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Posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019 The MTA plans to pull all of its 21-year-old, diesel-burning buses from service by May 10.The agency announced its plans to scrap the vehicles Thursday, less than a week after a Daily News analysis showed that Brooklyn’s poorest neighborhoods are stuck with the MTA’s oldest buses. The buses in question are the model RTS-06s, which spew hot diesel exhaust out the back and cause major health concerns for the communities they roll through. The MTA currently has 168 of them in service, and they’ll be replaced by a combination of brand new buses and hybrid models, according to MTA spokesman Max Young. The first of the Volvo-built bruisers to be scrapped this spring will come from the East New York bus depot, which houses buses for routes in two of the borough’s lowest-income neighborhoods, East New York and Brownsville. The depot currently holds 21 of the buses, all of which will be pulled by the end of March. The Flatbush depot, which also houses buses for routes that serve East New York and Brownsville, currently has 48 of the problematic vehicles. The MTA has vowed to scrap a dozen of those by the end of March, and all but three will be gone by the end of April. The other three depots that house the buses are Michael J. Quill depot in Midtown Manhattan, Jamaica depot in Queens, and Ulmer Park depot in Gravesend, Brooklyn. The number of RTS buses in service citywide will drop to 127 by the end of March, 37 by the end of April, and to zero by May 10, agency officials said. “We’re looking forward to modernizing our fleet in every part of the city,” said Darryl Irick, the MTA’s head of buses. "The significant infusion of funds that would come from congestion pricing, if lawmakers approve it, will allow us to do even more to bring the latest buses to every neighborhood.” Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams responded to The News’ findings earlier this week by calling for the City Council and state Legislature to investigate the issue. He said the inequitable distribution of old buses in Brooklyn showed how important it is to fully fund NYC Transit President Andy Byford’s “Fast Forward” plan to overhaul the city’s transit system. “This positive development doesn’t negate the need for a thorough review of how we arrived at this situation and I look forward to working with my colleagues in city and state government as well as the MTA to do so," said Adams. "As we roll out new infrastructure, it is important that we prioritize those communities with the highest need, including those with the highest asthma-related illnesses.” The buses that will replace the RTS models will still run on diesel in one form or another — the MTA has only a handful of fully-electric buses. Still, the newest diesel buses are more efficient than the ones manufactured in the 1990s, and come with amenities like WiFi and phone charging ports. Environmental justice advocates want the MTA to transition to an entirely electric bus fleet over the next 20 years, which will require major infrastructure upgrades at the agency’s 29 bus depots as well as the implementation of charging stations on city streets. “We applaud The News for uncovering this disparity and forcing the MTA’s hand,” said Eddie Bautista, executive director of NYC Environmental Justice Alliance. "What communities of color need now is a firm timetable for the full electrification of all NYC buses by 2040, so we’re no longer at the mercy of bureaucratic discretionary abuse.” https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-mta-buses-brooklyn-rts-scrap-diesel-20190322-gnicunimtndgxiwnpjyrrzkxhy-story.html |
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Posted by JAzumah on Fri Mar 22 13:52:46 2019, in response to NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019. I want to know when the sale is going to happen. These buses have held up really well compared to their 8000 series predecessors. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 22 15:54:54 2019, in response to NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019. I'll definitely be seeking out a last ride on the RTS. So many memories / stories in my life associated with that model. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Mar 22 18:25:11 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 22 15:54:54 2019. We had them in Philadelphia, and sadly, I never rode one. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 22 19:06:59 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Mar 22 18:25:11 2019. #8226 at 5th & Arch St. (November 23, 1986) 
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 23 17:13:19 2019, in response to NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019. Which routes still have the RTSs? |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sat Mar 23 18:10:03 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Mar 22 18:25:11 2019. I liked the SEPTA RTS once they were repowered. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Sat Mar 23 21:25:27 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Mar 23 17:13:19 2019. I see them on the B3 and the B44 all the time |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 24 08:04:23 2019, in response to NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019. Bitter sweet for me. As a little kid the fishbowls were on the way out but my childhood was dominated by rides on the RTS buses particularly on the B46, B78 (pre B47) and a little less on the B12 & B17. Guess you can infer where I grew up...lol |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 24 12:19:49 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 24 08:04:23 2019. Yup. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 24 14:23:55 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 22 19:06:59 2019. Thanks, Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 24 17:49:07 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 22 19:06:59 2019. That's the first model right? What's that on the roof? Auxiliary a/c? |
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Posted by Caine515 on Mon Mar 25 14:17:27 2019, in response to NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by gold_12th on Fri Mar 22 11:25:24 2019. The biggest question is what will replace the rts buses? I dont believe enough new buses will arrive by the time they are supposed to retire. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 25 14:26:14 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Caine515 on Mon Mar 25 14:17:27 2019. Does service get cut anywhere when various college Spring semesters end ? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Mar 25 14:52:09 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Caine515 on Mon Mar 25 14:17:27 2019. Maybe there will be a surplus because of the cancellation of the L shutdown. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 27 09:59:32 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Ftgreeneg on Sun Mar 24 08:04:23 2019. I had to grow to appreciate them, but it did come. My issue was that NYCTA at one point simply had so many of them. I remember that point in the early 90s when they came close to having a 100% RTS fleet. The number of GMC/Flxible new looks were dwindling quickly, and I was thrilled when the '93 Orion Vs arrived for no other reason that it was something different. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 27 10:00:55 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 22 19:06:59 2019. I rode SEPTA's many times toward the end of their lives after that had been repowered. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Mar 27 15:32:05 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 27 09:59:32 2019. I’m glad they didn’t have a 100% RTS fleet. like the R-40s being my least favorite subway car, the RTS was my least favorite bus. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Mar 27 16:16:57 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 27 15:32:05 2019. Same here. I remember all of the orders, and by the late 80s the TA was several orders in, but they kept on coming:-). Not only was I thrilled to see something different in the '93 Orion Vs... I was also glad my home depot (Kingsbridge) rec'd a bunch of them.I did like the slant R-40s:-). |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 28 08:06:04 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by randyo on Wed Mar 27 15:32:05 2019. I feel that way about the R68s. I know they do the job and everything but they dominated the Brighton Line in the 90s and it seemed that was the only car I was on for a long while. When the B handed over its R40 slants to the then-orange-Q it was a wonderful thing. I got over a decade in with the slants and their RFWs on the Brighton Express that I never thought I would get (I had always thought I'd have to detour to Culver or West End for an outdoor RFW in southern Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Fri Mar 29 21:39:42 2019, in response to Re: NY Daily News: ALL current RTS buses to be retire around this May, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 22 15:54:54 2019. I will definitely miss the RTSs. They were my all time favorite buses. As far as I'm concerned they sort of "revolutionized" the MTA bus system. What I mean by that, everybody wants to talk about the glory days of the GMC and Flxible New Looks, but thanks to the TA's lack of maintenance, those buses were in terrible shape. Over 90% of the local bus fleet had no working a/c, graffiti, filthy. In fact the subways were better in that you had a better chance of getting a car with a\c.The introduction of the RTS signalled the end of graffiti (except the back seats), a/c, forward facing seats, tinted windows. Things I always associated with suburban transit or other transit systems altogether. I could ride an RTS all day long. The problem is that the city brought so many exclusively for years, then NYCDOT went RTS crazy as well. After 38 years its going to be weird not seeing them anywhere in NYC. It's also ashamed that they are being unceremoniously phased out because of a bunch of whiners. |
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