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Posted by Concourse Express on Wed Jan 4 23:56:21 2012, in response to Re: OP-ED: What Americans keep ignoring about Finland's school success, posted by JayMan on Wed Jan 4 22:15:51 2012. ...American Whites outperform Whites in all other countries except Finland. As Richard Lynn excellently points out, tests like the PISA and the SAT (particularly the older SAT) are really IQ tests, and national differences in performance reflect national differences in IQ. Indeed, it is possible that Finland's high score on the PISA, slightly higher than one would expect based on their IQ alone, is because they don't have private schools siphoning off some of their highest scorers (don't know if private school students in the U.S. and other countries take the PISA).While I'm having trouble accessing the Lynn article you linked at the moment, I must ask: wouldn't a situation where private schools "siphon" (potentially) higher scorers and higher achievers underscore the socioeconomic problem? Or put another way, if the financial barriers were removed here, as they were in Finland, would we see higher achievement amongst underperforming groups? I ask because I've seen some research suggesting significant correlation between SES and academic performance... I will, however, note the significant gap between Whites and non-Whites (the so-called "achievement gap") and state that I'm not necessarily seeking a solution that "makes blacks/Hispanics/etc perform like Whites" but rather one that makes them (and anyone else with a low SES) perform better. Handicapping them with watered-down curricula and a flurry of tests won't solve this problem - hell, we've discussed this before at length. This is a complete load of tired old HBD blind rubbish that needs to stop being recycled. For a second I thought that perhaps you posted it just to get me going. I disagree on the article being "rubbish" given that people of low SES of all races perform poorer than their higher-SES peers. That said, your commentary on human biodiversity is interesting, especially given its statistical nature (I have a thing for stats, as that's one of my favorite subjects to tutor). I know ed. reform can't modulate students' IQ so differences will always exist, but I don't advocate doing nothing vis a vis education for people born in disadvantaged groups/SES. my blog |
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