Coast, Ethiopia, Gabon, Kenya and Sierra Leone will join for Africa; Japan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, South Korea and United Arab Emirates for Asia; Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela for Latin America and the Caribbean; and Estonia and Montenegro for Eastern Europe.

Venezuela got 154 votes, more than the United States, 131, or Germany, 127.

"To call the vote in the General Assembly an 'election' gives this process way too much credit," said Peggy Hicks, a Human Rights Watch specialist. "Until there is real competition for seats in the Human Rights Council, its membership standards will remain more rhetoric than reality."

Peter Wittig, Germany's UN ambassador, said the open competition by the western nations should be "an example for other regional groups."

Some observers had said the United States risked not getting a place as it had entered the contest so late.

"We thank the countries that voted for us in what was a highly competitive race among several qualified western candidates that are all strong champions of human rights," said US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a statement.

"We pledge to continue to work closely with the international community to address urgent and serious human rights concerns worldwide and to strengthen the council," Clinton added.

"While much hard work remains to be done, especially ending the council's disproportionate and biased focus on Israel, we look forward to cooperating with other council members to continue to address human rights concerns and to ensure that the Council fully realizes its promise."

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(EUEUEUEUEU) Italian s-ccer fans chanting "Free Palestine", antisemitic slogans against Tottenham

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London Fans Spark Outrage Over 'Free Palestine' Chants

Soccer match marred by anti-Semitic chantings, with fans shouting “Juden Tottenham,” and unrolling huge banner reading “Free Palestine”.

By Rachel Hirshfeld
First Publish: 11/25/2012, 9:30 AM

Ronald S. Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, has expressed “shock and dismay” at the latest display of anti-Semitism among supporters of the Italian club S.S. Lazio, which occurred during a Europa League match between Lazio and the English club Tottenham Hotspur in Rome on Thursday evening.

The match was marred by anti-Semitic chanting, with Lazio fans shouting “Juden Tottenham, Juden Tottenham” and unrolling a huge banner reading “Free Palestine”.

While Tottenham has a strong following from the Jewish community in North London, it, too, has been tainted by anti-Semitic allegations, with fans using the term “Yid Army” during their own sports chants.

Prior to Thursday night’s match, about 50 assailants — armed with knives, knuckledusters and wrenches — attacked Tottenham fans having drinks at the city’s pub.

Ten people were injured, one of whom suffered injuries to an artery and remains in serious condition.

It remains unclear whether the attackers were fans of Lazio or another Rome football club.

Lauder called on the European football governing body UEFA to take strong measures against Lazio if it fails to rein in its anti-Semitic supporters.

“It seems that all those expensive campaigns against racism that were run in recent years by UEFA, FIFA and others have not made a lasting impression, at least not on serial offenders such as certain supporters of Lazio,” said Lauder.

“The only way to overcome this ugly phenomenon is to threaten tough consequences for clubs who don’t take their obligation seriously to keep hatemongers and racist thugs out of stadiums,” Lauder added. “This problem of racist Lazio supporters is not new, and it ought to be taken more seriously by all people concerned. Imposing fines on the clubs whose fans misbehave in such a way is obviously completely ineffective.”

Italian football federation chief Giancarlo Abete wrote a letter saying: "Once again, unfortunately, football has been used as a vehicle by mindless thugs to express their racist and anti-Semitic views,” AFP reported.

"This was unquestionably the motive behind this attack, which has damaged the image of our football and does not reflect the real tradition of warmth and hospitality of the city of Rome," the letter added.

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(EUEUEUEUEU) Obama signs bill shielding US airlines from EUEUEUEU carbon tax

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Obama shields US airlines from EU’s carbon scheme

EurActiv.com with Reuters
28 November 2012

President Barack Obama signed a bill yesterday (27 November) shielding US airlines from paying for each tonne of carbon their planes emit flying into and out of Europe, despite a recent move by Europe to suspend its proposed measure for one year.

The bill was the first piece of legislation debated on the House floor after the US Congress returned from recess on 13 November, and had been cleared by the Senate in September in a rare unanimous vote.

It gives the American transportation secretary the power to shield US airlines from Europe’s Emissions Trading System (ETS).

Lawyers have said the bill is an unusual piece legislation because it would prevent US companies from complying with the laws of another country.

“It never made a bit of sense for European governments to tax our citizens for flying over our own airspace — and with the passage of this law we’ve got the tools we need to prevent it from happening and protect American jobs,” said Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill, a co-author of the bill.

The House passed the bill despite the announcement on Monday that the European Union would “stop the clock” on enforcing its law for one year.

McCaskill and co-sponsor Republican Senator John Thune said in a statement that their bill had pressured the EU into delaying the enforcement of their cap-and-trade scheme for aviation.

The EU had also been under pressure from China, one of the world’s fastest growing markets for aircraft, which had threatened to cancel orders of European Airbus aircraft if the EU did not back down from applying its ETS on all airlines.

One EU official took to the social networking site Twitter to suggest that United States was not making good on suggestions for “greener” policies.

Obama made reference to climate change as one of a trio of issues facing the country in his victory speech after being re-elected on 6 November.

“So far the reelected President Obama climate policies look EXACTLY as in first term. Wonder when we’ll see the announced change?” Connie Hedegaard, EU climate action commissioner, said in a tweet.

Positions:

Jo Leinen, member of the Environment Committee in the European Parliament said:

“It is a bad signal for climate protection that President Obama signed the Anti ETS-bill as one of his first decisions after his re-election. Forbidding US companies to respect EU law is at the same time an arrogant attitude that will boomerang on consensus in other transatlantic negotiations.”

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Van Rompuy opposes direct election of the EU’s top leaders

Georgi Gotev
30 November 2012

Directly electing the European Commission President at the 2014 EU elections would “organize the disappointment in advance”, said European Council President Herman Van Rompuy. Directly electing his own successor would be “even more absurd”, he added in comments that are likely to irritate proponents of increased democracy in the European institutions.

Van Rompuy’s statement, made at a public conference in Brussels on Wednesday (28 November), runs in direct opposition with the EU’s major political families, who in their majority, would like to “give faces” to the next European elections in May 2014.

But Van Rompuy warned that the “huge legitimacy” stemming from the direct election of “a European top candidate” at the next European elections could be counterproductive.

The European Council President spoke at a conference on the future of the European Union organized by the Belgian Foreign Ministry, the Bertelsmann Foundation and the King Baudouin Foundation.

The forum was aimed at discussing the Final Report of the Future of Europe Group in a wider circle, which included EU affairs pundits, MEPs and civil society representatives.

The self-appointed Future of Europe Group consists of the foreign ministers of Austria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal and Spain.

According to the proposal by the 11 ministers, one key step to increasing the democratic legitimacy is that each political party nominates a top candidate for the next European Parliament elections, who would also stand for the post of Commission President. The idea is shared by the three largest political families (see background).

“A huge legitimacy”

But Van Rompuy said he had already warned the ministers at a meeting held on the sidelines of the last General Assembly of the United Nations in September.

“I said it in New York: you give this man or this woman a huge legitimacy. But if you keep the same competence for the top job, you organize the disappointment in advance,” Van Rompuy told the audience, where two of the ministers were sitting — Germany’s Guido Westerwelle and Belgium’s Didier Reynders.

Van Rompuy said the whole effort was doomed to fail, unless the Commission itself would be given more powers vis-à-vis the member states.

“If this is not going hand in hand with large powers for the Commission, then forget it,” he said.

Van Rompuy added that he had also heard that “some mention” the direct election of the President of the European Council, his own job.

“This is even more absurd, because then you create a figure which is a real rival of the President of the European Commission, also directly elected. He has to create compromises among the leaders. And you give him a legitimacy even higher than of the participants in the Council. So how can he find at the end of the day compromise or consensus?” Van Rompuy said.

“Gadget institutional changes”

Van Rompuy livened up the atmosphere by alluding to his own job, created by the Lisbon Treaty.

“We have in the Union a tendency of solving problems by creating new institutions, new jobs. It was only once a success: by creating the permanent President of the European Council. I don’t know other good examples,” he said amid laughs.

In November 2009, Van Rompuy was elected by heads of state and government as Council President largely because of his capacity to be a discrete and consensual EU top operator.

The Council President also appeared to pour cold water over appeals for another EU treaty change.

“We have to be careful when we speak about treaty changes,” he said, adding that a lot could be achieved within the current legal framework. “Even on own resources we can do a lot within the European treaties,” he stated.

“After 2014 we have to say precisely what we want to change in the treaties, and not embark on what I call, when I’m in the wrong mood, gadget institutional changes,” Van Rompuy said.

“Cultural prejudice”

Van Rompuy said he was “concerned” about the cultural prejudice in the Union and the psychological differences between North and South. But he added that he had discovered at the last summit on 22-23 November that there was neither a homogeneous group of the net contributors, nor of the net recipients.

“Half of the net contributors, not only in numbers, but in importance, are not asking for rebates. And almost all of the net recipients were not complaining about the level of the cuts I proposed,” Van Rompuy said.

Even in the so-called North there was “a huge cultural difference” among the countries, Van Rompuy argued. On whether or not the Union should help Greece, there is a huge debate in the Netherlands, but only a minor one in Belgium, Van Rompuy said. Similarly, he said that in France there was practically no debate on Greece, while in Germany Greece was in the heart of the political debate.

“So it’s much more complicated that North and South,” he said.

Squaring the circle of the EU budget

Van Rompuy basically expressed optimism that it would be possible to reach agreement, rather sooner than later, on the EU budget for the period 2014-2020. He compared the magnitude of the task with the adoption of national budgets. In his country Belgium, the budget for 2013 was recently adopted after 18 hours of heated debate.

“With Jean-Luc and Didier not in the same government, but in the same country, we did budgets with five partners, with six partners," said Van Rompuy, referring to former Prime Minister Jean-Luc Dehaene and Didier Reynders, former Deputy Prime Minister and former Minister of Finance, currently foreign minister, both of whom were present at the debate.

"But imagine you are in a country with 27 parties around the table, and you have to make a budget in a few hours. It is more than a caricature to say that you can realize that in one go,” Van Rompuy said.

He continued by saying that each of those countries was representing a coalition government. “So I don’t know how many parties are around the table,” he said.

In addition, the EU budget has to receive the approval of the European Parliament, and is a budget for seven years — no country has such a budget.

“If we succeed to have an agreement in two stages, I will consider it a major success. I don’t exclude it. As the French President said, ‘C’est jouable’; it’s doable,” Van Rompuy said.

27 egoists?

Van Rompuy strongly objected to the stereotype that the heads and government of EU countries behave like “traders at a Turkish market”, as one politician recently described them.

“There are no 27 egoists around the table. Of course if you are a Prime Minister or a President, you have to defend your national interests; that’s what you are elected for. But at the end, you have to take into account the European interest, because in the end, it’s also your interest. And we are not saying it enough,” Van Rompuy said.

He also said he found the heads of state and government very different on the first day of the summit, when the bilateral “confessionals” were held, and on the next day.

“Those who are around the table Friday at lunchtime, most of them were fully aware of the European interest also. There will always be a mixture of these two kinds of approaches,” Van Rompuy said.

Background

For the 2014 elections, the three big European political families have decided to motivate their voters by agreeing in advance on a personality who would become the next Commission President, if that political family wins the election.

No decisions have been officially made, but it is widely assumed that the candidate for the Party of European Socialists (PES) will be Martin Schulz, now President of the European Parliament.

The European People’s Party who won the last election has not made its choice known and said that at a first stage, they would draw a “profile” of the candidate.

The Liberal ALDE party will make its decision known in May. Many liberals want to see Guy Verhofstadt as their candidate, but NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, a Danish liberal, has reportedly plans to run for the office of Council President Herman Van Rompuy. It is difficult to imagine that two top posts, for grabs almost simultaneously, would end up with the Liberal family, which has been ranking third at the last two European elections.

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EUEUEUEUEU declares prunes to have no laxative effect; drinking water can't stop dehydration

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Prunes are not a laxative, EU rules

By Donna Bowater
7:18AM GMT 14 Dec 2011

The EU has ruled that prunes do not have a laxative effect and producers cannot say that they do. It comes after the organization was mocked last month a ruling that led to a ban on claims that drinking water can prevent dehydration.

Despite a long held belief that prunes, traditionally served with custard, are good for improving bowel function, the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has ruled this is not the case.

Its experts said there was "insufficient" evidence of a link between the dried plums and normal bowel function after looking at three studies of prune consumption.

Sir Graham Watson, MEP, has now challenged an EU Commissioner to a prune-eating contest after his food safety committee ruled that prunes do not have a laxative effect.

Sir Graham, the Liberal Democrat member for South West England and Gibraltar, raised the issue in Strasbourg after the EU refused to recognize the high fiber content of fruits like pomegranates, berries and prunes.

"The European Commission's advisory panel which does this work has rejected 95 percent of claims for plant-based foods, maybe in many cases with good reason, but among the claims rejected is the claim that prunes have a laxative effect," he said. "I have asked the Commission if it is satisfied with the criteria and the methodology used for testing such claims because I know that prunes contain two substances sorbitol and dihydrophenylisatin, which have laxative effects. But most of our constituents do not require a scientific test. I have also invited the Commissioner responsible for health and consumer policy, John Dalli, to a prune-eating contest to see for himself."

Last February, an EFSA paper reported: "The Panel concludes that the evidence provided is insufficient to establish a cause and effect relationship between the consumption of dried plums of 'prune' cultivars (Prunus domestica L.) and maintenance of normal bowel function."

The authority had been asked to investigate claims that prunes ensure healthy digestion and bowel function. In two studies, it was claimed there was no significant difference to participants after eating prunes.

Sir Graham added: "Consumer advice and food labelling is an important aspect of the single market. Having one set of clear guidelines on nutritional advice across 27 countries improves efficiency, saves taxpayer's money and brings an even playing field to food manufacturers."

Last month, the EU concluded there was no evidence to prove drinking water can prevent dehydration. The conclusions led to a ban on bottled water companies using the claim.

At the time, Conservative MEP Roger Helmer said: “This is stupidity writ large. The euro is burning, the EU is falling apart and yet here they are: highly-paid, highly-pensioned officials worrying about the obvious qualities of water and trying to deny us the right to say what is patently true. If ever there were an episode which demonstrates the folly of the great European project, then this is it.”

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