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Posted by Scorpio7 on Sun Jul 10 05:13:41 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: America's biggest teacher and principal cheating scandal unfolds in Atlanta, posted by JayMan on Sun Jul 10 00:20:50 2011. "You're saying the way education is structured can improve or degrade the performance of students en masse."Yes. PERFORMANCE, not INTELLIGENCE. Major difference. Intelligence is basically what you're capable of doing. Performance what you actually do with that intelligence. "You can't change how much students actually learn (beyond their optimal pace, anyway) and certainly not what they can understand." Beyond their optimal pace, anyway. Important words. The US system often means they don't reach that optimal pace. And no, you can't change how much they CAN understand, but you most certainly can change how much they DO understand. "And that is determined by the person's IQ, determination, and chance. Mostly by IQ." While those are most certainly big factors, you're ignoring the outside influence. Personal problems like the parents going through a nasty divorce, puberty, etc, can have, and very often does have, a MAJOR impact on students' performance in school, and that is where teachers and schools come in, and where they can, and DO, make a major difference. "But knowledge and skills are determined in large part by smarts. That's the key point you're missing" I've never denied that. But you're making it seem like that's the ONLY part. It isn't. For example: a school system, like the American one often is, that is not challenging enough for students with a high IQ, works as a major demotivator, and they often start underperforming. Which is why it is so important to have a system that is geared towards each individual's potential. Those with the high IQs take lots of theoretical courses, like sciences and languages, while others take more practical courses. A good system is one that seeks to bring out the potential in each individual student. I don't see enough of that in the US system. |
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