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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:53:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blv, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:50:06 2016.

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Yes anyone older than you is "old". Do you know that 20 year olds think you are "old"? Age is all relative, but you are just too dumb to realize that. I was referred to as a "young man" in a nursing home. I bet some of them have more sense than you do.
Completely irrelevant to what I said. But thanks for wasting your time.

Not everyone who you think is old is senile and confused. Maybe you know more about the Internet than those in a nursing home, but I bet there are many subjects they know a hell of a lot more than you do. You need to respect your elders, not berate them. One of the many things you were never taught.
Wow, you're clueless.

Maybe you know more about the Internet than those in a nursing home
That's the whole point!!!!!!!! So we agree!!!!

So according to you, every one who reads something on the Internet, responds.
No, I made it 100% clear that that's not what I think. You're hopeless.

You are in your own dream world. I ALREADY PROVED TO YOU THAT ON A SITE THAT COUNTS VIEWS, over 100 people read a post and NONE responded. Are you saying their statistics are inanacurate? YOU WOULD NEED CONCRETE PROOF TO ASSERT THAT.
See previous response.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:54:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:52:13 2016.

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We said nothing about crosswalks. We talked about streets though.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:55:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:54:27 2016.

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We are talking about the general condition, not this specific incident!

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:56:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:56:49 2016.

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You would continue driving at the same speed although a pedestrian is crossing in front of you.
Why would I do that? Who told you I would do that? Are you posting MORE lies about me???

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:57:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:59:57 2016.

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Stephen said there was no difference between crossing within and outside the crosswalk? BULLS**T. He never said anything of the sort.
I didn't say he did. Reading comprehension fails you.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:44:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:01 2016.

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Prove what? I cited the statute, so it is readily available for you to read.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:46:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 09:36:07 2016.

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Thanks for proving me right and saving BrooklynBus the effort of having to read the whole statute himself.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:48:03 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:10:21 2016.

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Are you illiterate? Did you even bother to read what he posted?

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:48:29 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:47:59 2016.

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Thank you for actually reading.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:49:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 09:23:56 2016.

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Again, I don't care what the manual says. The VTL says it's legal.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:50:46 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 09:19:42 2016.

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Many city intersections have that too. Every driver approaching an intersection should be fully aware of how many turn lanes there are if they are turning.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:52:41 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 09:32:24 2016.

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Exactly. All of those things* are required by statute. BrooklynBus's method of turning is not.

*Except for "drive aggressively." I'm not going to accept any of BrooklynBus's claims on what that is and which statute it would violate.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:53:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:06:39 2016.

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I have not read all of the posts in this thread, but I am 100% certain he said no such thing.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:55:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:44:24 2016.

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Smit obviously makes no mention of wide right turns. And according to Stephen Bauman's citation, it is also illegal.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:58:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:46:26 2016.

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What are you talking about? He just proved you wrong. It says nothing about wide right turns. It says you shoukd turn into the rightmost lane which is what I did. You said I should have turned into the adjacent lane.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:59:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:50:37 2016.

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IAWTP. I will also add that he never addressed my comment about "adequate clearance." A car you are pulling in front of who accelerates will be no danger if you change lanes in front of him with ADEQUATE CLEARANCE. I will also add warning (turn signal).

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:01:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:48:03 2016.

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I read I quite rightly.


(a) Right turns. Both the approach for a right turn and a right turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway or, where travel on the shoulder or slope has been authorized, from the shoulder or slope.

That is exactly what I did. It is telling you NOT TO MAKE A WIDE RIGHT TURN as you stated to give someone else behind you the opportunity to also make a right turn on your right.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:01:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 27 23:13:35 2016.

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I disagree with that.

However if BrooklynBus weren't obsessed with following made-up laws, he could turn into the left lane and give room to another person to enter the intersection. Of course, he's not required to. But unless he needs that right lane for some other reason, it's just common courtesy.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:02:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:49:23 2016.

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No it doesn't. It tells you to make a right turn into the rightmost lane, just as the Drivers Manual states.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:03:10 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:55:52 2016.

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Read his post again.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:05:35 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:53:47 2016.

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Believe what you want.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:07:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:58:06 2016.

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LOL! You are illiterate!

It says nothing about turning INTO lanes at all! The word "into" or any synonym does not appear anywhere.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:10:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:59:27 2016.

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Adequate clearance assumes both drivers are going at a constant speed. You have no control over someone else's actions and if the other car decided to step on the accelerator a fraction of a second before you got in front of him, what might have looked like adequate clearance to you may not be so adequate and you may cause him to have to hit his brake to avoid a collision. That is not good driving practice.

Turn in your license now!!! You shoukd never be driving faster than everyone else on the road if in order to do so you have to be constantly switching lanes.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:11:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:01:52 2016.

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It is not recmmended according to the drivers manual and vehicular code.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:14:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:03:10 2016.

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I did.

Here it is:

and method of turning at intersections. The driver of a vehicle intending to turn at an intersection shall do so as follows:

(a) Right turns. Both the approach for a right turn and a right turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway or, where travel on the shoulder or slope has been authorized, from the shoulder or slope.

Where does it say you should make a right turn not into the rightmost lane so another car can also make a right turn into the lane on your right?

It says the exact opposite that you shoukd turn into the rightmost lane.

You are reading what you want to read, not what is printed.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:16:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:17:09 2016.

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I am not changing my story as to what happened? Why do you keep lying?
Yes you are. No I'm not.



Yes I may originally have stated it was five feet. Then others corrected me and said it was 25 feet. So if I now agree with them, I AM WRONG FOR DOING THAT. If I continue to insist it is five feet, I AM STILL WRONG FOR NOT LISTENING TO WHAT "EVERYONE ELSE" is telling me. As I previously stated, ACCORDNG TO YOU, ANYTHING I SAY OR DO IS WRONG AND THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHERE IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ME TO BE RIGHT.
Wrong. You didn't "may have" originally stated it was 5 feet. You DID state that it was five feet. So are you now admitting you were 100% wrong here:
Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd (318330)? Are you now admitting that I was 100% right in my responses to that post? I don't know who ever said 25 feet or in which post it happened, but I don't recall you ever saying that you were wrong with the 5 feet and I was right for correcting you.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:16:50 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:02:53 2016.

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Can't what? Haha.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:17:16 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:03:32 2016.

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No it's not. It's true and completely relevant to the post I was replying to.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:17:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:10:25 2016.

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That is not true. Many drivers keep excessive distance.

Your scenario would not be possible with adequate clearance and warning as the driver would see your turn signal and movement, and there would be plenty of time to compensate if not. By your logic, all lane changes are dangerous.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:18:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:06:39 2016.

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But it was red before it was green.
So? When have we ever discussed the red time?

You stated when I reached the intersection, I should not have waited for any reason.
I never said anything of the sort you liar.

So I asked you if you meant I should have gone through the red light.
You asked because you lack reading comprehension and/or are a liar.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:18:54 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:05:35 2016.

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No, he'll know the truth.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 14:18:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:07:05 2016.

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The word "into" or any synonym does not appear anywhere.

Heh. I missed that too. I inferred the word "into" but it's simply not there.





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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:19:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:53:47 2016.

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Thank you.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:19:18 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 10:07:07 2016.

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See, you can't even.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:20:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:11:38 2016.

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The drivers manual is not authoritative. The statute recommends nothing other than what it orders. Namely to only make a right turn from the right lane, or any lane where an appropriate sign or marking permits.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:21:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:48:29 2016.

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You're welcome.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:21:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:14:38 2016.

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It says nothing about what you SHOULD do. It says you MUST turn FROM the right lane. It says nothing about which lane to turn into.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:22:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:01:21 2016.

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No, that's not what it says.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:22:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:47:59 2016.

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bump

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:23:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:17:22 2016.

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pwn3d

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:25:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 13:59:27 2016.

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Also add "adequate performance of your vehicle", even though that's often a pre-req for adequate clearance, so you sort of already have it covered. Another pre-req would be "willingness to use your vehicle's performance adequately".

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:25:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:51:14 2016.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:30:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:21:42 2016.

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And it also says "as close as practicable" instead of "in the right-most".

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:30:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 13:55:52 2016.

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wrong

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:31:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 14:18:57 2016.

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I sort of did too, because of the second phrase: and a right turn.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:32:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 28 14:02:22 2016.

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No it doesn't.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:34:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 14:01:52 2016.

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Why? If you're in the right lane, the next lane to the left is the right-most practical place for the next guy to turn.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 28 15:37:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 10:47:59 2016.

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it is sometimes practical

The word in the statute is practicable.

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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by fdtutf on Wed Sep 28 15:50:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:25:02 2016.

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It's because you don't want to know.

Is that the same reason why you refuse to learn how to make links in your posts?


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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 16:08:03 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 28 14:30:08 2016.

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But the latter is a necessary consequence of the former.

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