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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:12:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Sep 11 14:05:11 2016. Cross Bay is a major artery not a local street. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:14:13 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 5 05:59:50 2016. Correct. That's why the signage is poor and could lead o last minute decisions causing an accident. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:14:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Sep 11 17:07:43 2016. Totally relevant and true. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Sep 13 15:15:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:09:59 2016. The existing conditions are the current plan in place. Just because you do not understand that the word plan has multiple definitions does not mean I am using the specific use you were interpreting it as being.And it is the pinnacle of irony that you would tell anybody at all that they can't write. Mind you, you tell other people that they don't understand planning, so perhaps I should not be surprised. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:15:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by merrick1 on Sun Sep 11 15:12:50 2016. I took a needed break from all this nonsense here. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Sep 13 15:18:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:15:58 2016. Then stop making nonsense if you need a break from nonsense. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:19:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:48:47 2016. Those who forget history are condemned to make the same mistakes in the future. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:25:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Wed Aug 17 22:51:35 2016. You can't call them NMBY's. NIMBY's oppose everything. This community has clearly asked for changes to the plan that they believe would make it better. They also believe the process was not fair which they are correct about. If they were NIMBY, they wou,d propose any change, and not make alternative suggestions. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Sep 13 18:23:29 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 14:58:40 2016. Drag yourself back to the post i made that highlighted 3 of your posts about signs and gps. Then read your half assed reply trying to saving yourself.http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=317938 One post your gps knows where you are, next post it don't. Another post we need better road signs, next post take them down. Any when put side by side, they point in different directions, and you battled everybody on what they said about signs and gps. |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 13 19:03:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:19:19 2016. Would that you could apply that very sound lesson to yourself. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 13 20:58:45 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:15:58 2016. I dont believe that correcting a street name, or having different opinions of an exit sign are considered nonsense. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Tue Sep 13 22:13:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 13 20:58:45 2016. Correct.The "nonsense" he refers to is everybody here not in agreement with him. Over on the other board, his ideas are met without challenges. He looks like a genius, his ego gets stroked, and feels superior. The classic waiting for a "pat on the back" while hearing the words "that a boy", but he don't get that here. I think that falls under the term "Narcissism". |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:45:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 13 15:15:19 2016. Great post. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:47:37 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:09:59 2016. Wrong. Winter weather Plan 4 at NYCT doesn't have to be proposed, or even in the future. It can and has been the existing, current plan during winter weather. You are wrong, as we've been telling you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:49:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:14:58 2016. Nope. Irrelevant. Think again. I've told you several times why in the past few weeks. It's not my fault you have no memory and/or reading comprehension. LOL!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:56:55 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 13 15:18:08 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:58:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Tue Sep 13 22:13:08 2016. Great post. I just brought up this same issue in the new R-179 thread. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:59:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:15:58 2016. If by nonsense you mean the bullsh;t you peddle, then yes, we appreciate the reprieve you gave us. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:00:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:19:19 2016. I would say that about you, except it seems you never knew the stuff in the first place so you can't then forget it! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:01:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:25:07 2016. The process is quite often unfair in the minds of many people who disagree. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 13 23:50:36 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:47:37 2016. The winter weather plans remain the same each year. The only minor differences are possibly a line modification (hypothetically the B becomes a V prior to the plan.) or scheduled service end times. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:59:34 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 13 23:50:36 2016. It doesn't matter if it is the same or if it changes. It's a plan that that is current when it is actively being implemented. It's even current when it is only scheduled but not yer implemented. It's also current when it hasn't even yet been scheduled but it's the winter storm season. BrooklynBus is so very wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 14 07:56:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Sep 11 12:31:17 2016. Your post is still as irrelevant today as it was the day you made it. Congrats. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 14 10:14:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:12:05 2016. Now you're moving the goalposts. It's a surface street, not limited access. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Sep 14 12:47:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:59:34 2016. That's right. The plan is in place, it's a matter of whether to implement it or not for the day. This way, if they do call a plan 4, the winter supplemental schedules can go into effect by the afternoon and NYCT can prepare for the snowbird layups. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Sep 14 15:46:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 14 10:14:19 2016. Cross Bay is an arterial street. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 14 16:44:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 14 10:14:19 2016. An arterial does not have to be limited access. It can be restricted access or unlimited access like Ocean Parkway. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 14 17:49:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Sep 14 16:44:48 2016. An arterial does not have to be limited access. It can be restricted access or unlimited access like Ocean Parkway.Or like Baltic Avenue. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 14 22:14:25 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 14 17:49:00 2016. pwn3d |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 15 00:04:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 14 22:14:25 2016. +$200 |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 15 09:46:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 15 00:04:52 2016. Now I just need to pwn Mediterranean and I can start building hotels. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians done |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:02:56 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 13 15:15:19 2016. You are the one who cannot tell the difference between "existing conditions" and the word "plan". The former (do I have to define that one also) refers to the present while the word "plan" refers to the future.Not not do you not undress and planning, you do t even have a good grasp of the Englush language. Yes it's quite ironic that someone who only publushes on blogs tells someone who is frequently published in newspapers including the New York Times and had a long running regular internet column that he can't write or doesn't understand English. |
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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:08:24 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:47:37 2016. You are not disagreeing with what I stated. I stated existing conditions refer to the present and a plan refers to the future.There is little difference between a Winter Weather Plan and the Woodhaven Plan. Both exist in the present but take effect in the future. The only difference is that Woodhaven will take effect one time unless it is done in stages while a storm plan is recurrent taking place on more than one occasion. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:09:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:49:12 2016. Another useless comment which says nothing other than I am right and you are wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:10:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 14 07:56:05 2016. More useless posts by you that state I am right and you are wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:14:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Tue Sep 13 18:23:29 2016. Okay let me summarize so I am clear.People have been stating that signs are not necessary (except for temporary road work signage) since so many have GPS now. I stated that signage is necessary primarily for tourists who do t have GPS. That regular road users don't need signage at all. But GPS is not perfect. It can and sometimes makes errors which is why you still need signage that needs to be as clear as possible. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:15:23 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:00:36 2016. Your usual crap. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:16:51 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 13 19:03:08 2016. I certainly do apply it to myself. You seem to believe if it happened a long time ago, it is no longer relevant which is why I made to comment. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:18:55 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Sep 13 20:58:45 2016. That wasn't my point. I was talking about those you automatically disagree when they see I made a post because they believe it is their mission in life to always prove me wrong. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Sep 15 15:21:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians done, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:02:56 2016. "You are the one who cannot tell the difference between "existing conditions" and the word "plan". The former (do I have to define that one also) refers to the present while the word "plan" refers to the future."As myself and others have pointed out, plan certainly can refer to the existing conditions. Your repeated claims to the contrary does not make the contrary true. "Not not do you not undress and planning, you do t even have a good grasp of the Englush language." I do not claim to have any grasp whatsoever of the "Englush language". "Yes it's quite ironic that someone who only publushes on blogs tells someone who is frequently published in newspapers including the New York Times and had a long running regular internet column that he can't write or doesn't understand English." I publush? I didn't know that I did! That said, having opinions and letters to the editor posted on websites does not indicate any grasp of reading comprehension. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Sep 15 15:22:45 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:18:55 2016. If you do not like people pointing out that you are incorrect, you should stop being almost universally incorrect. You have the power to change that more than anybody else does. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:27:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Cornell Park on Tue Sep 13 22:13:08 2016. Not really. I do not mind legitimate disagreement which I often get on the other board.Here most times the disagreement is not legitimate. From Terrapin it is usually I am right and you are wrong with no further explanation and if you ask for one, the response is I already explained it to you but you are too dumb to understand. I get a few pats on the back over there but no that many and that is not even what I am looking for. I would like a legitimate exchange of ideas which I rarely get here. Case in point: I posted by critique of the B44 SBS progress report and I get 200 responses criticizing me but not one discussing any of the points I made. I get responses like why shoukd we read anything you write, etc. Finally after 200 responses R 30 is the first one to agree to reading the report. But I soon gave up trying to have a discussion with him because he wouldn't stick to the issues but would just make unfounded accusations. If you want the definition of "narcissism" you don't have to look further than Terrapin. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:28:27 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 22:59:28 2016. No nonsense mainly from you. "I am right and you are wrong." |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:33:06 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians done, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:02:56 2016. Hmmm, let's see: wrong, wrong, wrong, aaaaaaand WRONG! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:35:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvdn medians, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:08:24 2016. You are not disagreeing with what I stated.Yes I am. I said you are wrong. That means I disagree. I stated existing conditions refer to the present and a plan refers to the future.I know what you said. There is little difference between a Winter Weather Plan and the Woodhaven Plan. Both exist in the present but take effect in the future. The only difference is that Woodhaven will take effect one time unless it is done in stages while a storm plan is recurrent taking place on more than one occasion.WRONG! Once again, this time with feeling: Winter weather Plan 4 at NYCT doesn't have to be proposed, or even in the future. It can and has been the existing, current plan during winter weather. You are wrong, as we've been telling you. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:35:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:09:31 2016. Wrong. It's an awesome comment which completely tells the story. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:36:04 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 13 15:14:58 2016. bumpNope. Irrelevant. Think again. I've told you several times why in the past few weeks. It's not my fault you have no memory and/or reading comprehension. LOL!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:36:30 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:10:05 2016. Nope. Your post is still as irrelevant today as it was the day you made it. Congrats. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:38:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:01:53 2016. True, but sometimes their belief of unfairness has merit as is the case here.DOT comes to the community stating they want to make bus travel faster on Woodhaven as well as to make the street safer. NOT ONCE DID THEY ASK THE COMMUNITY HOW THEY WOULD WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. Instead DOT took the attitude that they are the experts who know everything while those who use the street everyday know nothing. They state at the first meeting that they have already decided that SBS is the solution. When the community asks what if we do not want SBS, the response is that you are getting it anyway. So the community then wants to know the purpose of the meetings. The response is that they want the community to help design SBS. Then DOT develops three alternatives. The community chooses alternative 1 with service road SBS lanes. DOT picks Alternative 2. Then makes a few concessions after widespread protest to show the process was "democratic" which was far from the case. A fair process would have SBS as one of the options and after discussions, then DOT would decide if that would be the solution that would go forward. That scenario never occurred. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Sep 15 15:39:05 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Sep 15 15:14:43 2016. People have been stating that signs are not necessary (except for temporary road work signage) since so many have GPS now.No, that's wrong. Intelligent people here have not been saying that. Or at least they shouldn't be. I stated that signage is necessary primarily for tourists who do t have GPS. That regular road users don't need signage at all.You may have said that, but what you said is wrong. But GPS is not perfect. It can and sometimes makes errors which is why you still need signage that needs to be as clear as possible.LOL, you just contradicted yourself! |
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