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Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 24 20:06:58 2016        
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Sep 24 20:32:11 2016, in response to Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 24 20:06:58 2016. Cool |
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Posted by SI 93 on Sun Sep 25 07:58:43 2016, in response to Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 24 20:06:58 2016. Now lets hope that some Bx41 SBS can be extended to LaGuardia Airport around this time next year. |
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Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 18:47:21 2016, in response to Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 24 20:06:58 2016. |
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Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by northshore on Sun Sep 25 18:51:12 2016, in response to Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 18:47:21 2016. Amazing! |
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Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Sep 25 20:15:14 2016, in response to Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 18:47:21 2016. Finally, a route destination sign that isn't boring.Bill Newkirk |
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Re: [Video (Updated link)] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 20:47:10 2016, in response to Re: [Video] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 18:47:21 2016. |
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Re: [Video (Updated link)] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Sep 25 22:30:51 2016, in response to Re: [Video (Updated link)] Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Sep 25 20:47:10 2016. Awesome |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 26 15:16:34 2016, in response to Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 24 20:06:58 2016. Is it SBS yet? If so, when did it start?I ask since I first saw SBS painted buses on September 5th, but it was still a limited then. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Sep 26 15:28:44 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 26 15:16:34 2016. It started yesterday. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:33:25 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 26 15:16:34 2016. LOL! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:19:19 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Union Tpke on Mon Sep 26 15:28:44 2016. Thanks.Okay, so for at least 20 days they were confusing people by using an SBS sign on the bus when you couldn't pre pay. I understand if it took time to wrap the buses, but the signs on the bus shoukd not have said SBS until the first day of operation. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:24:00 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:19:19 2016. LOL! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:23:30 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:24:00 2016. Why is that funny? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 16:41:38 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 16:23:30 2016. Because I doubt many, if any, were confused. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:25:00 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 16:41:38 2016. And how would you know that?Anyone who knows that you must prepay for SBS would be confused. When you see an SBS bus coming you look for the machines but they said M60 only. I even asked the driver if he still was a limited. He said yes although the bus said SBS. How could you even think that would not be confusing? You would only not be confused if you had no idea what SBS was and you treated it like a normal bus. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:29:04 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:25:00 2016. So you want the wraps put on the night before? Great idea! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 19:40:04 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Union Tpke on Tue Sep 27 17:29:04 2016. That's not what I said. I said I can understand that it takes some time to put up the wraps.I objected to the blue "roll" sign stating SBS. I am sure there were other designations on the digital sign. If the MTA removed the limited designation when they added the SBS designation, that was wrong because it did not allow a transition phase which was obviously needed. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:13 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 17:25:00 2016. It's obvious and logical. Q70 riders are either:1. Regulars. So they know you pay onboard. They will continue to pay onboard until they are forced to do otherwise. A simple sign on the front of the bus means diddly squat to them as long as there's a farebox and a bus driver presiding over it. They're not confused. 2. Visitors. So they have no idea what SBS is and they don't care. So they're not confused. 3. People like you. People living out on the fringes of society. People who are paranoid yet ambivalent. People who would try to pay off board even when there are no machines and then, having still not gotten the message, would gonsonfar as to ask the bus driver if the bus was something other than what it obviously is. WTF man? So a few of you like this are confused. The vast majority of people are instead totally fine. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:40:20 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:13 2016. No I did not try to pay off board, since the sign said M60 on the machine, I assumed SBS did not start yet, but asked the driver anyway to be sure. But there was a chance the decals were not yet changed or perhaps there were other machines further away. There are many SBS stops where the machines are not near the front of the bus stop. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:41:05 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:13 2016. Conflicting signage is never logical. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:44:23 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:41:05 2016. I already addressed this in my post. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:45:31 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:40:20 2016. No I did not try to pay off boardYes you did. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 11:10:58 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:02:13 2016. 4. People like me. I'm not a regular. I use the Q70 about once per year. But I do know about SBS, because I live in NYC; but don't happen to know whether the Q70 is an SBS line or not.I would be somewhat annoyed if I ended up in a situation where I either bought an SBS ticket and then was told by the bus driver that it was invalid or didn't buy an SBS ticket and was told by the bus driver I could get a summons if I boarded the bus. From the description given of the Q70 situation, I can't tell whether I might end up in either of those categories. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link- Alternate route needed to Brooklyn or Q70 SBS extended to Brooklyn |
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Posted by nyctransitman on Wed Sep 28 11:59:24 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:44:23 2016. I would have the Q70 SBS only serve the 74th Street/Roosevelt Avenue Subway Station and ask the MTA to create a new SBS route that could instead serve the Woodside LIRR Station along with limited stops along Roosevelt Avenue between 69th Street and 48th Street or between 74th Street and 48th Street than limited stops via B24 routing to Williamsburg Bridge Plaza than limited stops via B67 routing to Downtown, Brooklyn. The Q70SBS could also be extended to Downtown, Brooklyn via the same routing if it wouldn't compromise reliability. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link- Alternate route needed to Brooklyn or Q70 SBS extended to Brooklyn |
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Posted by northshore on Wed Sep 28 13:16:57 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link- Alternate route needed to Brooklyn or Q70 SBS extended to Brooklyn, posted by nyctransitman on Wed Sep 28 11:59:24 2016. It could also be extended from Downtown Brooklyn over the Verrazzno then over the Goethals to Newark Liberty Airport, providing a direct connection from LGA to NWK |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link- Alternate route needed to Brooklyn or Q70 SBS extended to Brooklyn |
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Posted by nyctransitman on Wed Sep 28 13:39:37 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link- Alternate route needed to Brooklyn or Q70 SBS extended to Brooklyn, posted by northshore on Wed Sep 28 13:16:57 2016. Don't forget a limited few stops in Bay Ridge. LOL |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:51:51 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:45:31 2016. You were there and saw me? IDIOT!!! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:54:15 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 11:10:58 2016. But don't try disagreeing with Terrapin because he knows everything. LOL. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:21:22 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:51:51 2016. No, I read your post, idiot. You asked the driver in case SBS was already in service. If he had said yes, you would have gone and paid off-board. So by asking, you were taking a step toward paying off-board. To not have attempted to pay off-board, you wouldn't have asked the driver if SBS was implemented (i.e. if it was still a limited and not an SBS). Idiot. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:26:23 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:54:15 2016. Your words, not mine. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:28:09 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 11:10:58 2016. You wouldn't.If the Q70 was SBS, the signage by the machines would probably make that clear. So you'd know whether you needed to buy a ticket or not. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:10:25 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 11:10:58 2016. Simple enough.You ask the bus operator. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:14:15 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:40:20 2016. 😀workin on that list...think about his bullshit..and the reason why he singles out certain posters. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 06:46:39 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:14:15 2016. Can't wait to see it. Should be good for some laughs at 2 Broadway. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 07:04:55 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:10:25 2016. Yeah and he be like 'shup yo. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:10:25 2016. Huh?Scenario 1. I buy an SBS ticket that was really only for the M60 and the driver says hey buddy, you gotta pay your fare. So I have to pay again. Scenario 2. I don't buy an SBS ticket. I get on the bus and there's no place to pay. I ask the driver and he says you had to get an SBS ticket before you boarded. So I get off to buy an SBS ticket (since I don't want to get a summons) and while I'm buying it the bus drives off. I have to wait for the next bus. TS's explanation that the signs at the stop will be clear makes those scenarios unlikely, but asking the driver certainly is never a good answer when it comes to SBS. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 29 10:25:24 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016. Huh?IAWTP |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:40:09 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016. Which is why having the bus saying SBS 25 days in advance is confusing. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:41:59 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Thu Sep 29 00:14:15 2016. His bullshit- right. Like everyone who reads a post makes a reply when probably as much as 90 percent read a post and do not reply. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 29 11:56:55 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016. Scenario #1 makes no sense because the driver has nothing to do with fares and does not check fare receipts. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 12:45:37 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 29 11:56:55 2016. In scenario 1, SBS is not yet implemented and yet I have gone and bought an SBS ticket because I misunderstood. So yes, the driver does monitor fare collection. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 17:19:41 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 29 11:41:59 2016. You're a liar. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 29 21:49:19 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 12:45:37 2016. Agreed. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 30 08:13:43 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016. ::crickets:: |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 30 15:56:18 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 10:14:34 2016. And thats why its a problem for You.Keep it simple...not hypothetical scenarios of what could be. Ask the operator. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 16:29:23 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 30 15:56:18 2016. BrooklynBus was claiming Scenario 1 was currently in effect, to be followed in a few weeks by scenario 2. I was responding to that. In either case, asking the operator would not have been productive. |
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Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 30 17:47:58 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 30 16:29:23 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 30 17:48:09 2016, in response to Re: Q70SBS LaGuardia Link, posted by Edwards! on Fri Sep 30 15:56:18 2016. Nope. Wrong. |
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