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Why is the S79 considered a Select bus route?

Posted by gbs on Wed Jun 29 02:11:23 2016

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From the rider's perspective the most significant feature of Select Bus Service, and the one they must pay attention to, is the on-street fare collection prior to boarding, and the boarding through any door. The dedicated bus lanes and other feature may be important but the riders don't have to notice them or take them into account, but they can't ignore the fare collection system.

So you could argue that without on-street fare collection it ain't SBS, even if all the other elements are in place. That's why I was very surprised to see that the S79 SBS has standard pay-upon-boarding fare collection. To me the S79 should be labeled Limited, not Select. (On the mta.info website the S79 is listed in the local bus category.)

Forgive me if this was discussed before, perhaps when it was first implemented. I noticed it only the other day when I used it for the first time.


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Re: Why is the S79 considered a Select bus route?

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 29 09:11:35 2016, in response to Why is the S79 considered a Select bus route?, posted by gbs on Wed Jun 29 02:11:23 2016.

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Yes, discussed here before.

Here are the hidden reasons that have been argued, and I agree with most:

-So Staten Island can't complain about being the only borough without SBS

-So federal funds for so-called SBS can be collected by MTA

-Because the vast majority of the S79 only runs in areas where there is also local service (even if differing routes) so the MTA does not need to add service and no neighborhoods are being left out in the cold, at least in MTA's mind.

-So motorists can be "punished" for being motorists and restricted in road space on Hylan, and also ticketed for using the bus lanes (this is probably the most debatable)

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Re: Why is the S79 considered a Select bus route?

Posted by vfrt on Wed Jun 29 12:39:32 2016, in response to Re: Why is the S79 considered a Select bus route?, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Jun 29 09:11:35 2016.

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SI elected officials (in both parties)fought the original absurd plan to redesign Hylan Blvd for the sbs service.

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