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W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th

Posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 06:00:31 2017

Another in a series of supplements to IRTRedbirdR33's "Tuscarora Almanacs"


November 10, 1963 - The Book of Last Runs and Route Modifications

Manhattan, New York
Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority

Centre Street from Reade Street to Spring Street, Lafayette Street from Spring Street to 9th / 10th Streets, Fourth Avenue from 8th Street to 14th Street, and Avenue of the Americas (Sixth Avenue) from Franklin Street to 34th Street - Herald Square are all converted to one-way northbound; while Broadway between 34th Street - Herald Square and 23rd Street - Madison Square, and between 14th Street - Union Square and Canal Street, becomes one-way southbound. Several MaBSTOA routes (descriptions as on side roll signs at the time) are affected by these changes, as follows:
- 1 (Park and Madison Avenues via 135th Street): South of 14th Street - Union Square, southbound buses now travel south on Broadway all through to its southern terminus at Park Row / City Hall.
- 2 (Park and Madison Avenues via 116th Street): Below 14th Street, southbound buses run south on Broadway to 4th Street, then east on 4th Street and north on the Bowery and Fourth Avenue to its 8th Street terminus.
- 2 (Fifth and Seventh Avenues) and 3 (Fifth and Convent or St. Nicholas Avenues): Southern terminus for both routes moved further east to 8th Street and Fourth Avenue. Northbound buses then go one block north on Fourth Avenue and then west on 9th Street / Wanamaker Place towards Fifth Avenue.
- 5 (Fifth Avenue / Riverside Drive): Southern terminus extended further south to Houston Street and West Broadway (La Guardia Place). This necessitates a change in route path south of Fifth Avenue and 8th Street: east on 8th Street, south on Broadway, west on Houston Street to its aforementioned terminus; then on northbound trips, further west on Houston to Sixth Avenue, north on Sixth, and then east on 8th Street to Fifth Avenue. This will prefigure the shifting of this route's northbound path to the rest of Sixth up to 57th Street upon the 1966 one-way conversions of Fifth and Madison Avenues. (Ironically, in Fifth Avenue Coach days, some runs of the 5 terminated at 8th Street and Fourth Avenue, traveling around the same route path at the start of its northern journey as the 2 and 3 do from this date onwards.)
- 5 (Sixth Avenue): Entire route discontinued and absorbed into . . .
- 6 (Broadway and Seventh Avenue) - which now runs north along Trinity Place, Church Street and Sixth Avenue for the entire northbound trek from the Battery to its 59th Street / Central Park South terminus. Route description changed first to "Broadway and Avenue of the Americas," then later to "Broadway, Seventh Avenue and Avenue of the Americas."
- 7 (Broadway, Columbus and Lenox Avenues): From its southern terminus at 23rd Street and Broadway, northbound buses now operate west on 23rd Street and then north on Sixth Avenue to the West 50's.

(Sources: "City to Extend One-Way Traffic To 3 Manhattan Routes Sunday; Broadway, Sixth Avenue and Lafayette Included—New Bus Patterns Also Due." The New York Times, November 5, 1963, p. 1, cont'd p. 61; " 'Village' to Get More Bus Runs; 15-an-Hour Scheduling on 5th Ave.-Houston St. Line Will Begin on Sunday." The New York Times, November 8, 1963, p. 33.)

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 12:14:03 2017, in response to W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th, posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 06:00:31 2017.

2 Park And Madison: Did the 2 continue to extend down to 4th until eliminated in 1969?

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th

Posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 13:02:37 2017, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 12:14:03 2017.

Well, after the 1966 one-way conversions of Fifth and Madison that saw its downtown route shifted to Fifth, 2 Fifth/Madison/Lenox (as known from then until its 1969 demise) went directly east on 8th Street from Fifth Avenue to its southern terminus. Being of NYCO pedigree, between 9th and 14th Streets northbound runs operated straight north on Fourth Avenue (confirmed by a 1968 bus dispatcher's map of Manhattan as at the Transit Museum); only 2A and 3 went the circuitous path of west on 9th / north on University Place / east on 14th to Union Square East, which was the path derived from ex-FACCo routes that terminated at 8th and Fourth. (Again, per that dispatcher's map.)

And I may've mentioned this somewhere else, but it occurred to me why people would have thought the two 2's (NYCO and FACCo) would have been "combined" at the time of the Fifth and Madison conversions of 1966: buses assigned to that route stored at 146th Street that had outdated side roll signs (namely 1964 order 5303's beginning with 5201 and 1965 batwings beginning with 6701) which indicated '2 - Madison Ave via 116 St' and '2 - 5th & 7th Avenues', as opposed to the 1967 A/C batwings (of which 146 St. got the last of the batch up to 8780) that correctly noted '2 - 5th & Madison via Lenox' and '2A - 5th & Madison via Seventh Ave' respectively. Older buses therefore had cases where ex-FACCo 2(A)'s going uptown sported '2 - Madison Ave via 116 St' on the sides, and conversely southbound ex-NYCO 2's sides reading '2 - 5th & 7th Avenues'.

But I also have to wonder if, at the very start of the 101A 3rd/Lexington/Lenox, it was at least temporarily assigned out of 'OFS' before being transferred to the 100th Street depot. I ask because of this link which showed a c.1969 picture of a 1967 A/C batwing on route 101A (as seen on the front rollsign) about to be towed away from City Hall by a MaBSTOA truck - but its side reading '2 - 5th & Madison via Lenox'.

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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th

Posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 13:08:28 2017, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th, posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 13:02:37 2017.

P.S. I meant to say that in 1966-69, both ex-NYCO 2 and ex-FACCo 2(A) were stationed out of 146 St. But both suffered from inaccurate, outdated side rollsigns on the 1964 and 1965 buses that were stored there, with only the 1967 A/C batwings having a semblance of correct info.

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