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Re: ARTICLE: America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta |
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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sat Jul 9 17:36:13 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta, posted by JayMan on Sat Jul 9 16:24:01 2011. "Let us fully split this hair:"No, let's not. It's a useless discussion, and comes down simply to you trying to calculate your way out of having to acknowledge the real problems. "Apparently you missed this article:" One man's opinion, and I disagree. Being a teacher myself, I personally see how the level of teaching, and the way in which students are guided affects their performance. IQ and personality tells you what their POTENTIAL is, not how they will actually perform. There are too many outside factors that can stop or hinder students from reaching that potential. The way a school and school system deal with that can be VERY important, and greatly influence the student's actual performance. I say this from experience. "education cannot make people smarter, it can only make people more knowledgeable." I don't think anybody has claimed otherwise, though I would like to add 'and skilled' to the end of that statement. And being knowledgeable and skilled are important things. How much knowledge and skills a student has at the end of his or her education determines how high the level of education is. "Adjusting standards up or down has the sole effect of changing the pass/fail rate on any given population" Incorrect. If it is accompanied by thorough changes in the way classes are organised and taught, that does not need to be the case. Pass / fail rates, at least over here, are determined based not on smarts, but on knowledge and skills. The things that are learned in school. "we could do away with much of the educational apparatus and still have much the same results." And yet, we haven't. Anywhere. Could that possibly be because things aren't as simple as you're trying to present them? |
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