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Re: Dictatorship not Democracy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 15:16:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:44:40 2016. No it's not. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 15:18:00 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 15:12:51 2016. Owned. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 15:18:46 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:52:56 2016. Wrong. See Spider-Pig's post. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jul 1 15:37:32 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:55:25 2016. "He was trying to put a cost of traffic by adding up the incomes of everybody stuck in traffic. His point is that a car owner probably has a higher income."You seem to be his spokesperson so well, its like you are him. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 15:39:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 15:09:47 2016. He's just going to claim that he didn't make that argument, that he said that someone could have made that argument, or some kind of weaselly bullshit.If you read down the Sheepsheadbites comments, he did just that. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jul 1 15:46:15 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 14:55:25 2016. "He was trying to put a cost of traffic by adding up the incomes of everybody stuck in traffic. His point is that a car owner probably has a higher income."You seem to be his spokesperson so well, its like you are him. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 1 15:46:19 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:56:04 2016. And even your so called explaination is bullshit. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 16:15:48 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 15:18:00 2016. He's right. Appealing to as an authority is a fallacy. Glad you owned the statement and agree with me. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 16:17:13 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jul 1 15:37:32 2016. Using that logic, R30 is Cryin' Brian's spokesperson. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 16:41:16 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 1 15:46:19 2016. OWNEDExactly. He doesn't understand that words matter. He thinks that writing anything explains and excuses his behavior. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 17:17:46 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:17:26 2016. I don't believe that you speak for many people. There's no proof. You probably have imaginary friends who always agree with you. LOL. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 17:55:56 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 1 15:46:19 2016. Nope. It's 100% sound logic. If you REALLY think it's bullshit then explain why exactly. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 17:56:10 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 16:41:16 2016. Nope. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 18:23:01 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 17:17:46 2016. You can believe whatever you want. That's already what you do with BrooklynBus and he hardly ever gives proff (and even when he does, he usually misuses it). But it doesn't mean you are right. LOL! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 18:24:44 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 16:15:48 2016. No, I disagreed with you. So did he. You believe BrooklynBus only because you mistakenly believe he is an authority, but he's clearly not. So you're wrong. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 18:54:25 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 1 13:29:06 2016. And exactly how do we inconvenience pedestrians all over the place to accommodate motorists? Is it that we ask them to wait for a green signal to cross the street rather than allowing them to cross any tine they feel like it which they do anyway in many areas? (The numbers of pedestrians crossing on a red signal is many times the number of cars going through red signals.) |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 18:55:26 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 1 13:32:42 2016. Show me where I have backtracked other than obvious errors I corrected. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 18:58:40 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 13:32:46 2016. Nothing was disclaimed by the editor. I wrote the retraction and requested he use strikeout so as not to hide anything. All the editor did was print what I asked him to and apologize for the errors.Are you trying to indicate that no publication ever has to print retractions for errors? We did the responsible thing and yet you find criticism. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:04:55 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 13:37:48 2016. Have you done a survey asking how many believe aliens have visited this planet? The evidence is monumental and goes back thousands of years and you are trying to make it appear like it is lunacy. And there are many murders that occurred under suspicious circumstances and classified as suicides or natural causes. It is easy to dismiss everything as conspiracy theories and uncredible. Jackie Gleason stated he believed in UFOs as did many other respected people (including hundreds of police officers). So do you use those beliefs to disqualify their achievements? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 19:09:36 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 18:24:44 2016. The fallacy is you think you're an authority. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 19:14:07 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:47:57 2016. You sound like Trump who never asked for forgiveness because he had never done anything wrong.You always change the facts so you'll never be wrong. |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:17:20 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:03:24 2016. That does not say a driver's time is worth more than a bus rider's time.The point I was making was that DOT is only considering the value of a bus passenger's time and ignoring the time of car and truck drivers. There are many more car and truck drivers and passengers than there are bus passengers and they are losing more time than is gained by bus passengers. So when EVERYONE's tine is considered the total amount of minutes lost is greater than the total amount of minutes gained making SBS on Woodhaven a poor idea. I repeatedly stated everyone's time needs to be treated EQUALLY. Then I added IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE CASE, that a bus rider's time is worth more than the tine of someone in a passenger car, it WOULD BE POSSIBLE to make a counter argument that a driver's tine is worth more because their income's are higher. I never was making that argument. I SIMPLY WAS STATING THAT THAT ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE. You clearly are reconstruing what I stated by ignoring that it was a CONDITIONAL statement, and not something I was advocating. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:19:05 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:42:39 2016. And how exactly is the argument wrong? Are you saying that cars and trucks drivers and passengers do not far outnumber bus passengers? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:23:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 14:43:57 2016. That is not what I stated. I stated that an argument can be made that a driver's time is worth more than a bus rider's time. But I was not making that argument. The one I was making was that EVERYONE'S TIME NEEDS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY, rather than only considering the bus rider's' tine and ignoring everyone else's time. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:24:53 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:28:44 2016. #trollbait |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:25:42 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 1 15:09:47 2016. That is correct. And it's not weasly bullshit.It is a perfectly valid point. For the third time I was stating EVERYONE'S TIME NEEDS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY which is not what DOT is doing by ignoring the majority of Woodhaven's motor vehicle users. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:28:21 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:44:23 2016. Yes as you stated it isn't possible to increase capacity without increasing service AND YOU WERE PROVEN 100% WRONG ON THAT. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:33:38 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:28:21 2016. Why can't the Turtle understand a simple concept like increasing capacity without increasing service frequency? Artics carry more passengers than 40' buses. Why does he persist in making himself look foolish? How can be so stupid? |
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Posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 19:34:36 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 14:56:04 2016. Mail boy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:41:35 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 19:34:36 2016. Unemployed mail boy |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:48:14 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 19:09:36 2016. Nope. I specifically said my credentials are based on my posting history here. I also provide proff. |
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Re: Proof supplied but ignored |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:48:53 2016, in response to Re: Proof supplied but ignored, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 1 19:14:07 2016. Nope. And I never change facts. Facts can't change. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:51:00 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:24:53 2016. It's still a legitimate question. One you refuse to address since I showed you to be completely wrong. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:51:04 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:48:14 2016. But you never posted any professional qualifications or credentials that would suggest expertise to support your assertions. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:59:00 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:28:21 2016. No I wasn't. You changed to be only talking about individual bus capacity. We were telling about route capacity, which is a function of route service. You had said nothing about allowing a change in bus size until much later! And even then, in NYC, when the bus size is changed, route service is typically reduced so route capacity stays the same. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:00:03 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:33:38 2016. LOL! |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 20:02:13 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:19:05 2016. And how exactly is the argument wrong? Are you saying that cars and trucks drivers and passengers do not far outnumber bus passengers?It's all explained in great detail in the comments to the column. To summarize, the plan gives 33 percent of the roadway users (bus riders) 25 percent of the roadway space (a bus lane). Cars still win; it's just a marginally better balance. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:02:56 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 19:34:36 2016. What wrong with that?? You have something against blue collar workers? Why is it acceptable to use someone's job to make fun of them? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 20:03:35 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 19:34:36 2016. Mail boySubstantive argument. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:11:48 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:41:35 2016. :(I should just kill myself, right? I'm worthless. I mean if it's acceptable to make fun of someone due to their economic status or employment status, and if it's really true that people at the low end of those groups deserve the derision, then it means they are worthless, right? Why should I go on living and having to deal with this shit from you two? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 20:12:20 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by R30A on Fri Jul 1 11:55:59 2016. You are saying now that you never made the claim that it was my job to save the MTA $4 million a day.Here is the post where you said exactly that. http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=314841 I pointed out I saved $4 million and your response was SO YOU ACTUALLY DID YOUR JOB FOR ONE DAY after you previously stated I never accomplished anything in my entire career. In a later post you added that saving $4 million a day WASN't MY NLY RESPONSIBLITY as if such a ludicrous job responsibility is NOT ENOUGH RESPONSIBILITY. So I jokingly asked you if anyone even saves one million dollars a day. . Now you are backtracking stating you NEVER STATED IT WAS MY JOB TO SAVE $4 MILLION A DAY. YOU ARE COBSTANTLY CHANGING WHAT YOU ARE STATING AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:12:30 2016, in response to Re: Dictatorship not Democracy, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 1 19:51:04 2016. I don't need to add my assertions are supported in other ways. |
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Re: Voice of Authority? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 20:16:21 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:11:48 2016. I should just kill myself, right? I'm worthless. I mean if it's acceptable to make fun of someone due to their economic status or employment status, and if it's really true that people at the low end of those groups deserve the derision, then it means they are worthless, right? Why should I go on living and having to deal with this shit from you two?No, you're OK. You drive. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 20:17:22 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:11:48 2016. No one wants you to kill yourself.But don't pretend you have all the qualifications in the world while making it seem like someone who actually does have qualifications is worthless by taking every single opportunity to disparage his reputation. The reason people treat you like they do here is because of how you treat them. Surprised you never learned that you should treat people like you want to be treated. If you actually tried that and stopped insulting people, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY FIND PEOPLE WILL BE NICE TO YOU. It is never too late to turn over a new leaf. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:18:08 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 20:16:21 2016. Oh right. Now I can enjoy my shabbos. Wait, no driving. Only walking. Uh oh. Back to the edge I go... |
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Posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 20:18:28 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:02:56 2016. Nope |
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Re: Waiting for proof |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 20:29:32 2016, in response to Re: Waiting for proof, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jul 1 20:02:13 2016. That is a great oversimplification of what is occurring. That is not the way to plan.Cars do not win when their travel time is slowed by 38 percent. Bus rider's do not win when their travel time is also slowed which is exactly what has happened with the exclusive bus lanes in effect during the AM peak between Furmanville and Metropolitan Avenue. Rather than trying to determine what went wrong and spending the next year trying to change those numbers BEFORE EXPANDING THE PROGRAM OF EXCLUSIVE LANES, DOT is moving ahead anyway. As further proof of DOT's incompetence, they look at Google Maps and propose without any volumes regarding turning data, they propose banning 26 left turn movements. After outcry from the community, THEN they go and collect data, and determine that 20 OUT OF THOSE 26 BANS SHOULD NOT BE MADE AFTER ALL. That is ass backwards planning. FIRST YOU COLLECT THE DATA AND THEN YOU MAKE THE PROPOSAL, not vice versa as DOT has done. DOT has consistently stated that SBS works elsewhere so it has to work on Woodhaven. That type of simplistic planning along with your simplistic statement is why this plan is doomed to failure. |
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Posted by gOld_12th on Fri Jul 1 20:32:53 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 19:41:35 2016. Immature unemployed mail boy |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 20:35:07 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 19:59:00 2016. You stated route capacity is a function of route service and it is not possible to increase route capacity without increasing route service. I showed you why that is an incorrect statement because you CAN increase route capacity without increasing service by using bigger buses which you neglected to consider.The fact that the MTA typically reduces service when they switch to bigger buses is irrelevent to the discussion. YOU MADE AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. But at least you are not changing what you said. At least you are being consistent, unlike R30A, and I give you credit for that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 1 20:36:25 2016, in response to Re: Voice of Authority?, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 1 20:00:03 2016. What are you laughing about? That he is calling you stupid? |
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