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Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar

Posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 20:22:21 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu May 8 17:19:01 2014.

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I guess this wouldn't interest you since it occurred prior to 1967, which seems to be your marker for history, but in 1947, the UN did just what you describe in the British Mandate area of Palestine. The Jews accepted the proposal. The Arabs did not and went to war, they wanted the whole region for themselves. I wrote what happened next somewhere else in this thread. How come that isn't of interest to you?

You ripped up several straw men but completely missed the point.

The point is this: Israel declares itself open to every member of a vast diaspora and only members of that diaspora. Neither the Czech Republic nor Slovakia is willing to admit anybody on the planet who is willing to deny the tastiness of cheeseburgers and mutilate their kids' genitals.

We're back to drama and exaggeration now?

Please don't pretend you can't understand figurative language.

Remember the Passover thread, that didn't go well.

I think it went swimmingly. I made a joke, a bunch of fools threw massive tantrums, and then I mocked them for it and much fun was had by all (except the fools).

The rights of Muslims and Christians to worship and live as they please is not curtailed in any way within Israel's borders.

Once again, you use a qualified statement and hope I won't notice.

OK, try this:

Chris Cohen was born in Canada and has never been to Israel. However, at some point, he thinks he'd be able to find a better job in Tel Aviv. Will he be able to move to Israel? What factors might potentially prevent him from doing so?

They do not have the right to murder innocent Israelis in the name of terrorism however.

"In the name of terrorism?" Well my days of not taking you seriously are definitely coming to a middle.

This oppression isn't supposed, it was quite real and Israel was created as a result. The need isn't gone now that Israel exists, either.

The need is substantially less than that of people who face oppression but aren't rich or powerful or connected enough to build their own countries to escape it. Accepting them would be the decent thing to do.

Israel is meant to be a state for Jews to flee to when they face persecution, it can't possibly hold the doors open for everyone and anyone who needs to flee something, at least not to settle permanently. An unfortunate reality but one that is necessary in today's world.

How many Jews fled to how many countries in the 1930s and 40s only to be turned away because those countries couldn't possibly hold the doors open for everyone and anyone who needs to flee something, at least not to settle permanently?

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