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Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th

Posted by W.B. on Fri Nov 10 13:02:37 2017, in response to Re: W.B.'s Bus Almanac for November 10th, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 10 12:14:03 2017.

Well, after the 1966 one-way conversions of Fifth and Madison that saw its downtown route shifted to Fifth, 2 Fifth/Madison/Lenox (as known from then until its 1969 demise) went directly east on 8th Street from Fifth Avenue to its southern terminus. Being of NYCO pedigree, between 9th and 14th Streets northbound runs operated straight north on Fourth Avenue (confirmed by a 1968 bus dispatcher's map of Manhattan as at the Transit Museum); only 2A and 3 went the circuitous path of west on 9th / north on University Place / east on 14th to Union Square East, which was the path derived from ex-FACCo routes that terminated at 8th and Fourth. (Again, per that dispatcher's map.)

And I may've mentioned this somewhere else, but it occurred to me why people would have thought the two 2's (NYCO and FACCo) would have been "combined" at the time of the Fifth and Madison conversions of 1966: buses assigned to that route stored at 146th Street that had outdated side roll signs (namely 1964 order 5303's beginning with 5201 and 1965 batwings beginning with 6701) which indicated '2 - Madison Ave via 116 St' and '2 - 5th & 7th Avenues', as opposed to the 1967 A/C batwings (of which 146 St. got the last of the batch up to 8780) that correctly noted '2 - 5th & Madison via Lenox' and '2A - 5th & Madison via Seventh Ave' respectively. Older buses therefore had cases where ex-FACCo 2(A)'s going uptown sported '2 - Madison Ave via 116 St' on the sides, and conversely southbound ex-NYCO 2's sides reading '2 - 5th & 7th Avenues'.

But I also have to wonder if, at the very start of the 101A 3rd/Lexington/Lenox, it was at least temporarily assigned out of 'OFS' before being transferred to the 100th Street depot. I ask because of this link which showed a c.1969 picture of a 1967 A/C batwing on route 101A (as seen on the front rollsign) about to be towed away from City Hall by a MaBSTOA truck - but its side reading '2 - 5th & Madison via Lenox'.


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