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Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007

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Earlier this morning, I was on #6281 on the S44 and it was miserable as expected. But as we got closer towards St. George, we started tailing the bus in front of us.

Not too long after did I notice that the bus in front of us was #6329. Just a week before, this bus was looking amazing, but today it was filled with scratches on the windows and the seats were looking so-so. My question is, what happened to this bus? I thought it was part of the S89 fleet and Level IIed at that. It certainly did not look like anything even close to Level II today.

Around mid-day, I took a trip to the SI Mall, and spotted #6239 again on the S44, but also #6325 on the S59 and #6332 on the S79. Maybe the MTA brought them out on other routes mid-day because they knew there wouldn't be any school kids on them to mess them up again?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Sep 21 18:20:10 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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Well the honeymoons over I guess back to reality on the s89.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 21 18:26:01 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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It's the route that has an equipment restriction, not the equipment having a route restriction. In other words, the Level II buses can run on any route, but ONLY Level II buses are to be used on the S89.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by busdude2 on Fri Sep 21 18:27:25 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 21 18:26:01 2007.

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Not if the use them on other routes they will not stay level II.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by The TransitMan on Fri Sep 21 18:41:57 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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"Around mid-day, I took a trip to the SI Mall, and spotted #6239 again on the S44"


You mean Orion 05.501 #6329, right? Orion 05.501 #6239 is at Casey Stengel.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:43:01 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by The TransitMan on Fri Sep 21 18:41:57 2007.

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Yes that is exactly what I meant..although...it probably won't be long before that becomes reality.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Sep 21 20:47:36 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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I'm glad you created a new thread (SIR) North Shore Line, as today I finally faced my "fear" and went to Staten Island and I wanted to tell you without "necroposting".

Well, I must say the MTA is really trying hard with that S89 Limited route, the bus was right there after my Bayonne Flyer arrived and it flew over the rather decrepit Bayonne Bridge at about 50-60MPH and that to my surprise, the bus was actually in good shape, and I was so glad when another black guy boarded the bus at 34th Street. The driver was also making a lot of unnecessary announcements like "The time is now 5PM" or "Welcome to Staten Island!", he was a little bit too interested in his job.

I was planning on riding S89 Limited, but after seeing this cool looking transit center after the mall, I got off there and grabbed me some goodies, that place is a dream for a busfan like me that likes to read schedules sometimes, it's also a busfan's dream for kind of a lunch break if you're doing a day long fan as that the people don't usually wait inside the building, and the bathrooms were decent and the food in the vending machines tasted good.

After grabbing my schedules and getting a quick snack, I then let a brutalized ex-Queens Village RTS doing the Bay Ridge S79 go for an equally brutalized 1999 Orion V doing the Bay Ridge S79 as I like the Orion Vs, that ride was alright as the bell didn't work (there was a poorly written sign behind the driver that read "No Bell, Yell Stop!"), though thankfully, no one got off until the last stop. I must also add that the girls along Hylan Boulevard was pretty good looking, though the faces could have use some improvement. I even made a friend with this guy on the S79 because we were clowning on this drunk Mexican sitting on a seat with something that looked like doo-doo on top of it.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 21:03:53 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Sep 21 20:47:36 2007.

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I'm glad you created a new thread (SIR) North Shore Line, as today I finally faced my "fear" and went to Staten Island and I wanted to tell you without "necroposting".

I'm glad you did as well, it's definitely not as bad as may have thought it would have been. If you didn't feel comfortable, you could've easily hopped off before Forest Avenue and caught any of the North Shore bus routes (where the ridership demographics is a mixed bag)

The driver was also making a lot of unnecessary announcements like "The time is now 5PM" or "Welcome to Staten Island!", he was a little bit too interested in his job.

I've noticed that as well. They're really trying to sell the route to riders. Every single time I've ridden the S89, in either direction, they make 100% more announcements than can be found on any other route.

I was planning on riding S89 Limited, but after seeing this cool looking transit center after the mall, I got off there and grabbed me some goodies, that place is a dream for a busfan like me that likes to read schedules sometimes, it's also a busfan's dream for kind of a lunch break if you're doing a day long fan as that the people don't usually wait inside the building, and the bathrooms were decent and the food in the vending machines tasted good.

The transit center you've mentioned is known as "Eltingville Transit Center" and it's a very nice bus center. I now wonder how bus riders (and the bus storage dept. at Yukon) used to manage without it.

After grabbing my schedules and getting a quick snack, I then let a brutalized ex-Queens Village RTS doing the Bay Ridge S79 go for an equally brutalized 1999 Orion V doing the Bay Ridge S79 as I like the Orion Vs, that ride was alright as the bell didn't work (there was a poorly written sign behind the driver that read "No Bell, Yell Stop!"), though thankfully, no one got off until the last stop.

When it comes to the No Bell thing, I think it's hilarious seeing the many ways drivers come up with the signs.

The normal one would be No Bell! Yell "Next Stop"! but one bus had signs that said "No Bell - Holla!!", another one had a drawing of a woman yelling out "Next Stop", another one had a huge yellow smiley face crying and inside the circle was a "No Bell" sign, but what topped it all was one HUGE drawing that shown people crying and distressed and next to the people was the sign "No Bell :(".

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by P-rad M on Fri Sep 21 22:05:25 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 21 18:26:01 2007.

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No. ONLY buses with a USDOT number can run on the S89, PERIOD.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by P-rad M on Fri Sep 21 22:21:00 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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CRAP! Those MOFOS.

But wait, why am I not surprised?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 22:29:30 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by P-rad M on Fri Sep 21 22:21:00 2007.

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Well, I wasn't really surprised to see the S89 fleet on other routes but the condition of #6329 is what really shocked me.


but right now...on a completely different note..I wonder what an S44 or S46 sign would look like on a Hybrid..

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Re: the bus look like this?

Posted by 3440 on Fri Sep 21 23:25:00 2007, in response to Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 18:16:42 2007.

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Re: the bus look like this?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 23:37:30 2007, in response to Re: the bus look like this?, posted by 3440 on Fri Sep 21 23:25:00 2007.

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The seats were nicely groomed on #6329 but the windows were scratched up like all hell..

But the bus above..which looks to be a Castleton or Yukon O5 on the S53 or S79 (they recently swapped the stops and now the S79 is closer to the subway entrance)....is about average for most of the fleet...with some looking a lot worse and others looking a little better and then the small percentage of Level II buses.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 00:33:47 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Sep 21 21:03:53 2007.

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Yeah, I was surprised when I saw all the *hot* hispanics along Morningstar Road (IIRC), actually reminded me of the Bronx.

And the MTA is doing a great job on selling the route, two older Italian laides on the bus were discussing how much of a nice guy the driver was and how they should ride the route more often, the MTA's corny marketing tactics for this route is actually working, especially when compared to the 144.

It's nice that you mentioned the Yukon storage part, as I was wondering why there was only two cars in the depot while 5 MCIs were parked right behind those cars.

Lol at those No Bells idea, now I can see why you always complain about Staten Island's buses though, even LIB maintains their buses better.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:16:41 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by P-rad M on Fri Sep 21 22:05:25 2007.

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Only USDOT buses and drivers should be on the S89, X17J, X22, and X30.

The really SAD thing is that the drivers have no clue that they will be PERSONALLY held responsible for this if any of those buses have a major accident. In the land of Federal buses, the driver is saddled with checking major things on the bus.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:28:06 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 00:33:47 2007.

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Huh?

The S89 halo is collapsing. They missed the 5:40pm run yesterday and today, we picked up 15 S89 passengers at the Light Rail. Why would they get on the 144 instead of the S89?

There is propanganda and there is the truth.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:29:39 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by busdude2 on Fri Sep 21 18:20:10 2007.

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Heh...that's right.

The special treatment can only last so long.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by busdude2 on Sat Sep 22 06:58:09 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:29:39 2007.

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I knew it would not last its the MTA same crap different day.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by P-rad M on Sat Sep 22 10:03:07 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:28:06 2007.

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Well, I think I know why that probably happened:

1. Traffic is horrible on Richmond Avenue around SI Mall. Once that bus leaves Eltingville Transit Center, expect some traffic.

2. There was probably traffic getting on the Bayonne Bridge and crossing it. And also probably once getting into Bayonne on Route 440. Traffic can get bad in that area. Trust me, thats the route I have to take when having to pay a visit to someone at work.

So all that delayed the deadhead to Bayonne, and the bus in service to Bayonne.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by busdude2 on Sat Sep 22 10:30:27 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by P-rad M on Sat Sep 22 10:03:07 2007.

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Thats really not an excuse if the traffic is always like that they need to adjust the schedule. And what happened to them having a bus sitting at 34th street just in case they needed it ? Thats what they were doing earlier this month.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 11:21:27 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:28:06 2007.

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I wasn't talking about operations, I was talking about marketing, and face it, the MTA's marketing strategy for the route is working.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 13:44:50 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 11:21:27 2007.

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Not really.

Unless the MTA's goal is to discourage ridership within Staten Island. If the S59 is getting hammered on SI, the S89 should use its capacity to help it out. However, most local riders know nothing about it.

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Re: the bus look like this?

Posted by caine515 on Sat Sep 22 14:24:00 2007, in response to Re: the bus look like this?, posted by 3440 on Fri Sep 21 23:25:00 2007.

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i thought the buses have some sort of plastic covering that you can replace the windows if needed. i have seen it on the Q76 on Orion v #611 and it's not on the Orion V out of YUK and CS?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 14:50:47 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Sep 21 20:47:36 2007.

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You really are scared of Staten Island? Have you ever been outside of the NYC area?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 15:01:42 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 13:44:50 2007.

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So? Either way, as long as those riders are riding MTA buses, I doubt they care. Also, local riders to know about the route, during my ride, a huge crowd got on Victory Boulevard (IIRC).

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 15:10:16 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 14:50:47 2007.

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I have been outside the New York City area several times, as a matter of fact, I think I've been to Chicago/Detroit/Philly more times than Staten Island.

Except I put "fear" in parentheses because that's the best way describing my disliking for Staten Island, I didn't like it because all my friends that it's very racist against Blacks and Hispanic and when I Googled "Racism in Staten Island" once, I saw some horrible stories about white people getting special treatment against blacks when it came to matters like housing.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 15:23:25 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Sep 22 15:10:16 2007.

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Okay, I get it.

I saw some horrible stories about white people getting special treatment against blacks when it came to matters like housing.

That's pretty much everywhere in the US. But much of the discrimination is rooted in financial stereotypes rather than social stereotypes if that makes you feel any better.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 18:34:55 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:16:41 2007.

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I cetainly hope the drivers themselves are aware of this. Otherwise they better let their TWU rep know about it.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 18:53:05 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Sep 21 20:47:36 2007.

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RyogaRidesTheMTA likely feels that the bell actually did work but the driver shut them off just to inconvience the ridership.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 22 18:59:39 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 18:34:55 2007.

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...or in this case, the ATU.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 19:05:07 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 22 18:59:39 2007.

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I stand corrected.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Sep 22 19:06:22 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 18:53:05 2007.

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I agree..it's almost too clear that the bells are not working because of lack of maintenence at the depots. They almost always have the "Stop Request" thing covered up in paper with the sign "No bell" and now they even write it in permanent marker, and they obviously were sent out of the depots like that.

If you've ever ridden any of Castleton's own 1995 O5s (not the ex-CS ones), the bells don't work on any of them. They all seem to be permanently disconnected or broken as Castleton appears to have simply given up on the 4xx fleet.

On a side note though, what's up with #95xx Yukon Novas always powering off (and in some cases disabling) at random times in service?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 19:23:53 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 01:16:41 2007.

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What does that mean? ALL drivers are held personally responsible for their vehicles. It's just that the DOT has codified the driver responsibilities for insuring that the vehicle is safe.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 19:34:06 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Sep 22 19:06:22 2007.

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FP has 9500's too and they are JUNK. The 9100's, eventhough older, are much better.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 22 19:47:27 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 19:23:53 2007.

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However, the USDOT will sometimes take the driver out to the proverbial shed, even if (s)he was ordered to take the bus out under threat of discipline.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 19:52:44 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 22 19:47:27 2007.

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Examples?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 19:58:56 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 19:23:53 2007.

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It means that if your bus is supposed to be USDOT and it is not, both the driver as well as the MTA could receive tickets. Although the MTA has authority, it is not running their interstate buses according to those rules except for the S89, which is almost compliant. If I were an MTA driver, I wouldn't be running through NJ without the USDOT certification. Most of the drivers don't know and the ones that do know think the big blue blanket will protect them.

The law states that if you CROSS state lines, you have to follow the USDOT rules. It doesn't care where you stop. Now, the MTA is really in a vat of manure since they are acknowledging that they know that the rules exist on the S89. Of course, if the MTA wants to shoot themselves in the foot with something of a large caliber, they can enjoy themselves.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 20:12:00 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 19:52:44 2007.

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Tickets get issued for "improperly placed bus identification numbers", "improper color on company legals" (they should be BLACK, not blue as on the S89), "excessive tinting on passenger windows" and all sorts of stuff. What do you think will happen to buses with no legals, logbooks/trip sheets (no, paddles don't count) and other stuff?

New York City Transit is ASSUMED to be legal because they are expected to know the law. Of course, they have used this assumption to run illegally. Buses like this get busted when they commit a traffic violation or get into an accident and if that happens in NJ, you've got problems. If that is what the MTA wants to happen...

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 20:14:53 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 19:58:56 2007.

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I think I got it. Drivers on the interstate buses assume risks that intrastate drivers don't. Do you think that they receive extra compensation?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by QM18Express on Sat Sep 22 23:39:46 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 20:12:00 2007.

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("improper color on company legals")
So U telling us that black is the legit color for USDOT # stickers? I have seen some trucks with red USDOT stickers

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 23 00:14:02 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by JAzumah on Sat Sep 22 20:12:00 2007.

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However, what if the paint scheme is black? It would make sense to have a contrasting color.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Sun Sep 23 05:57:41 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Sep 22 18:53:05 2007.

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Well, RyogaRidesTheMTA has also asked various Staten Island bus drivers on rehabbed (non-Level II) buses, and 3 of them so far have answered that the bells were working but were switched off, for reasons undisclosed (RyogaRidesTheMTA doesn't bother asking drivers more than one question). Keep in mind RyogaRidesTheMTA wouldn't make remarks about anything if he hasn't have any backing towards it, since it's only his nature, being an NYU graduate and all. If you would like RyogaRidesTheMTA to try asking drivers why bells don't work on rehabbed buses with a tape recorder for proof, please provide him with a day off of work to conduct the questioning again and with a tape recorder, since some people obviously need audio proof. RyogaRidesTheMTA has previously stated that he's asked actual drivers--but certain people seem to miss that statement, so it is not a that he "feels" the drivers shut them off, he's assured that drivers shut them off since the drivers have told him so upon asking them.

Lastly, RyogaRidesTheMTA would prefer if anyone, especially certain people from Maspeth, has something to say about him, please e-mail him off-board and that people would be as nice not to mention him, but he warns that he has a very powerful spam blocker, thus the message might not even reach him. Thank you.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sun Sep 23 12:30:50 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 22 20:14:53 2007.

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The MTA is putting the drivers on the X17J, X22, and X30 at risk by ignoring the federal regulations that they are responsible for.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by JAzumah on Sun Sep 23 12:33:10 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 23 00:14:02 2007.

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Some companies put the lettering in white and others put a white sticker on.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 23 13:41:53 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Sun Sep 23 05:57:41 2007.

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Why the "I speak in third person" bit?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Sep 23 20:08:28 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Sun Sep 23 05:57:41 2007.

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Gee, I wonder who certain people from Maspeth may be? Plus, I am not such a ruthless individual to send you or anybody else any kind of spam. I find that insinuation offensive. Now if the drivers intentionally shut off the bells, I think they need a check up from the neck up. I fail to see what they are trying to prove.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Easy on Sun Sep 23 21:12:28 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 23 13:41:53 2007.

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That's exactly what Easy was wondering.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 23 21:18:57 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Easy on Sun Sep 23 21:12:28 2007.

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Others here have done that too. Julie (IIRC) used to, but I think she has stopped.

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by mr_brian on Sun Sep 23 21:21:09 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by RyogaRidesTheMTA on Sun Sep 23 05:57:41 2007.

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Why the need to speak in third-person?

It makes you sound incredibly pompous.

...being an NYU graduate and all...
Geez, would you like a piece of Twix?

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Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?

Posted by mr_brian on Sun Sep 23 21:21:36 2007, in response to Re: Exclusive S89 Fleet Not So Exclusive?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 23 21:18:57 2007.

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If she did, thank goodness.

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